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      06-10-2023, 11:56 AM   #221
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Big fan of Matt. He really seems to have fun doing his reviews.
Agreed. He's just a car enthusiast with a channel. He deserves more subs but he doesn't do shenanigans to drive views and clicks. I'm happy to give him the car to help the channel. He doesn't get BMW stuff because they won't send it to him in the Pittsburgh area.
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Agreed. He's just a car enthusiast with a channel. He deserves more subs but he doesn't do shenanigans to drive views and clicks. I'm happy to give him the car to help the channel. He doesn't get BMW stuff because they won't send it to him in the Pittsburgh area.
You the man. Looking forward to his review
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Are you talking about wet performance? I thought that video otherwise established the star spec tires as being superior in every other way?

I have 285/35/19 and 295/30/20s coming which unfortunately aren't available in star spec.
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Are you talking about wet performance? I thought that video otherwise established the star spec tires as being superior in every other way?

I have 285/35/19 and 295/30/20s coming which unfortunately aren't available in star spec.
This.

I've seen this video before, and the star spec is far superior in the dry. He was 2s faster than the non-star spec tires. He has another video where IIRC he tests the star spec MPSS against the newer MPS4S and in that test the non-star spec newer MPS4S was faster than the star spec old MPSS.
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Are you talking about wet performance? I thought that video otherwise established the star spec tires as being superior in every other way?

I have 285/35/19 and 295/30/20s coming which unfortunately aren't available in star spec.
Your new tire supplier with the Military discount doesn’t carry the Star spec Michelins or are you saying the slightly wider tire isn’t made in any Star spec?
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Your new tire supplier with the Military discount doesn’t carry the Star spec Michelins or are you saying the slightly wider tire isn’t made in any Star spec?

I'm saying the slightly wider aren't made in star spec. Mercedes and Porsche and a few others have specs in those sizes, but not BMW.
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Yes for sure. The star spec is praised as “closer to the Cup2” which is detrimental. This isn’t a fair weather care, especially in the Northwest where I live and it rains in the fall/winter 6 days a week.

Star spec seems to have been geared towards “lap times”, which are done in the dry.

I suspect the star spec Michelin is as useless as the Star spec Pirelli.
I see where you're coming from. Thanks!
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Yeah on that road trip I had some rain. I didn't find them too bad, we'll see if I'm capable of detecting a difference.

I'm on a road trip through Thursday, we'll see if I hit rain during it as well. Going down the Blue Ridge Parkway and such.
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Wondering how that’s applicable to what I was saying, if at all…
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I might change them when time comes with the non-star spec Michelin PS4S, since tyre reviews tested and confirmed the star spec are worse than the non-star. The non-star spec might be cheaper too.
When asked for a source, the video you posted literally contradicts your statement.
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Installed M Performance HAS with just a 15mm drop (10mm is BMW recommended if port installed). Very subtle but noticeable difference, IMO. No degradation in ride quality at all either, that I can tell. Also have 12mm spacer up front and 15mm in back.

Before/stock (top) and after (bottom).

Also highlights how different lighting really shifts the way Brooklyn Grey appears.
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Just to put an end to it, here’s a snapshot of the video I posted, which corroborates my statement and suspicion.
So your example of how well an "Ultra-High Performance" tire performs on a "M car" is to post its time in the wet?

You understand this is a performance car which is why you put UHP tires on it in the first place. Dry handling is what matters.
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Installed M Performance HAS with just a 15mm drop (10mm is BMW recommended if port installed). Very subtle but noticeable difference, IMO. No degradation in ride quality at all either, that I can tell. Also have 12mm spacer up front and 15mm in back.

Before/stock (top) and after (bottom).

Also highlights how different lighting really shifts the way Brooklyn Grey appears.

I think the weather played a bigger role on how the BG looks between your two pictures (sunny vs wet/rain/clouds).
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So your example of how well an "Ultra-High Performance" tire performs on a "M car" is to post its time in the wet?

You understand this is a performance car which is why you put UHP tires on it in the first place. Dry handling is what matters.

I would add to dry how it perdirms in sry with warmer/hot temps.
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Yes for sure. The star spec is praised as “closer to the Cup2” which is detrimental. This isn’t a fair weather care, especially in the Northwest where I live and it rains in the fall/winter 6 days a week.

Star spec seems to have been geared towards “lap times”, which are done in the dry.

I suspect the star spec Michelin is as useless as the Star spec Pirelli.
I had the “opportunity” to drive the Michelins through an intense thunderstorm with hail and near zero visibility on I80 Indiana bound for Chicago. Was pissed that I might get hail damage and relieved when it was ok. The Michelins did very well. Of course they only had about 800 miles on them, so we’ll see what happens as they wear.
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After getting partial PPF and tints/windshield done, took it up South Mountain to get a little twisty practice in. Not a place to push it. I assume bicyclists around every blind turn, but an enjoyable drive for sure.
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After getting partial PPF and tints/windshield done, took it up South Mountain to get a little twisty practice in. Not a place to push it. I assume bicyclists around every blind turn, but an enjoyable drive for sure.
Ya you gotta watch for bikes for sure on there. I live down at the base of it as well. If you want some fun twistys head up north a bit and hit the old 89a between Flag and Sedona. Definitely some fun switch backs. Mine can't get here soon enough...
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Installed M Performance HAS with just a 15mm drop (10mm is BMW recommended if port installed). Very subtle but noticeable difference, IMO. No degradation in ride quality at all either, that I can tell. Also have 12mm spacer up front and 15mm in back.

Before/stock (top) and after (bottom).

Also highlights how different lighting really shifts the way Brooklyn Grey appears.
Can you please share more pics of the Brooklyn grey with m mirror cap&spoiler
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Ya you gotta watch for bikes for sure on there. I live down at the base of it as well. If you want some fun twistys head up north a bit and hit the old 89a between Flag and Sedona. Definitely some fun switch backs. Mine can't get here soon enough...
Did that drive years ago with a rental Camry. Would love to do it with my M2. Need to pick off-peak times. Also need to plan a Devil’s Highway trip.
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      06-12-2023, 03:55 PM   #240
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Can you please share more pics of the Brooklyn grey with m mirror cap&spoiler
Will do once I get the chance. Need to take some.

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Will do once I get the chance. Need to take some.

All I have right now is the other side profile.
Thank you. Looking forward to.
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