[Haywood]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

What does the GC stand for?

General Classification. It's where everyone is placed during a race. Basically, it's the top riders who have a chance to win.

[MNoob]

Originally Posted by Haywood

I love Sagan. I only wish he could be a GC contender. But, there's isn't too much he can't do on a bike.

Grand Tour, no. But he's definitely shown he's a GC contender on shorter stage races.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MNoob

Pot Belge. Who the hell came up with that concoction?

The pot Belge was Made in Belgium of course that's why the Festina's won almost everything in 1998 with Willy-Voet as the supplier => https://en.wikipedia.org
=> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Voet
/wiki/Doping_at_the_Tour_de_France#1998_Festina_scandal
This was before and while the EPO era and the first user of EPO in the peleton was the "Spaniard Indurain" , and only that's why he won the Tour as well .
He was working with the Italians and Dr. Ferrari in the EPO lab .

I saw "Bjarne Riis" in person when he won the "Amstel Gold Race" ...I , I said "I" personal stood on the top of the Hallembaye and his face was looking blue from too much hematocrit , he was actually in mortal danger while he won the race with more than 4 minutes advance..He actually flew !
The Hallembaye =>http://www.klimclassic.nl/klimtijd-c...ter/index.html
I was there in my youth...and later I drove for 4 years in the Belgian competition and it was no joke !


Today the Tour is a giant lab full of lies and hypocrites !

=> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Conconi
=> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping...Tour_de_France

Within 5-6 years the name/kind of the doping wins the Tour and no longer the rider..

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Haywood

I love Sagan. I only wish he could be a GC contender. But, there's isn't too much he can't do on a bike.

SAGAN is a playboy on wheels and is natural talented but with probably also one the most advanced doping programs on our planet earth ...
The only question is...For how long ...

[MNoob]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The pot Belge was Made in Belgium of course that's why the Festina's won almost everything in 1998 with Willy-Voet as the supplier => https://en.wikipedia.org
=> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Voet
/wiki/Doping_at_the_Tour_de_France#1998_Festina_scandal
This was before and while the EPO era and the first user of EPO in the peleton was the "Spaniard Indurain" , and only that's why he won the Tour as well .
He was working with the Italians and Dr. Ferrari in the EPO lab .

I saw "Bjarne Riis" in person when he won the "Amstel Gold Race" ...I , I said "I" personal stood on the top of the Hallembaye and his face was looking blue from too much hematocrit , he was actually in mortal danger while he won the race with more than 4 minutes advance..He actually flew !
The Hallembaye =>http://www.klimclassic.nl/klimtijd-c...ter/index.html
I was there in my youth...and later I drove for 4 years in the Belgian competition and it was no joke !


Today the Tour is a giant lab full of lies and hypocrites !

=> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Conconi
=> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping...Tour_de_France

Within 5-6 years the name/kind of the doping wins the Tour and no longer the rider..

it was a rhetorical question

[Haywood]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

SAGAN is a playboy on wheels and is natural talented but with probably also one the most advanced doping programs on our planet earth ...
The only question is...For how long ...

Belgie, any articles on this? The testing is pretty good today. Not to say that any of these guys are still innocent. I just hope he is.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Haywood

Belgie, any articles on this? The testing is pretty good today. Not to say that any of these guys are still innocent. I just hope he is.

Articles will folow , but only on the day of the discovery (can take years) For the moment it's of course the cat and mouse game like usual...Like actually all do

That's why they made even a movie from Armstrong with the name => "The program"

Other sports are not really better because I heard yesterday on the Belgian newsflash about the past Olympics and that the Russians had a hole in the doping control wall ...

EDIT=> The Russian hole => http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/sp...2014.html?_r=0

[MNoob]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

the Russians had a hole in the doping control wall ...

A hole? Sounds like they are missing the entire wall!

[MNoob]

Cav is the man

TJ ain't never gonna get there

Sprinters whine more than figure skaters

Nairo is the little engine that couldn't

No matter how you slice it, Froome is goofy as f*ck

[Haywood]

Originally Posted by MNoob

Cav is the man

TJ ain't never gonna get there

Sprinters whine more than figure skaters

Nairo is the little engine that couldn't

No matter how you slice it, Froome is goofy as f*ck

Ha! I agree with all your points. WTH has Quintana been waiting for? It's also that's Sky's team are ridiculously good and all he has is Valverde in the mountains. Froome looks like Michael J Fox on a bike.

[dc503]

Originally Posted by MNoob

Cav is the man

TJ ain't never gonna get there

Sprinters whine more than figure skaters

Nairo is the little engine that couldn't

No matter how you slice it, Froome is goofy as f*ck

I'm loving his resurgence, it's signature Cav

Poor TVG, I also think it's a result of an American rider, American team and hopes for the next :gasp: Lance...unfortunately. He's not that guy and I don't fault him, he's solid but there's also a new crop of fringe GC contenders invading the top 10.

Me thinks it's fun to see the shoe on the other foot with the sprinters, with Cav having the upper-hand and being in Kittel's head. I actually feel sad for Greipel!

Quintana, sigh. I keep pretending that someone can do about Froome in the 3rd week of a GT, when he's weakest historically. I'm not optimistic in that he's already been dropped once.

[MNoob]

Originally Posted by dc503

Poor TVG, I also think it's a result of an American rider, American team and hopes for the next :gasp: Lance...unfortunately. He's not that guy and I don't fault him, he's solid but there's also a new crop of fringe GC contenders invading the top 10.

I love Tejay, my son is a huge fan. I want him to be in the hunt for the win, or even podium, but it's just not there. He reminds me a lot of Levi Leipheimer. Levi was always close on the climbs, but could never respond to any acceleration. Both also strong TT riders, but not quite the best. It's that space between the podium guys and the top domestiques.

[dc503]

Originally Posted by MNoob

I love Tejay, my son is a huge fan. I want him to be in the hunt for the win, or even podium, but it's just not there. He reminds me a lot of Levi Leipheimer. Levi was always close on the climbs, but could never respond to any acceleration. Both also strong TT riders, but not quite the best. It's that space between the podium guys and the top domestiques.

I am too, I like to see him do well but perhaps the Grand Tour's are just out of his grasp. With the rise of the new podium crop of GC guys, I don't see it getting easier, Bardet, Pinot, Kruiswijk, Dumoulin etc, that's a lot of riders to beat. Though, I wonder if targeting the Giro or Vuelta would do anything for him versus the TdF.

[wdb]

Originally Posted by MNoob

I love Tejay, my son is a huge fan. I want him to be in the hunt for the win, or even podium, but it's just not there. He reminds me a lot of Levi Leipheimer. Levi was always close on the climbs, but could never respond to any acceleration. Both also strong TT riders, but not quite the best. It's that space between the podium guys and the top domestiques.

^^^ This. He should be doing super-domestique duties for Richie, who is the only man in the peloton with a snowball's chance of beating Froome. I can't decide if the reason Tejay isn't being put in that role is to pull in US viewers with a GC contender, or that he pushes his ego around. He doesn't seem the type but then on-camera and off-camera personas can be quite different (***cough***Lance***cough***).

[MNoob]

Found a video from Team Sky's training camp. Covers Froome's prep for the Tour. Scientific to say the least.

[dc503]

Originally Posted by MNoob

Found a video from Team Sky's training camp. Covers Froome's prep for the Tour. Scientific to say the least.

That's about right haha.

No more tour, I guess I'll just have to resume life now.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MNoob

Grand Tour, no. But he's definitely shown he's a GC contender on shorter stage races.

For the third time we need respect for Froome ...

From today in Paris

[MNoob]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

For the third time we need respect for Froome ...

From today in Paris

That quote was about tejay, not froome.:

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MNoob

That quote was about tejay, not froome.:

Just share "The pic from today" from the last stage on the Champs-Élysées .

[wdb]

After watching the Paris finale today my wife turned to me and said "you know what was really nice about this tour? No mention of drugs."

[Haywood]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Just share "The pic from today" from the last stage on the Champs-Élysées .

4 out of 5 years for Team Sky. They're definitely doing something right.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Haywood

4 out of 5 years for Team Sky. They're definitely doing something right.

"Something" is the key word