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      06-16-2009, 01:01 AM   #1
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Japanese water powered car

A Japanese venture company, Genepax, has unveiled a car on that runs on water. All it requires is a litre of water. In fact, any kind of water to be exact, whether its river, rain, sea water, or even Japanese tea. Its an electric powered car that runs solely on hydrogen dioxide.
"The main characteristic of this car is that no external input is needed. The car will continue to run as long as you have a bottle of water inside for you to add from time to time," said Kiyoshi Hirasawa, Chief Executive Officer of Genepax, after he proudly announced the company's invention.

According to the company, 1 liter of water keeps the car running for about an hour with a speed of 80 kilometers or 50 miles an hour.


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      06-16-2009, 01:30 AM   #2
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      06-16-2009, 01:37 AM   #3
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In other news, the price of water just went up to $200.00 USD per barrel.
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In other news, the price of water just went up to $200.00 USD per barrel.
i can't believe you've done this
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this is very interesting. its great for the city!
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interesting tech indeed. But definately not the first ones to acomplish this i'm sure. I've seen clips on internet years ago about a man who accomplished the same thing. But he kind of got ignored i guess lol
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      06-17-2009, 01:28 PM   #7
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If this really does what they claim it does (separates hydrogen and oxygen via chemical reaction) then it really could pave the way for the future of hydrogen fuel cells. Right now hydrogen fuel cells separate oxygen and hydrogen through extremely inefficient electrolysis which, in many cases, requires more energy to perform than the process actually generates. Would love to see something like this work out!
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This car was introduced exactly a year ago, and by february of this year, the company had shut down.

Conspiracy? Or not?

They possibly used Metal Hydrides, that react with water to release hydrogen. But the hydrides deplete with time, so must be replenished, and are expensive. Moreso than batteries. So it could all have been smoke and mirrors.

As said on another site:

"But there's a question we'd like to ask those who are so certain that 'water cars' (with water as the only fuel, and not as an energy carrier via hydrogen) already work and are somehow kept hidden: If some people had that technology, why would cars be the first thing they try to make? That's hard, with huge supply chains and massive capital investments, lots of regulations and red tape, etc. Why not make power plants right next to rivers (or just use tap water) and sell the power?

They could start very small (less than 1 megawatt) to show that it works. That would be much more profitable, no? Or even sell the technology to makers of portable electronics, which don't have vested interests in oil and cars.

So why aren't we hearing about 'water power plants' (other than hydro), or 'water powered laptops'? It's always 'water cars', and mostly when gas prices are up. Could it be that it's just a really nice story that strikes the imagination (the image of pouring water in a fuel tank is powerful), the way many urban legends do?"

Yeah, if I were doing it, the first thing I'd make is a portable generator that ran off of a small water tank or even off a garden hose. Something like this:

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They're just using water as a medium to power the car. The water is not the actual power provider, it's the electric generator that sits in the back of the car that's providing the power. Water is highly stable. What these people are doing is that, the use the energy provided by the electric generator to split water into hydrogen and oxygen. Then using hydrogen to power the car. It's pretty stupid if you ask me...
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Oooh lovely, I suppose they're working on a cold fusion reactor too.....


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So whenever I run out of gas or in this case water......I can just piss into the tank and I'm good to go ?

Anyway, I hope this technology becomes successful as this will minimize pollution by a huge margin.
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A Japanese venture company, Genepax, has unveiled a car on that runs on water. All it requires is a litre of water. In fact, any kind of water to be exact, whether its river, rain, sea water, or even Japanese tea. Its an electric powered car that runs solely on hydrogen dioxide.
"The main characteristic of this car is that no external input is needed. The car will continue to run as long as you have a bottle of water inside for you to add from time to time," said Kiyoshi Hirasawa, Chief Executive Officer of Genepax, after he proudly announced the company's invention.

According to the company, 1 liter of water keeps the car running for about an hour with a speed of 80 kilometers or 50 miles an hour.

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hydrogen fuel cells= boring as hell (it's basically electric)

Hydrogen Combustion is the way to go! Hydrogen has much more energy than gas too, so it will be easier to make Veyrons and the like. :P

2023 Bugatti: 2.5L engine producing 1400 HP...
2023 Civic: 0.42L engine producing 150 hp

lol

and to make any new engine technology successful, they have to make a big sports car version *cough*
and a cool way to market it, instead of being 'green'
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Oooh lovely, I suppose they're working on a cold fusion reactor too.....


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a cold fusion reactor is actually an ongoing research...its not as far fetched as you believe...and imo, in the next 100 years its going to be like the lightbulb was to our recent memory.
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This does sound a lot like cold fusion, but somehow it also magically powers the car and recharges the batteries neccessary to separate the hydrogen and oxygen. Scientific researchers the world over have been trying to solve this problem for a long time. I remember in high school I had a good discussion with my physics teacher about how close they were to "breaking even" (getting more energy from burning hydrogen than it takes to separate it from the oxygen in water). It hasn't happened yet and this car company has not figured it out either. I suspect this car is draining the heck out of its battery to power an unneccessary go between to power to the wheels.
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