[oldbmwtech]

Originally Posted by LeggoRacing

I have me20, but haven't put them in yet. Will likely have data next month

Thanks for the update. I hope they work well for you, I have had good experiences with them but a different car. I will be at the track the first weekend of Oct. It's been a long hot summer here and I don't do hot very well, neither do cars. Just not as much fun. Look forward to cooler weather and track days.

[ZPD]

Originally Posted by oldbmwtech

Thanks for the update. I hope they work well for you, I have had good experiences with them but a different car. I will be at the track the first weekend of Oct. It's been a long hot summer here and I don't do hot very well, neither do cars. Just not as much fun. Look forward to cooler weather and track days.

Where are you going?

[oldbmwtech]

Originally Posted by ZPD

Where are you going?

MSR Houston

[oldbmwtech]

Had a very interesting track weekend. The suspension would not change to sport mode even though it showed it. The car was very loose and couldn't figure out what was wrong. By accident I switched the settings and there was no difference. I did this on the street and on the track. I'm pretty quick out there and can keep up with most, but I was the slowest. Sure I was quick down the straights but lost so much time in the turn. I had my hands full. I rarely if never turn on my nannies but had to to keep the car on the track. I took it to the dealer today and was told if no codes they can't fix it. Anyone here have had a similar issue? Will keep you posted.

[Biglife]

Are you running the OEM tires? Those make the car slow and loose in extreme Texas heat

[oldbmwtech]

Originally Posted by Biglife

Are you running the OEM tires? Those make the car slow and loose in extreme Texas heat

Yokohama ADVAN NEOVA AD09
I burned through the Michelins on my my first track weekend. I normally get 2 track weekends out of a set of tires. Car is at another dealer right now. Hopefully I will know something by end of week.

[IMS M3]

I ran Carbotech XP10 fronts and XP8 rears per BimmerWorld for 2 days at Watkins Glen and 4 days at VIR. Stock car and tires. After this, fronts were about 1-2mm left and rears are a little under half remaining. I'm just getting back into tracking so nowhere near a pro pace, but pads were great. I also put over 1k street miles on them and noise wasn't too bad.

Can't wait for PFCs to get back in stock!

[sebaflex]

Anyone tried PFC 331/332?

[GA_G87]

Originally Posted by sebaflex

Anyone tried PFC 331/332?

I have run PFC 331/332 combo at Road Atlanta several times, and they are excellent. Superior performance compared to OE pads. I recommend them. See Bimmerworld guys compare OE vs PFC 331/332 pads in this video

[LeggoRacing]

Originally Posted by sebaflex

Anyone tried PFC 331/332?

We have run them in an e92 with ap brakes. A bit different but probably one of the best pads out there

[LeggoRacing]

I’ve now had a handful of track days in the endless me20. Absolutely amazing pad. Good modulation, heat tolerance and wear. I’ve done 2 weekends and cota and 7 other open track days at a smaller track and have at least 50% pad left up front and more in the rear.

They feel the same lap after lap which is important to me when slowing down from 150+

[oldbmwtech]

Originally Posted by LeggoRacing

I’ve now had a handful of track days in the endless me20. Absolutely amazing pad. Good modulation, heat tolerance and wear. I’ve done 2 weekends and cota and 7 other open track days at a smaller track and have at least 50% pad left up front and more in the rear.

They feel the same lap after lap which is important to me when slowing down from 150+

Thanks for your review. I feel the same way and I always want to give back to our community. Next time order from Black Hawk Japan they are a fraction of the price and same lead time. Choose UPS shipping which I believe the least expensive and once shipped from Japan I got them to my home in 4 days.

[M2M3M3]

Originally Posted by LeggoRacing

We have run them in an e92 with ap brakes. A bit different but probably one of the best pads out there

Agree. Have run them on full race e36. 331/332 will be the pad i get for track days on the g87.

[ZPD]

Originally Posted by LeggoRacing

I’ve now had a handful of track days in the endless me20. Absolutely amazing pad. Good modulation, heat tolerance and wear. I’ve done 2 weekends and cota and 7 other open track days at a smaller track and have at least 50% pad left up front and more in the rear.

They feel the same lap after lap which is important to me when slowing down from 150+

That's impressive life out of those pads!

[LeggoRacing]

Originally Posted by oldbmwtech

Thanks for your review. I feel the same way and I always want to give back to our community. Next time order from Black Hawk Japan they are a fraction of the price and same lead time. Choose UPS shipping which I believe the least expensive and once shipped from Japan I got them to my home in 4 days.

Seems too good to be true to get them more than half off?!

[Vojta89]

I'm going for combo of Endless ME22 front and ME20 rear. As I've seen in first post here from ZPD the ballance of OEM brakes is horrible and it dives the front a lot. One way to solve that is to change rear calipers with larger piston area, but with EBC it's quite complicated.

So I'm going to give a try this ME22/20 combo. Initial bite is higher with ME20 and ME22 is easier to modulate, final braking power is similar with both, but that initial bite of ME20 could make the balance a bit better.

Anyway if that won't make me happy, area of pistons of Panamera calipers from kit that dentprotony@gmail.com (local user) offers is spot on to balance BMW. I've compared balance of piston area with AP kit (CP9665/9449) I previously had on F87, with M4 GT4 (CP6276/6480), Alcon kit (CAR9549/2349) and also for "what I dont want" with 6/4 piston F87 grey Brembo calipers balance

[ZPD]

Originally Posted by Vojta89

I'm going for combo of Endless ME22 front and ME20 rear. As I've seen in first post here from ZPD the ballance of OEM brakes is horrible and it dives the front a lot. One way to solve that is to change rear calipers with larger piston area, but with EBC it's quite complicated.

So I'm going to give a try this ME22/20 combo. Initial bite is higher with ME20 and ME22 is easier to modulate, final braking power is similar with both, but that initial bite of ME20 could make the balance a bit better.

Anyway if that won't make me happy, area of pistons of Panamera calipers from kit that dentprotony@gmail.com (local user) offers is spot on to balance BMW. I've compared balance of piston area with AP kit (CP9665/9449) I previously had on F87, with M4 GT4 (CP6276/6480), Alcon kit (CAR9549/2349) and also for "what I dont want" with 6/4 piston F87 grey Brembo calipers balance

It sounds like you want to shift the brake balance towards the rear. It will be interesting to see how this turns out. I am not arguing with you but I can tell you that after speaking with the owner of Cobalt and one of the techs at G-Loc they both commented on how the front brake bias is by design. A less aggressive pad should be used on the rear and you should expect the rear pads to last 2-4 times longer than the front (if you have TC set to where the car doesn't modulate your rear brakes to maintain slip).

[Vojta89]

Originally Posted by ZPD

It sounds like you want to shift the brake balance towards the rear. It will be interesting to see how this turns out. I am not arguing with you but I can tell you that after speaking with the owner of Cobalt and one of the techs at G-Loc they both commented on how the front brake bias is by design. A less aggressive pad should be used on the rear and you should expect the rear pads to last 2-4 times longer than the front (if you have TC set to where the car doesn't modulate your rear brakes to maintain slip).

I’m doing this because the change of front/rear balance when I moved from optional 6/4 piston on F87 to AP racing was the biggest advantage and the car stopped to do that front dive and was able to brake later with more trail braking. Usually spent 2 sets 25mm front on 1 set 17mm rear (same compound all around - exactly ME22 which I found better than ME20 which is on/off and more hardcore N35S were screwing rotors).
Hope that will work as I plan.

[LeggoRacing]

Originally Posted by Vojta89

I’m doing this because the change of front/rear balance when I moved from optional 6/4 piston on F87 to AP racing was the biggest advantage and the car stopped to do that front dive and was able to brake later with more trail braking. Usually spent 2 sets 25mm front on 1 set 17mm rear (same compound all around - exactly ME22 which I found better than ME20 which is on/off and more hardcore N35S were screwing rotors).
Hope that will work as I plan.

There’s good logic to this. I did this on my Supra with ap brakes and our other e92 racecar with a slight more aggressive pad on the rear. Helped a lot with trail braking and a little less wiggle. But not sure on the g87 as I’m pretty happy with how it brakes with equal compound at the moment.
Science it for us and keep us posted.

[Vojta89]

Originally Posted by LeggoRacing

There’s good logic to this. I did this on my Supra with ap brakes and our other e92 racecar with a slight more aggressive pad on the rear. Helped a lot with trail braking and a little less wiggle. But not sure on the g87 as I’m pretty happy with how it brakes with equal compound at the moment.
Science it for us and keep us posted.

Will let you know, just my car delivery is expected 1. week of April so track season probably at the beginning of May or a bit later. Parts are already coming

Just recieved new aftermarket rotors from 55parts

[oldbmwtech]

Originally Posted by LeggoRacing

Seems too good to be true to get them more than half off?!

I thought the same. Maybe they were counterfeit but I ordered anyway and they are legit. From what I have read Japan is very strict on counterfeit products. I have had 3 track weekends on these with no issues and only about 1/4 wear. Out of the 3 weekends I had 3 days of all day rain.

[jacktli_g87]

Killed the stock pads in 40 laps around Eagles Canyon, got some Endless CCRG from NekoRacing that I'm gonna throw on today.

Can't find much about these online but he says that they are great so I'm taking his word for it