Aussie Holden coming to the US as the Pontiac G8

JamieA · 01-10-2007, 07:38 AM

Take a look at our VE Commodore. Today I heard that GM's Bob Lutz confirmed it is heading to the US as the Pontiac G8....

voltron1011 · 01-10-2007, 12:34 PM

Yeah, I've been following this for last 6 months now... They were first thinking of bringing it as the new Grand Prix, but it looks like it'll be G8. I really like that car... I would seriuosly consider this vs a 5 series, if the quality was there... Jamie, how do these look on the road? Have you seen one up close?

KL2DC · 01-10-2007, 12:45 PM

It'd be promising if GM shows euro restraint in the car's inevitable repackaging/restyling to fit in Pontiac's lineup/suit perceived US market bold tastes. Encouragingly, Pontiac has moved away from the body-cladding heavy philosophy of yore but I still think they didn't do such a swell job with the repackaging/positioning of the Monaro into the GTO. They also seem to miss the mark on the proper marketing of these awesome aussie cars.

uhaulball · 01-10-2007, 01:13 PM

i hope they just make it left side drive and dont touch a thing. ive always liked this car ever since i saw it 3 years ago in person.

voltron1011 · 01-10-2007, 01:44 PM

KL2DC, you are absolutely correct. I'm wondering what the pricing will be.... If it's price is close to the GTO (Monaro) it could be a hit.
The hard part would be explaining to my wife why I want a Pontiac... After all the years of me smacktalking GM, It'd be very challenging.

StewtheBassman · 01-10-2007, 01:46 PM

As long as you keep the wife, you have my blessing to buy whatever car you like LOL!!

Chris.G · 01-10-2007, 05:31 PM

I went to the holden dealer today in Sydney, because im really interested in owning this car a my second ride to 335. The car in person is so much better, then in pictures. The ss-v varient we have here is very nice all muscle car feel. The pics don't do it justice.

Voltron to answer part your question, its not near the quality of bmw 5 series.
This car can't be compared to bmw's. (possibly the drive feel) Its a typical muscle car that has a massive improvement in handling and safety. if i could compare it to bmw it would be best compared against a 3series.(handling wise) performance of this car is very good.

JamieA · 01-11-2007, 09:53 AM

Lutz indicated that they don't want to repeat the Monaro/GTO failure, they said they priced it wrong. They want the car to be about $25k

JamieA · 01-11-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by voltron1011

Yeah, I've been following this for last 6 months now... They were first thinking of bringing it as the new Grand Prix, but it looks like it'll be G8. I really like that car... I would seriuosly consider this vs a 5 series, if the quality was there... Jamie, how do these look on the road? Have you seen one up close?

They look brilliant in the flesh. So much better than the pictures. It is the best Aussie car I have ever seen.

JamieA · 01-11-2007, 10:03 AM

Some more piccies... including the more wild version of the interior... will be interesting to see what is selected for the US

voltron1011 · 01-11-2007, 11:29 AM

Thanks, Jamie... The SS-V is the BOMB!!! The flaired fenders totally make the car.

ALPINE6SPD · 01-11-2007, 06:41 PM

omg that spoiler and interior is sooooooooooooo nasty and looks so cheap. The front end loks the old front end on the subaru legacy.

JamieA · 01-11-2007, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

omg that spoiler and interior is sooooooooooooo nasty and looks so cheap. The front end loks the old front end on the subaru legacy.

The SS-V interior is meant to be cheap, it is a cheap car. The front end follows the VZ predecessor car and the Sub came out with the design after Holden launched it - Sub was briefly in the GM empire remember.

Anyway the car does impress in the flesh, but it isn't a BMW, it is built to a price for a mass market. It does this job exceedingly well, as the Commodore line has been the top selling car in the Aussie market for more than 7 years now.

The designer of this vehicle - Mike Simcoe is now GM's global Director of Design for Passenger Vehicles.

Walked U · 01-11-2007, 09:54 PM

Whats the specs on this car if anyone knows?

JamieA · 01-11-2007, 09:58 PM

From Holden's website - www.holden.com.au

Weight approx 1760kg (3858lb), you will be getting the 6.0L V8, 0-100km/h 5.6s 6sp man, 5.8s 6sp Auto

Walked U · 01-11-2007, 10:03 PM

Oh thats not bad at all. If they offer it less than 30k USD than i might even think of getting one as another car.

JamieA · 01-11-2007, 10:11 PM

Lutzy was quoted as wanting to target $25k US

Walked U · 01-11-2007, 10:14 PM

25k.. omg thats as much as a new civic si. Your going to have a lot of fast cars on the street.

I think they will probably end up selling it for around 30k-35k USD as not too piss off any c6 owners.

JamieA · 01-11-2007, 10:16 PM

It will be interesting to see what the final price is. Lutzy kind of let the cat out of the bag one month early before GM and Holden had time to make a considered statement.... watch this space.

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voltron1011 Colonel 122 Rep 2,909 Posts Drives: 2011 135i, FJR-1300 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wiesbaden iTrader: (2)	Yeah, I've been following this for last 6 months now... They were first thinking of bringing it as the new Grand Prix, but it looks like it'll be G8. I really like that car... I would seriuosly consider this vs a 5 series, if the quality was there... Jamie, how do these look on the road? Have you seen one up close?
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voltron1011 Colonel 122 Rep 2,909 Posts Drives: 2011 135i, FJR-1300 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wiesbaden iTrader: (2)	KL2DC, you are absolutely correct. I'm wondering what the pricing will be.... If it's price is close to the GTO (Monaro) it could be a hit. The hard part would be explaining to my wife why I want a Pontiac... After all the years of me smacktalking GM, It'd be very challenging.
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JamieA Colonel 93 Rep 2,168 Posts Drives: G01 X3 M40i Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Adelaide, Australia iTrader: (0)	Lutz indicated that they don't want to repeat the Monaro/GTO failure, they said they priced it wrong. They want the car to be about $25k __________________ '05 E90 325i \| '06 E90 325i \| '08 E90 325i LCI \| '13 F30 328i M-Sport \| '14 F10 535d M-Sport Current: '19 G01 X3 M40i
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JamieA Colonel 93 Rep 2,168 Posts Drives: G01 X3 M40i Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Adelaide, Australia iTrader: (0)	Some more piccies... including the more wild version of the interior... will be interesting to see what is selected for the US Attached Images __________________ '05 E90 325i \| '06 E90 325i \| '08 E90 325i LCI \| '13 F30 328i M-Sport \| '14 F10 535d M-Sport Current: '19 G01 X3 M40i
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Walked U Brigadier General 184 Rep 3,125 Posts Drives: Too many to list Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA iTrader: (5)	Oh thats not bad at all. If they offer it less than 30k USD than i might even think of getting one as another car. __________________ Previous - E90 335i, E82 135i, E89 Z4 3.5SI, Range Rover S/C, Ultra White RCF, Maserati Granturismo Current Lexus: SMG LC500 performance package Porsche:1973 911E Ferrari 575 SA, 458 Italia
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Walked U Brigadier General 184 Rep 3,125 Posts Drives: Too many to list Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA iTrader: (5)	25k.. omg thats as much as a new civic si. Your going to have a lot of fast cars on the street. I think they will probably end up selling it for around 30k-35k USD as not too piss off any c6 owners. __________________ Previous - E90 335i, E82 135i, E89 Z4 3.5SI, Range Rover S/C, Ultra White RCF, Maserati Granturismo Current Lexus: SMG LC500 performance package Porsche:1973 911E Ferrari 575 SA, 458 Italia
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