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      12-11-2024, 02:22 PM   #45
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And a better value to say the least. Why does this car need 815hp? Anyone have the weight specs?
This is Ford's Halo car in Mustang guise. It has to one up the 760 HP GT500 with the same motor, hence the 815 HP. Probably has something to do with Hellcats getting 807 HP as well. No car needs a ton of horsepower, this isn't a car that anyone actually needs either, this is a halo car that people simply want and Ford knows that and got the huge HP number.
Ideally when the track warms up and Ford can get a few days under it's belt, we'll see a low 6:5X or even a 6:4X time because I honestly believe this car is capable of it, it should be faster than the GT3RS.
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Remove the straights and see a different result.
No.


Normally, I hate on Mustangs pretty heavy because Ford is just not serious about making them serious competitors, kind of living somewhere where they don't have the HP of a Mopar and they can't turn or brake like a Chevrolet. But that specific Boss was none of those things. They kick ass pretty well at autoX because of that watts-link and are not the terrible turning car you'd think they are.
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That was a very special car. It had a solid axle. But it was not the solid axle that came on the other Mustangs. Watts link. Unfortunately a very bad transmission, but if the weak points there were fixed, a very capable car.
Never seen a Ford Boss 302 with a factory installed Watts link. Had a race prep 2012 5.0 for 11 years. Aftermarket, yes available. It did have the Torsen diffy.

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No.
Prove it.
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Prove it.
By the same token you have no proof for your statement.

Boss 302 pulls 0.9 g on a skidpad on garbage P Zeros. E92 pulls 0.96 with Sport Cup tires on. Boss 302 Laguna Seca pulls .96 g on the same garbage P Zeros.

Independent rear suspension makes the e92 a little less of a handful, but it doesn't really handle any better.
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By the same token you have no proof for your statement.

Boss 302 pulls 0.9 g on a skidpad on garbage P Zeros. E92 pulls 0.96 with Sport Cup tires on. Boss 302 Laguna Seca pulls .96 g on the same garbage P Zeros.

Independent rear suspension makes the e92 a little less of a handful, but it doesn't really handle any better.

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So what was the Mustang that hurt you?
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Never seen a Ford Boss 302 with a factory installed Watts link. Had a race prep 2012 5.0 for 11 years. Aftermarket, yes available. It did have the Torsen diffy.
Maybe what I was seeing was aftermarket, because we were checking out the underside at the races.

So I may be wrong about that from the factory. But again, overall, it was a very competent car, not "held back".
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So what was the Mustang that hurt you?
None of them. I actually have quite an affinity for Mustangs, but I absolutely realize they are quite the blunt instrument compared to a BMW. It is what it is. I also don't think that outright speed is everything, otherwise I wouldn't have bought a Lotus. To each their own.
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