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      12-01-2024, 02:09 PM   #221
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Wow, Max saying some hard words in the post race interview about RUS screwing him over during the slow lap qualifying debacle...(and why he drove slowly there, to give 2 cars in front of him a chance to get a good qualifying lap)
And the sky presenters contemplating about if Max is a driver that is likely to forget something like this of if he has a memory of an elephant..... They should ask Checo
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Poor 'ol Lando needs to be sharper with the little things catching him out.
Lando is (still)! a joyrider ...

Love Lando , hopefully next season he's ready for the real thing and his Papaya Team too.

But as we know , there can be only one . The 1 !
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That is the big difference between Lando and Max (well, most drivers and Max).

When something happens, something that is out of the ordinairy, Max is the least likely to make mistakes and most likely to profit from that situation.
He is just so much in control. And RB as a team too.
Max is just better in situations like coping with cold tyres at a SC restart, or if it starts to rain, when to come in and for what tyre etc etc.
Pure racecraft. Pure skill.

Lando is only quick when everything goes to plan, the car is good and nothing strange happens.
Even today when he got that stop&go penalty and was flying to make up time, there were moments that he got off track.
+1 on all that.
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Wow, Max saying some hard words in the post race interview about RUS screwing him over during the slow lap qualifying debacle...(and why he drove slowly there, to give 2 cars in front of him a chance to get a good qualifying lap)
And the sky presenters contemplating about if Max is a driver that is likely to forget something like this of if he has a memory of an elephant..... They should ask Checo
For sure things like this MAX remembers, RUS shouldn't have done that.
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For sure things like this MAX remembers, RUS shouldn't have done that.
It was this my friend => https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=136
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Just as worse even with Herbert not there and stewards having cloth ears with MAX's truthful explanation.
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Mate , WTF is wrong with your LEW ?
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Lando is (still)! a joyrider ...

Love Lando , hopefully next season he's ready for the real thing and his Papaya Team too.

But as we know , there can be only one . The 1 !
Formation lap gone but for me it's the drive back to the other place shortly to miss the A3 queue traffic to the M25
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      12-01-2024, 02:31 PM   #229
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Mate , WTF is wrong with your LEW ?
'goat' even wanted to retire the race.....apparently 45 million/year is not enough to drive a few hours per 2 weeks on average....
always drama with that guy...
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'goat' even wanted to retire the race.....apparently 45 million/year is not enough to drive a few hours per 2 weeks on average....
always drama with that guy...
Yeah . I couldn't agree more . LEW is the ultimate drama queen .
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Hammy currently gets something like 50 million/year to drive that Mercedes.
That should be enough Mojo to give his best in both the Mercedes or next year in the Ferrari (for $100 million'/year or whatever it is)

Not that long ago, Yuki only got $750k/ year and he always gives his best. He was the lowest paid driver together with Sargeant when he was still driving.
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See guesstimates table below.

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I honestly think the money is just a number at this point. The real motivation is gonna come from within and the desire to win races. I look at the salary numbers and honestly think Charlie is the one who’s delivering the biggest $ to results ratio there….love him but not sure he’s delivering the results that justify that salary yet.

At the same time Hamilton wouldn’t be more motivated with more money - he’s doubting his abilities now, he’s clearly in a difficult headspace with a really strong drive in Vegas but this was a disaster.

Alonso clearly doesn’t get stuck in that same state of mind but also hasn’t had the success that Hamilton has had.

Undoubtedly this is the Max era now.
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also congrats to zhou!
Fully agreed. Happy for him. I guess that he will consider this Qatar race and the Chinese GP earlier this year (where he got very emotional after parking his car near the start/finish stands after the race) as top memories of his F1 career.

Driver Of The Day: it's nice that there is a place under the sun for everyone.

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According to Ted Kravitz Max yesterday said something to Russel after he was reported to the FIA regarding the slow lap debacle, in the like of "F#ck you and your FIA buddies!"...

George Russel is of course director of the Grand Prix Drivers Association, and has therefore in that sense a place on the board/in the vote of the FIA
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I look at the salary numbers and honestly think Charlie is the one who’s delivering the biggest $ to results ratio there….love him but not sure he’s delivering the results that justify that salary yet.
Depends on how you look at it.
Yuki has 30 points. If he makes $1 million, that's just over $33k per point as salary costs.

Charlie makes supposedly $34 million. with currently 341 points, thats $100k per point

I think Yuki is hard to beat and is very much underpaid, he should at least make 3 times as much
Hulkenburg is also vastly underpaid.
And Lando is currently only getting $57k per point, so quite a bargain, but for that you loose the WDC despite giving him the fastest car for most part of the year.
Cheapest is probably Piastri with 6million and 291 points currently, only 20k per point. But again...fastest car, no WDC, and even WCC is still not sure.


of course Max' costs is currently $128k per point, but for that you get the WDC, even in a slower car. So you can't really put a price on that!
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Piastri got summoned.

What won't make any difference for him: no further action, a warning, a reprimand, a fine or a 5 second penalty.

What would make a difference for him: 10 second penalty (that would make him drop from P3 to P5) as well as any penalty point.

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According to Ted Kravitz Max yesterday said something to Russel after he was reported to the FIA regarding the slow lap debacle, in the like of "F#ck you and your FIA buddies!"...

George Russel is of course director of the Grand Prix Drivers Association, and has therefore in that sense a place on the board/in the vote of the FIA
Yeah , MAX nailed it about the Russell boy => https://racingnews365.nl/verstappen-...spect-verloren
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Piastri got summoned.

What won't make any difference for him: no further action, a warning, a reprimand, a fine or a 5 second penalty.

What would make a difference for him: 10 second penalty (that would make him drop from P3 to P5) as well as any penalty point.

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What was this about??

Edit - nevermind, that was when he overtook Lewis and snuck round Russell (?) entering the pit lane

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Yeah , MAX nailed it about the Russell boy => https://racingnews365.nl/verstappen-...spect-verloren
"Kan beter oprotten"
Sounds exactly like Max
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Races like this is a disaster for Formula 1. For me, this was the worst race of this season.
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How Max put it in words in the press conference after the race. (clickable for the video)
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Races like this is a disaster for Formula 1. For me, this was the worst race of this season.
Lets hope the FIA learns a lot of lessons from this race.
But I can't say it was boring...the whole race just....suddenly exploded in so many ways...
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