[603BlueM2]

Originally Posted by OneTwo3

This is the spec I was thinking of ordering. Manual, buckets and carbon roof.

Why do you regret the auto?

I just think the manual ups the fun factor.

[im480hp]

I have manual but use car for weekend. For daily drive in city automatic, for weekend like 2-nd car manual.

[nathanwl2004@gmail.com]

I just ordered a manual M2.Ive never owned an auto trans performance car and I thought maybe I'm getting to that stage in my life where I would prefer an auto as a daily. I test drove a couple different cars before finally choosing the m2. I liked the CLA45 AMG and strongly considered it authentic I drove a 24 6MT M2. No comparison. It was so much more engaging to row it through the gears. At one point I owned 3 cars and they were all manuals and I have missed dallying a manual ever since. Long live the manual!!!

[Razor2010]

Originally Posted by DrewNewM2

You can find the vids or forum posts but There are plenty of tuned manual g80 making high HP and TQ. You can probably get away with 800nm or around 600 lb ft for a while if you baby it with a tune but eventually will need a clutch upgrade. I think the PTB clutch is rated to like 1100 nm or 800 lb ft which is somewhere over 700 wheel torque. Haven’t seen any other transmission issues besides slipping clutches.

At that power level, traction would be the biggest issue.

Interesting, great to hear if true. So $3k or so for an upgraded clutch and one should be confident that the manual gear box will hold up long term running 600 ft. Lbs. area.

[SeanJP]

Originally Posted by nathanwl2004@gmail.com

I just ordered a manual M2.Ive never owned an auto trans performance car and I thought maybe I'm getting to that stage in my life where I would prefer an auto as a daily. I test drove a couple different cars before finally choosing the m2. I liked the CLA45 AMG and strongly considered it authentic I drove a 24 6MT M2. No comparison. It was so much more engaging to row it through the gears. At one point I owned 3 cars and they were all manuals and I have missed dallying a manual ever since. Long live the manual!!!

I would imagine with the break-in period you could only do a "light" test drive on these cars. If you go WOT you can destroy the engine.

[fzr100098]

haha no you won't, old wives tale - periodic hard throttle is excellent for break-in, but you want to avoid heat soak...how many engines are broken in on a dyno and make excellent power? Not what I would do for best results but grandma highway break in can cause poor ring sealing and blowby...seen this many times. I broke this engine in hard and doesn't use a drop of oil

As far as manual vs ZF - I'm all about power. Want a slick shifting manual? Buy an S2000, but don't race anyone in it

[Matthewricha]

Well in the end I bought a mint, extremely low mileage Manual with Bucket seats and am over the moon with the car. Pulls like a train in 3rd on the Motorway!

[beren]

If you have to ask, get the auto.

[930416]

Originally Posted by fzr100098

haha no you won't, old wives tale - periodic hard throttle is excellent for break-in, but you want to avoid heat soak...how many engines are broken in on a dyno and make excellent power? Not what I would do for best results but grandma highway break in can cause poor ring sealing and blowby...seen this many times. I broke this engine in hard and doesn't use a drop of oil

As far as manual vs ZF - I'm all about power. Want a slick shifting manual? Buy an S2000, but don't race anyone in it

Dyno break-in is different because you can load up the dyno to maintain a target engine load and rpm, which is rarely near or at redline. Imagine driving on the street while holding the brakes. Like a very long brake boost. So instead of brakes, you load up the rolling resistance.

So you’re not wrong in that boost helps seats rings. And highway/steady state driving should be avoided when possible. But excessive/high rpm should definitely be avoided during break-in.

[SeanJP]

Originally Posted by fzr100098

haha no you won't, old wives tale - periodic hard throttle is excellent for break-in, but you want to avoid heat soak...how many engines are broken in on a dyno and make excellent power? Not what I would do for best results but grandma highway break in can cause poor ring sealing and blowby...seen this many times. I broke this engine in hard and doesn't use a drop of oil

As far as manual vs ZF - I'm all about power. Want a slick shifting manual? Buy an S2000, but don't race anyone in it

You do know that (when new) the S58 does NOT come with normal motor oil, and instead is filled with a special break-in fluid, right?

[Trogster]

My dog prefers the automatic. He gets annoyed when he rests his head on my hand on the center console when I keep reaching for the shifter