Home Security Cameras

P1 · 01-18-2019, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by zx10guy

Are you still dealing with Frankie?

You bet!

P1 · 01-18-2019, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by djsaad1

Do they still have the smart features like line crossing detection, scene change, etc...? I use blue iris for motion either way, but just curious.

The camera has built-in motion detection, face detection, intrusion detection and line crossing detection.

That being said, my NVR software does all that for me so I currently don't take advantage of in-camera intelligence.

dsad1 · 01-19-2019, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by P1et

This particular location had a 3MP previously. The quality difference is very, very noticeable compared to this 6MP.

I’ll post some 3MP vs 6MP screenshots tomorrow.

I went back through all the cameras to check how I set them up. I see now that only two of the outdoor cameras are 1080p, the ones that are not as important. The rest were left at 3MP.

There are 18 cameras that are recording 24/7 with 6 month retention, I try to save as much disk space as I can.

P1 · 01-19-2019, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by djsaad1

I went back through all the cameras to check how I set them up. I see now that only two of the outdoor cameras are 1080p, the ones that are not as important. The rest were left at 3MP.

There are 18 cameras that are recording 24/7 with 6 month retention, I try to save as much disk space as I can.

That makes sense. When running that many cameras, and having a six-month retention policy, then recording in 6MP would require quite a bit of disk space...

dsad1 · 01-19-2019, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by P1et

That makes sense. When running that many cameras, and having a six-month retention policy, then recording in 6MP would require quite a bit of disk space...

The retention is most likely overkill. That being said, I walked out this morning and someone at the neighbors house was being arrested... We just moved in a few months ago, haven't met those neighbors yet.

P1 · 01-19-2019, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by djsaad1

The retention is most likely overkill. That being said, I walked out this morning and someone at the neighbors house was being arrested... We just moved in a few months ago, haven't met those neighbors yet.

Time for a 4K PTZ!

dsad1 · 01-19-2019, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by P1et

Time for a 4K PTZ!

I do wish that I went with ptz on a couple of them. They are placed near the roof and I get freaked out messing with them while on that tall of a ladder. I have one that should be turned more to the right but have been procrastinating to go up there and reposition it.

P1 · 01-19-2019, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by djsaad1

I do wish that I went with ptz on a couple of them. They are placed near the roof and I get freaked out messing with them while on that tall of a ladder. I have one that should be turned more to the right but have been procrastinating to go up there and reposition it.

Trust me. I installed the easy ones. But the ones that required serious ladders, I had my AV guys do those.

dsad1 · 01-19-2019, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by P1et

Trust me. I installed the easy ones. But the ones that required serious ladders, I had my AV guys do those.

They physically nstalled them, but I didn't want them touching the network and software, so I had to get up there to reposition them.

dsad1 · 01-20-2019, 09:44 AM

Any recommendations for wireless indoor cameras? The hikvision cubes are starting to get flaky, they have also been dropped a few times.

Is foscam or equivalent still that bad?

P1 · 01-20-2019, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by djsaad1

Any recommendations for wireless indoor cameras? The hikvision cubes are starting to get flaky, they have also been dropped a few times.

Is foscam or equivalent still that bad?

I was going to say the Hikvision cubes, but it sounds like those aren't working for you. Any reason why you can't wire them and power them via PoE since you need a power cable in any regard?

P1 · 07-30-2019, 10:18 AM

zx10guy I am looking for some direct burial terminated cat6 cabling. Anything you can recommend?

zx10guy · 07-30-2019, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by P1et

zx10guy I am looking for some direct burial terminated cat6 cabling. Anything you can recommend?

I don't have anything in mind off hand. Having a conduit and running the cabling inside isn't an option?

P1 · 07-30-2019, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by zx10guy

I don't have anything in mind off hand. Having a conduit and running the cabling inside isn't an option?

I have a spare drop by my deck, and want to extend it to my patio. I think I'll probably need 150 or so feet of cat6 to make the run. I was hoping I can just throw down some direct burial instead of having to get out the conduit and start digging.

zx10guy · 07-30-2019, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by P1et

I have a spare drop by my deck, and want to extend it to my patio. I think I'll probably need 150 or so feet of cat6 to make the run. I was hoping I can just throw down some direct burial instead of having to get out the conduit and start digging.

Would something such as this work? It's a bit pricey but you're pretty much guaranteed there wouldn't be any problems.

https://www.amazon.com/Armored-Outdo...E0H676BEGW6VNW

P1 · 07-30-2019, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by zx10guy

Would something such as this work? It's a bit pricey but you're pretty much guaranteed there wouldn't be any problems.

https://www.amazon.com/Armored-Outdo...E0H676BEGW6VNW

I actually was looking at this one...

https://www.amazon.com/Ethernet-Shin...-2-spons&psc=1

zx10guy · 07-30-2019, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by P1et

I actually was looking at this one...

https://www.amazon.com/Ethernet-Shin...-2-spons&psc=1

I linked the one I did because I felt having an armoured outer jacket would be something good to have to prevent accidental splicing of the cable if digging was done around it. And also to prevent critters from chewing on the cable where it's exposed.

Yapakanichi · 08-14-2019, 07:45 AM

So I've been having some trouble with people driving on my yard and was looking at some of the home security camera systems. I can't get a good read on whether this brand or that brand is good.

So I figured one of you guys might have some insight into this.

I want something that I can monitor the front and sides of the house for now. I think x4 90degree POV cameras will do.

MDX, POE, IP, wireless, wired....my head is spinning.

King Rudi · 08-14-2019, 08:03 AM

A friend of mine and I install home security camera systems as a side gig. We basically install whatever the customer wants, but we do more POE than anything. We tell our customers to get their camera system from amazon or Sam's club and we do everything else. We have installed a lot of these systems.

https://www.amazon.com/Swann-Camera-...gateway&sr=8-3

Easy install and we have yet to have any technical issues. You can get a cheaper version without 2-way audio. There is also an app to where you can watch a live feed on your smart phone or tablet as long as you have a data connection.

Not that I need to tell you, but just a suggestion; carefully plan what you intend to capture when considering location/POV of the cameras. If your intent is to capture the license plates, you may never get a solid capture of numbers/letters based off a moving vehicle, depends on the speed they are traveling. Shop around, find a system that meets your budget, with the number of cameras that you need, and if you have any questions (on the system or installation), pm me.

m630 · 08-14-2019, 09:51 AM

I had a Lorex POE system installed earlier this year and it works great with a great app. 8.5mp cams in 4K UHD are crystal clear. They have great night capabilities too in full color as long as thete is ambient lighting available. Good luck

UncleWede · 08-14-2019, 11:07 AM

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I have an existing 2-camera system that has pretty good placement in terms of coverage, but the clarity isn't there. Since I already invested to have someone pull wiring, I'm pretty much stuck with the BNC/power options, although I've recently seen that there are still a ton of those with greatly improved camera optics. Just haven't pulled the trigger on replacement cameras/DVR. I don't need audio.

The existing system, I KNOW that fauqer when I see him walk up his driveway across the street, after parking another vehicle he is repairing on the street. But no plates. I can't even legitimately read the door panel on the tow truck that drops the vehicle. And I've seen there are newer systems where I could block the trees moving in the wind from activating recording.

I'm not interested in monitoring from my phone, just when I get home.

Recently had perfect video evidence of this yahoo who was working across the street. Went to park, backed up and pulled my mailbox down the side of the truck. He got out, looked at it, and the mailbox stayed on the post so he just went about his business. The mailbox was only held in place by a few threads and gravity when I got home. Submitted the video to the water company (who hired him to do repairs) and they paid for the materials I used to replace the post.

corn18 · 08-14-2019, 11:21 AM

Nest cams for us (4x outdoor, 4x indoor). + nest doorbell and nest locks. All play nicely together and incredibly easy to install and setup.

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dsad1 Colonel 1215 Rep 2,404 Posts Drives: car Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Any recommendations for wireless indoor cameras? The hikvision cubes are starting to get flaky, they have also been dropped a few times. Is foscam or equivalent still that bad?
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P1 Lieutenant General 11735 Rep 11,191 Posts Drives: 2004 3/4 ton Duramax Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States iTrader: (1)	zx10guy I am looking for some direct burial terminated cat6 cabling. Anything you can recommend?
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08-14-2019, 07:45 AM	#238
Yapakanichi Monkey Marshall 648 Rep 218 Posts Drives: 2005 Z4 3.0i Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	Home Security Camera Systems So I've been having some trouble with people driving on my yard and was looking at some of the home security camera systems. I can't get a good read on whether this brand or that brand is good. So I figured one of you guys might have some insight into this. I want something that I can monitor the front and sides of the house for now. I think x4 90degree POV cameras will do. MDX, POE, IP, wireless, wired....my head is spinning.
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King Rudi Lieutenant Colonel 13072 Rep 1,965 Posts Drives: Meat Suit Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Planet Earth iTrader: (0)	A friend of mine and I install home security camera systems as a side gig. We basically install whatever the customer wants, but we do more POE than anything. We tell our customers to get their camera system from amazon or Sam's club and we do everything else. We have installed a lot of these systems. https://www.amazon.com/Swann-Camera-...gateway&sr=8-3 Easy install and we have yet to have any technical issues. You can get a cheaper version without 2-way audio. There is also an app to where you can watch a live feed on your smart phone or tablet as long as you have a data connection. Not that I need to tell you, but just a suggestion; carefully plan what you intend to capture when considering location/POV of the cameras. If your intent is to capture the license plates, you may never get a solid capture of numbers/letters based off a moving vehicle, depends on the speed they are traveling. Shop around, find a system that meets your budget, with the number of cameras that you need, and if you have any questions (on the system or installation), pm me.
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m630 Major 1020 Rep 1,019 Posts Drives: '22 X4M Comp / ‘24 X3 / f136 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: nyc/li iTrader: (0) Garage List ‘22 X4MC [0.00]	I had a Lorex POE system installed earlier this year and it works great with a great app. 8.5mp cams in 4K UHD are crystal clear. They have great night capabilities too in full color as long as thete is ambient lighting available. Good luck
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08-14-2019, 11:07 AM	#241
UncleWede Long Time Admirer, First Time Owner 18452 Rep 9,428 Posts Drives: G01 X3 M40i Dark Graphite Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oxnard, CA iTrader: (0)	Sub'd I have an existing 2-camera system that has pretty good placement in terms of coverage, but the clarity isn't there. Since I already invested to have someone pull wiring, I'm pretty much stuck with the BNC/power options, although I've recently seen that there are still a ton of those with greatly improved camera optics. Just haven't pulled the trigger on replacement cameras/DVR. I don't need audio. The existing system, I KNOW that fauqer when I see him walk up his driveway across the street, after parking another vehicle he is repairing on the street. But no plates. I can't even legitimately read the door panel on the tow truck that drops the vehicle. And I've seen there are newer systems where I could block the trees moving in the wind from activating recording. I'm not interested in monitoring from my phone, just when I get home. Recently had perfect video evidence of this yahoo who was working across the street. Went to park, backed up and pulled my mailbox down the side of the truck. He got out, looked at it, and the mailbox stayed on the post so he just went about his business. The mailbox was only held in place by a few threads and gravity when I got home. Submitted the video to the water company (who hired him to do repairs) and they paid for the materials I used to replace the post.
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08-14-2019, 11:21 AM	#242
corn18 Captain 1723 Rep 618 Posts Drives: 2020 X3 M40i Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: SW OH iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 Jeep Wrangler 2D [0.00] 2015 Chevy 2500HD [0.00] 2015 Z4 [0.00] 2020 X3 M40i [0.00]	Nest cams for us (4x outdoor, 4x indoor). + nest doorbell and nest locks. All play nicely together and incredibly easy to install and setup.
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