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      Yesterday, 10:49 AM   #45
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I came to my 6MT '24 having driven manual cars for 30+ years. I wanted to love the car, but was just conflicted about this transmission. The 1-2 shift was rubbish, 2-3 was somewhat better and the rest was great. I've never had anything like it. I found myself either short shifting or winding it out to 4000 and then hesitating to get a smooth shift, but I couldn't drive it around town like I wanted to. 100 miles after break-in, I got fed up and took it for a nice long drive back to the dealership and traded for a BSM '25 with an automatic. I did lose a few dollars on the deal, but it was worth it. In my opinion, this car is way more suited to the automatic. It feels like a completely different car.

I really liked how I could take off from a stop slowly without touching the gas at all. I didn't get any lurching or chattering. Very useful in traffic and pulling in the garage. And the shift assist is a great feature, love the buttery smooth downshifts.
The manual is almost impossible to stall. I ALMOST stalled it being absent-minded in a parking lot where I had the car in 1st, parked, and then forgot to actually turn off the car before letting off the clutch. I got like 95% the way off the clutch and the car lurched and sounded like it was going to stall but as soon as I pressed the clutch in, it kept running. Totally my fault but I was impressed it didn't just stall out completely.
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I've had zero of those issues in my '23. Granted, I've had 9 manual BMW Ms over the past 30 years. I actually think this is one of the best. I'd love a little more low end torque, but that's easily cured with a tune. It's a high horsepower car, not a Honda Civic, so it needs a transmission that can handle the power.

OP, take it to your dealer and ask if they can find anything wrong.
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The 1-2 shift was rubbish, 2-3 was somewhat better and the rest was great. I've never had anything like it. I found myself either short shifting or winding it out to 4000 and then hesitating to get a smooth shift, but I couldn't drive it around town like I wanted to.
Sounds like a whole lot of operator error to me.

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I've had zero of those issues in my '23. Granted, I've had 9 manual BMW Ms over the past 30 years. I actually think this is one of the best. I'd love a little more low end torque, but that's easily cured with a tune. It's a high horsepower car, not a Honda Civic, so it needs a transmission that can handle the power.

OP, take it to your dealer and ask if they can find anything wrong.
There’s nothing wrong, it’s just me being new at driving a manual lol.

I’ve made a concerted effort to try and fix how I’m finessing the clutch and I’ve gotten way better since I posted this. I was getting chatter and bogging taking off because I wasn’t slow enough off the clutch. I still try and give it some gas taking off now but if I wanted to I can get it to take off without gas and basically no chatter.

The 1-2 shift issue I’ve seemed to resolve by pausing briefly at the bite point and just getting better at finding the bite point to begin with. I think a lot of the jerky shifts I was getting was me just underestimating how much the clutch pedal needs to travel before getting to that point. The bite point is high on this car; much higher than the car I practiced with initially.
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I've had zero of those issues in my '23. Granted, I've had 9 manual BMW Ms over the past 30 years. I actually think this is one of the best. I'd love a little more low end torque, but that's easily cured with a tune. It's a high horsepower car, not a Honda Civic, so it needs a transmission that can handle the power.

OP, take it to your dealer and ask if they can find anything wrong.
I'd only had multiple each of Honda / Subaru / VW manual transmissions before this and I can confidently say that having 9 manual BMWs definitely helped you here haha. I'd driven a handful of friends' manual BMWs over the years and they're all very similar and took getting used to vs the car I was driving. I don't mind it now that I figured out my seating position you just can't treat it like most other clutches.
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Sounds like a whole lot of operator error to me.
Yes, I must've forgotten how to shift properly after a lifetime of manual driving. My slant six, three on the tree Duster had a more satisfying 1-2 shift.

I must admit, though, that this was my first BMW manual trans. Previous cars were primarily Japanese and classic American.
CDV delete, short shifter, spacer, etc. probably would've helped, but I was reluctant to start modifying the thing with 1300 miles on it.

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Great hustle helping to keep the manual transmissions alive!! Practice, practice and more practice will get you there.
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There’s nothing wrong, it’s just me being new at driving a manual lol.

I’ve made a concerted effort to try and fix how I’m finessing the clutch and I’ve gotten way better since I posted this. I was getting chatter and bogging taking off because I wasn’t slow enough off the clutch. I still try and give it some gas taking off now but if I wanted to I can get it to take off without gas and basically no chatter.

The 1-2 shift issue I’ve seemed to resolve by pausing briefly at the bite point and just getting better at finding the bite point to begin with. I think a lot of the jerky shifts I was getting was me just underestimating how much the clutch pedal needs to travel before getting to that point. The bite point is high on this car; much higher than the car I practiced with initially.
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