[moodyhank82]

Originally Posted by uk01685

Mark your calendars for January 23rd. No insider info here, just a Christmas revelation. We'll see if it pays to go to church on Christmas ��.

I heard the Jan 23rd date today for the first allocations from my SA as well.

[Sethhboii]

Originally Posted by moodyhank82

I heard the Jan 23rd date today for the first allocations from my SA as well.

I will not get my hopes up!

[fanofbmwe46]

I was getting worried about a crazy long delay with M2 allocations so started looking at buying a lightly used M3/M4. Came across this one and was about to jump on it given the MSRP option list. But after some back and forth with the dealer I was able to confirm it was a car from the Performance Center. It’s not a CPO and given it’s been tracked hard, I think I’m going to pass.
https://www.ipacket.info/WBS53AZ04MCF85672

[calbears]

Originally Posted by fanofbmwe46

I was getting worried about a crazy long delay with M2 allocations so started looking at buying a lightly used M3/M4. Came across this one and was about to jump on it given the MSRP option list. But after some back and forth with the dealer I was able to confirm it was a car from the Performance Center. It’s not a CPO and given it’s been tracked hard, I think I’m going to pass.
https://www.ipacket.info/WBS53AZ04MCF85672

don't believe that's an actual performance center car as it's manual. It was a BMW NA car, registered in New Jersey, so it could have been a demo

[fanofbmwe46]

Originally Posted by calbears

don't believe that's an actual performance center car as it's manual. It was a BMW NA car, registered in New Jersey, so it could have been a demo

Performance center cars are titled to BMW corporate in NJ. They are often equipped with carbon ceramics and m drivers pack. And often sold at southern region dealers with about 2K miles on them. It’s a hot lap car driven by instructors. I visited last year and while I drove automatics, an instructor took me out for a hot lap in a G80 M3 manual.
Here is another with same equipment and about the same mileage at the same dealer also titled to bmw corporate in NJ:

https://www.ipacket.info/WBS53AZ00MCF85684

[calbears]

Originally Posted by fanofbmwe46

Performance center cars are titled to BMW corporate in NJ. They are often equipped with carbon ceramics and m drivers pack. And often sold at southern region dealers with about 2K miles on them. It’s a hot lap car driven by instructors. I visited last year and while I drove automatics, an instructor took me out for a hot lap in a G80 M3 manual.
Here is another with same equipment and about the same mileage at the same dealer also titled to bmw corporate in NJ:

https://www.ipacket.info/WBS53AZ00MCF85684

True on titled/registered to BMW USA in New Jersey. Didn't think they had manuals as they haven't appeared as school cars since the days of the 1M.

[uk01685]

I was getting worried about a crazy long delay with M2 allocations so started looking at buying a lightly used M3/M4. Came across this one and was about to jump on it given the MSRP option list. But after some back and forth with the dealer I was able to confirm it was a car from the Performance Center. It’s not a CPO and given it’s been tracked hard, I think I’m going to pass.
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Please stop... everyone, don't forsake the new M2...the allocations and the cars will be here very soon, relatively speaking. You will not be disappointed. Just keep up the faith!

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by fanofbmwe46

Performance center cars are titled to BMW corporate in NJ. They are often equipped with carbon ceramics and m drivers pack. And often sold at southern region dealers with about 2K miles on them. It’s a hot lap car driven by instructors. I visited last year and while I drove automatics, an instructor took me out for a hot lap in a G80 M3 manual.
Here is another with same equipment and about the same mileage at the same dealer also titled to bmw corporate in NJ:

https://www.ipacket.info/WBS53AZ00MCF85684

FYI, PC cars have more far than 2000 miles placed on them prior to being rotated out, gone through and sent to auction. Each and every PC vehicle goes through the proper break-in period before being placed into PC service as well. The PC tends to be keep for them 6000 to 8000 miles, but there are some supply variables that play a factor with that.

[fanofbmwe46]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

FYI, PC cars have more far than 2000 miles placed on them prior to being rotated out, gone through and sent to auction. Each and every PC vehicle goes through the proper break-in period before being placed into PC service as well. The PC tends to be keep for them 6000 to 8000 miles, but there are some supply variables that play a factor with that.

Interesting. Dealer confirmed “it was used at Performance Center” in his last email to me before I passed on it.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by fanofbmwe46

Interesting. Dealer confirmed “it was used at Performance Center” in his last email to me before I passed on it.

I cannot see them getting rid of the car so soon after break-in. Performance center employees take new vehicles that are being rotated in for a weekend and put on those break in miles.

[BRAKE!]

When I was at the M school, the head instructor actually gave all of us a run down of the sales of the M cars after they are done their duties - apparently the mechanics and engineers at the PC (who are top notch) will thoroughly maintain and replace every single part needed to make the car tip top again. They really stand by the refurbishing process, all come with warranty IIRC.

However, I also witnessed 2 M cars breakdown due to some ppl launching the hell out of them and shifting wildly at the school (one was like 19 years old and frequently went off the track)

[Caerus]

Originally Posted by calbears

don't believe that's an actual performance center car as it's manual. It was a BMW NA car, registered in New Jersey, so it could have been a demo

Agreed. When I picked up my G42 M240ix in April Mike Renner one of the lead instructors told me they don't use manual transmissions any more on the track. He said the students kept tearing up the clutchs and replacement became costly. Everyone can drive a automatic and they take lot's of abuse.

TUD is correct they follow break-in procedures and the instructors drive them on the street until they hit 1,200 miles. Then they join the track car fleet.

This is not a PCD car that they drive on the track. Also, the carfax said this car was put into service almost two years ago this March, only about 100 miles per month. PCD track duty will do that in a day or two. Once again dealers probably not giving out all the facts.

[fanofbmwe46]

Not sure why the dealer would lie about it being a PC car. He also said it was “used at the factory”.. whatever that means. He said break in service was done at 830 miles and 1yr service was done at 1400 miles.

Anyways we can end the convo on this. Didn’t mean to go off topic for more than a post since there had been some possibility of M2 allocations being delayed but seems maybe next week is the week they will start to be announced here in the US.

[Rx-7ames]

Am I the idiot for thinking that 2,000 hard track miles still isn't a big deal? My guess is that the PC cars are very well maintained and inspected constantly. I would buy this. But then again, maybe I'm the idiot.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

Am I the idiot for thinking that 2,000 hard track miles still isn't a big deal? My guess is that the PC cars are very well maintained and inspected constantly. I would buy this. But then again, maybe I'm the idiot.

They also have PPF installed as well. It is typically removed prior to auction though.

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by calbears

don't believe that's an actual performance center car as it's manual. It was a BMW NA car, registered in New Jersey, so it could have been a demo

When did they quit doing manuals at the PC? I’ve driven more than one there, though the last time was in 2008 so I’m way out of date.

[calbears]

Originally Posted by KevinC

When did they quit doing manuals at the PC? I’ve driven more than one there, though the last time was in 2008 so I’m way out of date.

My guess is it was the 1 series M that was the last manual car there, so 2012 was probably it

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

Am I the idiot for thinking that 2,000 hard track miles still isn't a big deal? My guess is that the PC cars are very well maintained and inspected constantly. I would buy this. But then again, maybe I'm the idiot.

Stay very far away from PC cars - go do a PC day or equivalent M track day and see how they're treated. That's day in and day out mostly people who really don't know how to drive.

[T_U_D]

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[02M3ForMe]

Tomorrow is the rumored date of first allocations in the US. Looking forward to putting that to rest one way or the other.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by 02M3ForMe

Tomorrow is the rumored date of first allocations in the US. Looking forward to putting that to rest one way or the other.

You might want to go catch up to the recent events in this thread. https://g42.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...917522&page=42

[02M3ForMe]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

You might want to go catch up to the recent events in this thread. https://g42.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...917522&page=42

Interesting.

If it is the case that the first customer-configurable US allocations are hitting much closer to the April launch, it’s time to concede that production of non-demo cars has in fact been delayed by several months as indicated by the guys on Facebook a couple of weeks ago.

Back in October, after the official reveal and when the start of production was confirmed to be 12/2022, the expectation was that these allocations were coming last year, with actual deliveries starting in the Spring/April. That schedule is in line with practically every other launch, including both the G42 and G80/82 launches. First non-HEA US allocations in the Spring represents a huge delay.