[RockCrusher]

Booked my M2 in at the local dealer for an oil/filter service May 1. 647 miles. Yes, not 1200 miles but I like to treat a new engine to an early oil/filter service.

Got the car back in about an hour. The local BMW dealer's service department is good, efficient. (That's BMW of Bentonville AR.)

Price: $191.21.

The break down in cost:
Labor: $50.00
Filter: $27.02
Oil: $97.60
Tax: $16.59

That's on par with what it cost an oil/filter service for my 230i last October. The 230i oil filter cost $23.54. The oil cost $77.58. The 230i engine was filled with 0w-20 oil. The M2 engine got 0w-30 oil.

I don't know the oil quantities either engine requires.

Got into the M2 and immediately checked the oil level. Not because I was concerned the tech didn't do his job properly, but I wanted to note the level because I'm going to do a bit of an oil consumption test.

No I'm not concerned there's a real oil consumption problem just want to become familiar with my M2 and establish some base line for oil usage, like I do for fuel, and (after more miles) tires, brakes, etc. I have done this for all my cars and even my M-B cargo van.

Oh, at engine start I have noticed a 600 miles service alert appear briefly. The M2's condition based service (CBS) feature is letting me know the 1200 mile (break in) service is due in (about) 600 miles.

Also, got an email yesterday from the selling dealer informing me my M2 was due for its 1200 miles service in about 600 miles.

Sure nothing mind blowing or head line worthy in the above. Just a ho hum oil/filter service.

But what follows might be of some interest to M2 (and M3, M4, M5, and M8) owners.

My service advisor gave me a handout: 2023 Maintenance Requirements: M2 Coupe, M3 Sedan, M4 (all body styles), M5 Sedan, M8 (all body styles).

The PDF is attached.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by RockCrusher

Booked my M2 in at the local dealer for an oil/filter service May 1. 647 miles. Yes, not 1200 miles but I like to treat a new engine to an early oil/filter service.

Got the car back in about an hour. The local BMW dealer's service department is good, efficient. (That's BMW of Bentonville AR.)

Price: $191.21.

The break down in cost:
Labor: $50.00
Filter: $27.02
Oil: $97.60
Tax: $16.59

That's on par with what it cost an oil/filter service for my 230i last October. The 230i oil filter cost $23.54. The oil cost $77.58. The 230i engine was filled with 0w-20 oil. The M2 engine got 0w-30 oil.

I don't know the oil quantities either engine requires.

Got into the M2 and immediately checked the oil level. Not because I was concerned the tech didn't do his job properly, but I wanted to note the level because I'm going to do a bit of an oil consumption test.

No I'm not concerned there's a real oil consumption problem just want to become familiar with my M2 and establish some base line for oil usage, like I do for fuel, and (after more miles) tires, brakes, etc. I have done this for all my cars and even my M-B cargo van.

Oh, at engine start I have noticed a 600 miles service alert appear briefly. The M2's condition based service (CBS) feature is letting me know the 1200 mile (break in) service is due in (about) 600 miles.

Also, got an email yesterday from the selling dealer informing me my M2 was due for its 1200 miles service in about 600 miles.

Sure nothing mind blowing or head line worthy in the above. Just a ho hum oil/filter service.

But what follows might be of some interest to M2 (and M3, M4, M5, and M8) owners.

My service advisor gave me a handout: 2023 Maintenance Requirements: M2 Coupe, M3 Sedan, M4 (all body styles), M5 Sedan, M8 (all body styles).

The PDF is attached.

Wish that was the cost down here. Same service here is in the $400 range.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by RockCrusher

Booked my M2 in at the local dealer for an oil/filter service May 1. 647 miles. Yes, not 1200 miles but I like to treat a new engine to an early oil/filter service.

The PDF is attached.

Thank you for the PDF

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Wish that was the cost down here. Same service here is in the $400 range.

My preferred BMW Service Center in upstate NY charges $100 for an Inline 6 Oil & Filter change. My Boxer motorcycles (2 cylinder) costs over 3 times that.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

My preferred BMW Service Center in upstate NY charges $100 for an Inline 6 Oil & Filter change. My Boxer motorcycles (2 cylinder) costs over 3 times that.

That price is what I was quoted for my G42 M240. Truly crazy. They say dealerships make their money on service.

I get my B9 S5 oil changed at a local Porsche race shop...cost is under $300.

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

That price is what I was quoted for my G42 M240. Truly crazy. They say dealerships make their money on service.

I get my B9 S5 oil changed at a local Porsche race shop...cost is under $300.

It’s a bargain for 7 quarts. They also do a full video inspection that’s included and a hand wash, if you like. Hence why it’s my preferred shop. Although I have caught them once recommending something that wasn’t needed. That Tech no longer services my car.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

My preferred BMW Service Center in upstate NY charges $100 for an Inline 6 Oil & Filter change. My Boxer motorcycles (2 cylinder) costs over 3 times that.

Didn't mention it but the oil/filter invoice listed the oil price of $1.22 per unit. A bit of research and this appears to be what the dealer pays for the oil granted it has to buy the oil in bulk in 209 liter drums. So I'll assume that is the price per liter.

Service advisor believed the engine's oil capacity at just over 7 quarts. Call it 7.5 quarts. That's 7 liters. Thus when the oil is in the engine it goes for $13.75/liter.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by zero21

Thank you for the PDF

You are welcome.

[Squidget]

From PDF:

"when fitted, parking brake shoes/linings are excluded from coverage under the BMW Maintenance Program."

I wonder why the e-brake consumables are treated differently than other consumables?

[Axylus]

For maintenance services, including break in services, how can we verify or trust the techs to do their job throrougly and correctly? Is there a way for us to monitor, or do we just have to put faith in what they do behind the scenes?

[Xspeedracer]

Originally Posted by Axylus

For maintenance services, including break in services, how can we verify or trust the techs to do their job throrougly and correctly? Is there a way for us to monitor, or do we just have to put faith in what they do behind the scenes?

Do it yourself if you don’t trust them, as a technician in a shop there is no reason why I would ever skip or bypass any of the maintenance work listed on a tag. I get paid regardless and it comes back to me if there is ever any issue you really do get what you pay for don’t go to speedy lube or any of those places if you want it done right in the first place

[Axylus]

Originally Posted by Xspeedracer

Do it yourself if you don’t trust them, as a technician in a shop there is no reason why I would ever skip or bypass any of the maintenance work listed on a tag. I get paid regardless and it comes back to me if there is ever any issue you really do get what you pay for don’t go to speedy lube or any of those places if you want it done right in the first place

Right, I’m sure you know how to do it and I’m not questioning your integrity but maybe the tech that day is having a bad day and doesn’t care about what they’re doing and just wants to get it done asap, or he doesn’t know how to do it, or forgets to do it

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by Axylus

Right, I’m sure you know how to do it and I’m not questioning your integrity but maybe the tech that day is having a bad day and doesn’t care about what they’re doing and just wants to get it done asap, or he doesn’t know how to do it, or forgets to do it

Nothing you can do about that. Anyone can do bad work, there's no way to prevent it. But it's also why we have warranties, so if they do something shitty, take it back and make them fix it.

Same as literally everything else, from plumbers to dentists. Find people you are comfortable with, hold them accountable for the work they do.

[E23745iTurbo]

Anyone know how to reset the oil service on the I drive 8?

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by Axylus

For maintenance services, including break in services, how can we verify or trust the techs to do their job throrougly and correctly? Is there a way for us to monitor, or do we just have to put faith in what they do behind the scenes?

I rely upon faith/belief the dealer service department staff will do a good job and do it right.

When I took my Porsche cars in I'd ask to see the old air filter, cabin filter, plugs, O2 sensors, brake hardware, even the -- what proved to be -- worn out window regulators.

Tech would almost invariably ask me: Don't you trust me? My standard reply was yes, I do trust you. If I didn't I wouldn't be here asking to see the old parts I'd be at another dealer using techs I did trust. I'm just curious to see the old parts, their condition.

[nijnella2]

As far as I know the factory filled oil in M cars is a special type of break-in oil. There's a reason BMW set the run-in service at 1200 miles give or take, to make sure the bearings and other parts are all seated properly. If you do it too early like here at 600miles, those parts aren't fully broken in yet bur yiu replaced the break in oil with regular oil, that might cause issues and bmw might deny your warranty in the future if sum goes wrong.

[BroDoze]

Originally Posted by nijnella2

As far as I know the factory filled oil in M cars is a special type of break-in oil. There's a reason BMW set the run-in service at 1200 miles give or take, to make sure the bearings and other parts are all seated properly. If you do it too early like here at 600miles, those parts aren't fully broken in yet bur yiu replaced the break in oil with regular oil, that might cause issues and bmw might deny your warranty in the future if sum goes wrong.

Exactly. Why on earth would you intentionally interrupt this process.

This accomplished the exact opposite of the desired purpose.

Let the engineers do the engineering and get your OCD under control.

OP interrupted a critical part of the break-in process.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by BroDoze

Exactly. Why on earth would you intentionally interrupt this process.

This accomplished the exact opposite of the desired purpose.

Let the engineers do the engineering and get your OCD under control.

OP interrupted a critical part of the break-in process.

Had the oil in my 2024 230ix analyzed at 600 miles. And a virgin sample of the oil the tech used to refill the engine.

Of course the factory fill oil had some metal content. This is normal.

Additive wise the oils were the same albeit the factory fill oil had a bit more moly. This arises from assembly lube (grease) that is used to coat the cam lobes to protect them from metal to metal contact upon first start.

After a bit of run time the oil washes the grease off and it gets dispersed through the oil

(If one so desired he could use SWEPCO 502 oil improver which is molybdenum in some special form (micronized?) to give the virgin oil some extra moly.)


The only other difference of note was the factory fill oil had lost some of its high temperature viscosity index.

Factory fill oil (at ~600 miles): Viscosity at 100C: 7.373

Virgin oil: Viscosity at 100C: 8.577

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by BroDoze

Exactly. Why on earth would you intentionally interrupt this process.

This accomplished the exact opposite of the desired purpose.

Let the engineers do the engineering and get your OCD under control.

OP interrupted a critical part of the break-in process.

Agree. OP in this thread didn't even know how much oil the car takes, but thinks he's smarter than the engineers when it comes to oil change intervals

fwiw - I've been ridiculed for following the CBS intervals and told to get a Blackstone oil analysis so I can learn the folly of my ways. Then when I get the Blackstone oil analysis and it comes back great (which I also get annually for my supercharged LS7), those same ppl then say the Blackstone oil analysis is worthless. Just can't win with all the internet car forum engineers.