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      11-20-2024, 06:56 PM   #23
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Sure, but to think that there are actual ships that have crashed and we have the debris seems very unlikely. If some alien form has made it to earth, it is likely using some sort of craft that can more or less shape shift and the current laws of physics as we know them don't apply. They sure as hell aren't using craft with lights, wings, and such
I've no doubt you have heard the term 'alien technology' used describing things like on weapons and the advanced latest jet fighters, so even though the Pen ta gon may or may not have exactly confirmed there are, ok lets say UAP's instead, this technology could only have come from the debris of crashed UAP's which when discovered are secured quickly by military security.
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I used to race against a guy who was suspected of being a space alien, but could never find the glowing green rock under his drivers seat that let him bend space and time to get around corners faster than everyone else.....
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I used to race against a guy who was suspected of being a space alien, but could never find the glowing green rock under his drivers seat that let him bend space and time to get around corners faster than everyone else.....
As well as the rock he had some nice trick hanger suspension for that
I was talking with a chap around the corner who races a small stock car and some of the things he does to the engine and hangers keeping in line with the regulations that others are still in the dark about makes him win races.
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I've no doubt you have heard the term 'alien technology' used describing things like on weapons and the advanced latest jet fighters, so even though the Pen ta gon may or may not have exactly confirmed there are, ok lets say UAP's instead, this technology could only have come from the debris of crashed UAP's which when discovered are secured quickly by military security.
This shows a basic failure of the human brain: we don’t like the unexplained. Thus we see something that we don’t understand (I saw lights doing things that normally couldn’t be done), and then without any facts or evidence we form a firm conclusion (it must be aliens). Bingo, problem solved, no more open questions.

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You're going to believe a tabloid news source?
I'm going with my factory installed BS detector until I see one myself.
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This shows a basic failure of the human brain: we don’t like the unexplained. Thus we see something that we don’t understand (I saw lights doing things that normally couldn’t be done), and then without any facts or evidence we form a firm conclusion (it must be aliens). Bingo, problem solved, no more open questions.
Nature abhors a vacuum. Been going on since humans first walked the Earth. Anything that is beyond initial comprehension is ascribed to extraterrestrial origins or supernatural beings.

I'm surprised smart phones aren't considered the work of witches.
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I'm surprised smart phones aren't considered the work of witches.
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...this technology could only have come from the debris of crashed UAP's...
That's not even remotely accurate.

It's one thing to say that we, as lay people, don't understand a technology, and quite another to say we know where it comes from. The great inventors (like Tesla) always had fantastic tech in their heads that others didn't understand, so it's likely that same thing is happening today. I think the only difference is that instead of being ostracized, the military is scooping these people up for their projects.
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I'm going with my factory installed BS detector until I see one myself.
I saw one waaaaaaay too close in the late 1980's, as in standing under a triangle-shaped one on the side of the road hovering about 500 feet overhead. No noise, but it did blow the Radio Shack stereo's amplifier chip out in my car. The regional newspaper had reports about it the next day, and my now-late best friend (who I didn't know at the time) saw the same thing from a parallel road.....
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Organic life forms may not survive travelling vast distance.
If aliens visited earth, they were in the form of robots, not organic life forms.
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This shows a basic failure of the human brain: we don’t like the unexplained. Thus we see something that we don’t understand (I saw lights doing things that normally couldn’t be done), and then without any facts or evidence we form a firm conclusion (it must be aliens). Bingo, problem solved, no more open questions.
I'm not going to ask you if you have seen a UFO anytime but others are welcome to come on and say what they saw however unusual, then I'll tell you what I saw while walking my pet dog.
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...then I'll tell you what I saw while walking my pet dog.
Did it drop a bag of dog poop into your neighbor's rubbish bin?????
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I'm not going to ask you if you have seen a UFO anytime but others are welcome to come on and say what they saw however unusual, then I'll tell you what I saw while walking my pet dog.
Confirmed as alien? Or merely unexplained?
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Confirmed as alien? Or merely unexplained?
Confirmed by me and a driver in a Mini I stopped.
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Did it drop a bag of dog poop into your neighbor's rubbish bin?????
Now I wish I never mentioned my dog
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Now I wish I never mentioned my dog
Sorry for the bad joke about the thread by a well-known poster here who dropped his dog's poop into a neighbor's curbside trash bin.

I believe that UFOs exist because I've seen one waaaaaay too close.....
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I agree. I don't believe in UFOs or Aliens, at least not in the modern sense.


If you know the Story of Enoch, Annunaki and the "gods" who descended down Mount Olympus - I'd also suggest reading Flavius Josephus who talks about the very event.

People who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.

I think aliens have probably been around on Earth for a long time, but I also think any sudden "alien event" could just be something staged by the government to manipulate or control people.
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I think aliens have probably been around on Earth for a long time, but I also think any sudden "alien event" could just be something staged by the government to manipulate or control people.
Aliens are just a secular psudeo scientific name for spiritual beings like angels. The Greeks called them gods, the Egyptians the Annunaki, and the Hebrews call them Bene Alohim - Son's of God.

Just like modern day "terrible lizards" ...errr, Dinosaurs, are the classically referenced dragons.

Old story, different wrapper same candy.
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This shows a basic failure of the human brain: we don’t like the unexplained. Thus we see something that we don’t understand (I saw lights doing things that normally couldn’t be done), and then without any facts or evidence we form a firm conclusion (it must be aliens). Bingo, problem solved, no more open questions.
Yeah, that's not true. People today are dumber, weaker and less capable in any time in history. People could tell the weather in advance, navigate far distances they've never been with pin point accuracy by using star based mapping that counted for seasonal drift, produce their own food, hand build their own shelter, build advanced structures wjthot the aid of artifical processing power.


You guys have literally no clue. People are logical, they had curiosity and the attention span to actually think about some of these things. 90% of the stuff we do now is rehashed old ideas done poorly.
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Yeah, that's not true. People today are dumber, weaker and less capable in any time in history. People could tell the weather in advance, navigate far distances they've never been with pin point accuracy by using star based mapping that counted for seasonal drift, produce their own food, hand build their own shelter, build advanced structures wjthot the aid of artifical processing power.


You guys have literally no clue. People are logical, they had curiosity and the attention span to actually think about some of these things. 90% of the stuff we do now is rehashed old ideas done poorly.
Not following what you’re saying.
At this moment in time, there is exactly the same amount of evidence for extraterrestrial life visiting us as there is for the tooth fairy.
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Not following what you’re saying.
At this moment in time, there is exactly the same amount of evidence for extraterrestrial life visiting us as there is for the tooth fairy.
Honestly, I was going to write you a whole breakdown on this but you wouldn't read it, or believe me. I already mentioned 3 different accounts of Aliens to you, as presented by "ancient" cultures.

They are called Aliens to us today, in our present culture and understanding of the world. The story of Enoch in Hebrew scriptures talk about 'metaphysical' (literally Spiritual) being that come from beyond Earth. This is also the concept of Babylonian, Sumerian, Egyptian, Greek, Roman, etc...philosophy since ever. It's an old idea, it's always been around and it's had different names- but it's the same exact concept. Metaphysical beings, awesome powers and diverse appearance - give people knowledge and understanding. Isn't like the exact plot of 90% of the movies out there too? I'll agree with everyone else here aliens as presented on Tv - movie or news or anything else, it likely fiction.

The concept of aliens is an old, and documented
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Sorry for the bad joke about the thread by a well-known poster here who dropped his dog's poop into a neighbor's curbside trash bin.

I believe that UFOs exist because I've seen one waaaaaay too close.....
I remember you saying about your triangular shape UFO experience before with the car radio radio shack chip blowing out.
My own one was a few years ago walking the dog at night on a quiet street near home and an oval shaped craft I'd guess 500 metres up heading SW. It was flame red underneath with black 'tubes' running across. It was completely silent flying at maybe 80 - 100 mph, I stopped a car coming towards me and pointed to the craft, the occupant and his partner couldn't make out what it was definitely not a Chinese lantern and no weather or any other type of balloon as it continued disappearing over the horizon.
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