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      05-03-2023, 11:04 PM   #199
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I need that hood!
Those 19" wheels upfront look small compared to the 20" rears. I true 20" square setup would look better. And these particular style bi-color wheels look excellent. Ai agree about the hood...
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Hmm, look at the trees in the background of the photos, clearly they were taken last fall/winter.
Still sticking with this. It is Spring in Germany.
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According to: https://www.motor.es/noticias/bmw-m2...202394641.html 480 hp, AT and x-drive:

"The new BMW M2 CS is expected to debut in a year and a half, launching in the spring of 2025 for one key reason: to allow time for the M2 to settle in the market. Something difficult considering that it will share the same 3.0-liter biturbo six-cylinder engine but with extra power that will put it at 480 hp. The all-wheel drive "M xDrive" will continue to be standard, with a specific mode that will make it a pure and hard rear-wheel drive, just as the change will be an 8-speed dual-clutch automatic."
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I'm #1 on my dealer's M2CS list but if they add that goofy red outlining like they did the M3 CS, and it only comes in 8AT x-drive, count me out.
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According to: https://www.motor.es/noticias/bmw-m2...202394641.html 480 hp, AT and x-drive:

"The new BMW M2 CS is expected to debut in a year and a half, launching in the spring of 2025 for one key reason: to allow time for the M2 to settle in the market. Something difficult considering that it will share the same 3.0-liter biturbo six-cylinder engine but with extra power that will put it at 480 hp. The all-wheel drive "M xDrive" will continue to be standard, with a specific mode that will make it a pure and hard rear-wheel drive, just as the change will be an 8-speed dual-clutch automatic."
“an 8-speed dual-clutch automatic."

Say what?
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According to: https://www.motor.es/noticias/bmw-m2...202394641.html 480 hp, AT and x-drive:

"The new BMW M2 CS is expected to debut in a year and a half, launching in the spring of 2025 for one key reason: to allow time for the M2 to settle in the market. Something difficult considering that it will share the same 3.0-liter biturbo six-cylinder engine but with extra power that will put it at 480 hp. The all-wheel drive "M xDrive" will continue to be standard, with a specific mode that will make it a pure and hard rear-wheel drive, just as the change will be an 8-speed dual-clutch automatic."
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According to: https://www.motor.es/noticias/bmw-m2...202394641.html 480 hp, AT and x-drive:

"The new BMW M2 CS is expected to debut in a year and a half, launching in the spring of 2025 for one key reason: to allow time for the M2 to settle in the market. Something difficult considering that it will share the same 3.0-liter biturbo six-cylinder engine but with extra power that will put it at 480 hp. The all-wheel drive "M xDrive" will continue to be standard, with a specific mode that will make it a pure and hard rear-wheel drive, just as the change will be an 8-speed dual-clutch automatic."
the pics (especially first one) seem 80-90% accurate as I would expect the new M2 come with exterior high gloss black or/and carbon elements instead those in the same color as the body.
Hopefully the new emissions regulations coming to North America will not push BMW to offer this M2 iteration come with a hybrid engine instead this S58 beauty by Spring of 2025...
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According to: https://www.motor.es/noticias/bmw-m2...202394641.html 480 hp, AT and x-drive:

"The new BMW M2 CS is expected to debut in a year and a half, launching in the spring of 2025 for one key reason: to allow time for the M2 to settle in the market. Something difficult considering that it will share the same 3.0-liter biturbo six-cylinder engine but with extra power that will put it at 480 hp. The all-wheel drive "M xDrive" will continue to be standard, with a specific mode that will make it a pure and hard rear-wheel drive, just as the change will be an 8-speed dual-clutch automatic."
The below pic: I HATE these upfitted 240i photos of "M2s".
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The below pic: I HATE these upfitted 240i photos of "M2s".
Its funny I was looking at the rear fenders of the bottom image thinking "those don't look right... did they use an M4 as the base picture for the photoshop?" Now you say 240i and it all makes sense... Sorry to the M4 crowd
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      05-04-2023, 12:25 PM   #208
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Its funny I was looking at the rear fenders of the bottom image thinking "those don't look right... did they use an M4 as the base picture for the photoshop?" Now you say 240i and it all makes sense... Sorry to the M4 crowd
The front bumper, front and rear quarters, and front wheel width are dead giveaways each time.
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      05-04-2023, 12:37 PM   #209
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I see the CS will have upgraded suspension.. it’s sitting much lower turn the base M2
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      05-04-2023, 07:26 PM   #210
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Is this source (motor.es) even legit or pure garbage?
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plot twist .. this could be a CSL. That trunk is molded into 1 piece with that high kick spoiler.
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plot twist .. this could be a CSL. That trunk is molded into 1 piece with that high kick spoiler.
Someone mentioned previously the CS will be automatic and the CSL the manual. Regardless which one pops up, I would be interested to see
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Someone mentioned previously the CS will be automatic and the CSL the manual. Regardless which one pops up, I would be interested to see
Highly unlikely either will be a manual. But I have to believe BMW will produce a "final version" for 6MT crowd and charge a shit ton of money for it. I'll probably be out of the running if I want to stay married.
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      05-05-2023, 03:14 PM   #215
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Is this source (motor.es) even legit or pure garbage?
I mean, it says DCT, and that makes no sense. So I'm in skeptical mode.
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https://www.bmwblog.com/2023/05/07/2...m2-cs-renders/

"The 2025 BMW M2 CS is on its way! BMW’s intention to produce a high-performance sports coupe utilizing the G87 M2 platform was disclosed through recent spy photos. As a result, we have attempted to predict the exterior design of the upcoming 2025 BMW M2 CS. In collaboration with digital artist Nicolás Cavero (@futurecarsnow), we have produced a collection of digital representations of the G87 M2 in various colors. Our renderings endeavor to closely resemble the forthcoming production series M2 CS, drawing inspiration from the current spy shots available.

We have commenced our color assortment with three options: Alpine White, Brooklyn Grey, and Techno Violet. Although this may not be the actual color range for the 2025 BMW M2 CS, we feel confident that a few of these selections will be offered in the final production model. We definitely prefer the Techno Violet to be included in the M2 CS lineup among these exterior colors.

The front-end design of the G87 M2 CS takes some design cues from the G80 M3 CS which was recently unveiled. At the front, this 2025 BMW M2 CS features a set of headlights with racing yellow graphics. The kidney grille size stays the same, but it gains red accents on the grill’s surrounding frame. Of course, the lower front fascia makes extensive use of carbon fiber with an integrated lip. The hood was redesigned as well, featuring a power dome with a vent, as seen in spy photos as well.

On the side, a massive carbon fiber rocker panel with red accents gives the car a wider and even more aggressive look. Some of the renders take a stab at the wheel design as well, featuring different colors.Our favorite aspect of the 2025 BMW M2 CS is the rear-end design. We have incorporated the ducktail spoiler from the G82 M4 CSL, as it was seen in the spy images. We expect that ducktail spoiler to be part of an all-carbon fiber trunk. Along with that, we have modified the diffuser while preserving the iconic quad exhaust pipes. Other design elements could be incorporated into the G87 M2 CS production model, but they cannot be confirmed until the prototypes reveal more by shedding their camouflage and fake body panels.

As one would anticipate, the 2025 BMW M2 CS won’t feature a dramatic overhaul in contrast to the standard M2. Ultimately, CS models receive minor visual enhancements, instead prioritizing more impactful mechanical and software upgrades.

Over 500 hp, 8-speed auto only

Regarding the upgrades, we predict that the S58 3.0-liter six-cylinder engine will experience a substantial boost in power from its current 453 horsepower. Following the power increase and LCI in 2024 for the M3 and M4, it is probable that the G87 M2 CS will receive similar enhancements. As BMW has not hinted at an M2 CSL model, it seems logical to maximize the G87 M2 CS, which will probably generate anywhere between 500 to 518 horsepower.

Unfortunately, this might also mean that the 2025 M2 CS will drop the standard car’s manual transmission option. Instead, the M2 CS will only use an eight-speed automatic. Of course, that might be incredibly disappointing since the last-gen M2 CS came with a manual. But BMW has yet to upgrade the current six-speed manual to handle additional torque. So the 8-speed automatic is the logical choice.

Inside, expect BMW’s carbon fiber racing bucks as-standard in the G87 M2 CS. Of course, BMW won’t officially acknowledge the new M2 CS until go-time, but make no mistake about it: the new top M2 sportscar is on the way. We anticipate that the G87 M2 CS will commence production in limited quantities during the latter half of 2025."
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I could see them giving the CS the M3/4 comp's 510 hp, 479 tq and maybe giving the CSL the M3 CS's power bump on top of that still.

Who knows though...
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Highly unlikely either will be a manual. But I have to believe BMW will produce a "final version" for 6MT crowd and charge a shit ton of money for it. I'll probably be out of the running if I want to stay married.
You will be fine. The take rate on manual BMWs is so low that I do not foresee it happening.
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You will be fine. The take rate on manual BMWs is so low that I do not foresee it happening.
The CS and CSL will be limited edition only. The MT take rate should not matter.They can use the same gearbox as the 3.0 CSL. No one knows what changed in the 3.0 CSL gearbox.
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The CS and CSL will be limited edition only. The MT take rate should not matter.They can use the same gearbox as the 3.0 CSL. No one knows what changed in the 3.0 CSL gearbox.
Probably nothing, I think the manual states a clutch replacement every 50k km.
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