[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

It's just subsections or degrees. For example, you can be charged with multiple sections of 23152(a) CVC, misdemeanor drunk driving, on a single DUI arrest.

I'm thinking an appeal will be filed pretty soon.

[Buug959]

Originally Posted by Murf993

I'm thinking an appeal will be filed pretty soon.

I'm sure the paperwork is already started, if not ready, to file.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

Wow, I'm surprised honestly. Didn't think it was going to be guilty, but wasn't sure either.

The political pressure was way too strong in the end. Couple that with the possibility of another 2020 and you've got the strong possibility that the verdict was made long before deliberations started.

[Buug959]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

The political pressure was way too strong in the end. Couple that with the possibility of another 2020 and you've got the strong possibility that the verdict was made long before deliberations started.

I expect the deliberations were just to get the jury's ducks in a row for the judge. He was probably guilty in every juror's mind before they left the courtroom.

[rebekahb]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

The political pressure was way too strong in the end. Couple that with the possibility of another 2020 and you've got the strong possibility that the verdict was made long before deliberations started.

I agree Sedan. I would also assume that the jurors were extremely worried about what would happen to them/their families if they didn't return a guilty verdict. I didn't follow any part of it but don't envy the heavy weight that fell on everyone's shoulders who were part of the trial.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by rebekahb

I agree Sedan. I would also assume that the jurors were extremely worried about what would happen to them/their families if they didn't return a guilty verdict. I didn't follow any part of it but don't envy the heavy weight that fell on everyone's shoulders who were part of the trial.

Given the comments made by political leaders you have a point.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by rebekahb

I agree Sedan. I would also assume that the jurors were extremely worried about what would happen to them/their families if they didn't return a guilty verdict. I didn't follow any part of it but don't envy the heavy weight that fell on everyone's shoulders who were part of the trial.

Originally Posted by Murf993

Given the comments made by political leaders you have a point.

Yeah she does. I would not be surprised, especially considering a pig's head was left at one of the juror's residences. You can't make this stuff up. It's unfortunate we're dealing with this.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Yeah she does. I would not be surprised, especially considering a pig's head was left at one of the juror's residences. You can't make this stuff up. It's unfortunate we're dealing with this.

There are lots of grounds for appeal. Many came from the actual trial, but the outside interference is challenging. How do you have a fair trail when there is clearly security issues for anyone who may sit on the jury.

So some folks got the conviction they wanted, it may or may not be overturned because of the legal issues/arguments from the evidence or because of interference. I'm not sure how you call this a fair trail and just verdict when there are many things that may have influenced it. The officer may become a sacrificial lamb. I just don't have the sense that justice was served.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Murf993

There are lots of grounds for appeal. Many came from the actual trial, but the outside interference is challenging. How do you have a fair trail when there is clearly security issues for anyone who may sit on the jury.

I would love to have been a fly on the wall in that juror room.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I would love to have been a fly on the wall in that juror room.

In my previous roll working at the coroners office I was attached to the Inquest unit, one of my duties was to pick jury's for inquests. I also was responsible for their security and would stay with them through the whole process, (not deliberations obviously). Some of the cases were quite long and complex and I got to know many jurors well and am friends with a number of them now, years later. I will tell you that I have some very interesting insights and that some juries in high profile cases feel enormous political pressures.

[F30lolz]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I would love to have been a fly on the wall in that juror room.

Jurors: let’s just find Chauvin guilty on all charges so Sedan_Clan will have more time answering redundant questions on bimmerpost instead of getting ready for civil unrest.

Jurors: Agreed.


Back on topic now, what’s the most you’ve been bribed with to let someone go?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Murf993

In my previous roll working at the coroners office I was attached to the Inquest unit, one of my duties was to pick jury's for inquests. I also was responsible for their security and would stay with them through the whole process, (not deliberations obviously). Some of the cases were quite long and complex and I got to know many jurors well and am friends with a number of them now, years later. I will tell you that I have some very interesting insights and that some juries in high profile cases feel enormous political pressures.

Any stories you can share, even if vague in content?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by F30lolz

Jurors: let's just find Chauvin guilty on all charges so Sedan_Clan will have more time answering redundant questions on bimmerpost instead of getting ready for civil unrest.

Jurors: Agreed.


Back on topic now, what's the most you've been bribed with to let someone go?

Funny!


Let's see....


...I've been offered fellatio multiple times and I've also been offered money. One of the fellatio offerings is on body worn camera footage too.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Any stories you can share, even if vague in content?

I did the Ashley Smith inquest. She died in federal prison. It was a complete shit show. 113 Days of evidence over the course of a year. I had to take the whole inquest, lawyers (13 of them), media, Crown attorney, court reporter, Coroner and jury to a federal women's pen. A bit of planning from a security point of view. Trying to maintain a secure situation with not undue influence on the jury was very challenging.

The other issues that were interesting was dealing with the sensitive nature of the evidence. Ms Smith died at her own hand, she was a self harmer using mostly ligatures, because it occurred so often Corrections usually video taped it. Her death was captured on video, as a result of that and then the visit to her cell and all of the other trauma I also found myself dealing with PTSD issues of the jury. The resulting verdict of the jury has changed put in place many changes in Corrections Canada, no more segregation among other things.

Another inquest I did I had to charter airlines and fly the entire inquest into a remote fly-in community on the shores of James Bay in the sub-arctic. Everyone there has a hunting rifle and were pissed off. Another security nightmare.

I'm going to pour another rum now.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Funny!


Let's see....


...I've been offered fellatio multiple times and I've also been offered money. One of the fellatio offerings is on body worn camera footage too.

Fellatio is a common offer isn't it. Hardly ever money though.

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

...I've been offered fellatio multiple times and I've also been offered money. One of the fellatio offerings is on body worn camera footage too.

But none from women, right?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Murf993

I did the Ashley Smith inquest. She died in federal prison. It was a complete shit show. 113 Days of evidence over the course of a year. I had to take the whole inquest, lawyers (13 of them), media, Crown attorney, court reporter, Coroner and jury to a federal women's pen. A bit of planning from a security point of view. Trying to maintain a secure situation with not undue influence on the jury was very challenging.

The other issues that were interesting was dealing with the sensitive nature of the evidence. Ms Smith died at her own hand, she was a self harmer using mostly ligatures, because it occurred so often Corrections usually video taped it. Her death was captured on video, as a result of that and then the visit to her cell and all of the other trauma I also found myself dealing with PTSD issues of the jury. The resulting verdict of the jury has changed put in place many changes in Corrections Canada, no more segregation among other things.

Another inquest I did I had to charter airlines and fly the entire inquest into a remote fly-in community on the shores of James Bay in the sub-arctic. Everyone there has a hunting rifle and were pissed off. Another security nightmare.

I'm going to pour another rum now.

It's interesting in the current case that video can seemingly be presented that contradicts how a person feels emotionally (...e.g., the video that showed Chauvin wasn't on Floyd's neck; I didn't watch the trial, but I'm referring to all of the media reports), yet, the person(s) still vote(s) emotionally despite the evidence. It's trying times.

Originally Posted by Murf993

Fellatio is a common offer isn't it. Hardly ever money though.

The unfortunate truth.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

But none from women, right?

You get it from the drunk women with vomit breath. Lol!

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

You get it from the drunk women with vomit breath. Lol!

I worked in the gay village for years as well as the entertainment district. I got offers from the whole spectrum of colours if you catch my drift.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Murf993

I worked in the gay village for years as well as the entertainment district. I got offers from the whole spectrum of colours if you catch my drift.

If I worked in San Francisco I might be subject to such offerings more often. Lol!


Did you guys happen to see this Floyd interaction? Eerily similar behavior from him.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMe9tcDWK/

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

If I worked in San Francisco I might be subject to such offerings more often. Lol!


Did you guys happen to see this Floyd interaction? Eerily similar behavior from him.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMe9tcDWK/

I'm shocked.

[rebekahb]

I don't know if this has been asked before but I just got one so curious. Red light camera on the street. I was speeding. Wasn't going to fast over and they snapped a pic and sent me a $75 violation. Well, I got one back in 2013 or 2014. They sent me a letter that says if you choose to pay. Well, I chose not to. They sent me letters and then to collections. Only knew that because when I went to get my mortgage they asked me about it. The guy laughed and said it wouldn't hurt (only $110). I don't recall my license getting flagged for not paying. Do y'all have these in CA & if so what happens to people who don't pay out there?