[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

So a person breaks the law.....and it's the officer's fault?!? You exemplify the problem with some aspects of society. What reason can you personally articulate why an open container should've been in the vehicle in the first place?!?

....and they get it, in droves.

Them beer caps in the car are terrible. Almost as bad as beer caps on a ball field, a driveway, whatever!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Littlebear

When most everyone is a criminal, we will have enforcement problems. I don't spit but I do jay walk like most in the People's Republic of Brooklyn do.

An INFRACTION doesn't make one a criminal. Jay walking, however common, still gives an officer probable cause to detain should he/she desire to. Sometimes it leads to nothing, and sometimes it's a bad person jay walking and we get a stat for that arrest. Yay for us!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Littlebear

Them beer caps in the car are terrible. Almost as bad as beer caps on a ball field, a driveway, whatever!

Drink in that driveway and I'm detaining. Drinking in public is a violation of law. The next one I catch is for you Littlebear.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by Littlebear

Them beer caps in the car are terrible. Almost as bad as beer caps on a ball field, a driveway, whatever!

You don’t get it, Murf. You’re a law abiding citizen. A cop sees a beer cap in Your car. You are clean, you’re on your way. What about the asshole that has open warrants, a weapon, drugs, whatever. That cap just got a bad guy off the street.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

You don’t get it, Murf. You’re a law abiding citizen. A cop sees a beer cap in Your car. You are clean, you’re on your way. What about the asshole that has open warrants, a weapon, drugs, whatever. That cap just got a bad guy off the street.

Even with your excellent example he will still fail to see the light......like a leftist vampire.

[4Hockey4]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Drink in that driveway and I'm detaining. Drinking in public is a violation of law. The next one I catch is for you Littlebear.

See thats another one. Folks drink on their property all the time, hell keggers in the county. We need private property laws back. ie I have to wait for a criminal to actually touch down in my house to shoot him....whats the saying, make sure they fall in, not out.

Or someone breaking and entering or destroying my car...society says..awww poor criminal you have insurance. We should be able to protect OUR private property the same way police protect their precinct.

/tangent lol

[Buug959]

Originally Posted by 4Hockey4

Yea good buddy of mine is a Sheriff and we had a laugh about a few cases. Bigger issue is with WHAT you are selling, old things with bad paint, dangerous kid toys etc.

It was many years ago when an obscure law came to light here in NS. A guy was arrested for buying a used firearm at a flea market. That in itself doesn't seem too out of place, except that it turned out that it was illegal to buy a firearm at a flea market but there was no law against selling a firearm at a flea market. It seems to me that the lawmakers messed that one up.

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by 4Hockey4

meh call your officials. Police enforce the law, they don't set it.

We've addressed that simple point a few times before.

[4Hockey4]

Originally Posted by Littlebear

We've addressed that simple point a few times before.

and yet.

[Fly320s]

Wait a second. A beer cap is considered an open container? That doesn't sound right. A cap is not a container.

Does that also apply to beer caps in the bed of a pickup?

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Drink in that driveway and I'm detaining. Drinking in public is a violation of law. The next one I catch is for you Littlebear.

How is drinking on my driveway the same as drinking in public? I'm on private property. That doesn't make any sense.

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by LemansE90335xi

It was many years ago when an obscure law came to light here in NS. A guy was arrested for buying a used firearm at a flea market. That in itself doesn't seem too out of place, except that it turned out that it was illegal to buy a firearm at a flea market but there was no law against selling a firearm at a flea market. It seems to me that the lawmakers messed that one up.

What does the NRA say about fixing that mess up?

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by 4Hockey4

and yet.

Yet what? You forget?

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

Wait a second. A beer cap is considered an open container? That doesn't sound right. A cap is not a container.

Does that also apply to beer caps in the bed of a pickup?

Turn around, put your hands behind your back.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

Wait a second. A beer cap is considered an open container? That doesn't sound right. A cap is not a container.

Does that also apply to beer caps in the bed of a pickup?

The cap itself doesn't constitute an open container, but the cap coupled with other articulable facts can get you in. The bed of the pick-up wouldn't really apply.

Originally Posted by Fly320s

How is drinking on my driveway the same as drinking in public? I'm on private property. That doesn't make any sense.

There's no expectation of privacy outside of your front door. Curtilage laws apply in some cases, but cops typically use the "mailman rule/principle." If the mailman can access it, it's reasonable to believe - and the courts affirm - that you, as the homeowner, have no expectation of privacy in that/those areas.

Onto the drinking....


....city ordinances prohibit drinking in public; that would include your front lawn. With that said, would I typically run up on someone and detain because they are drinking on their porch? No! If I have another lawful reason to be there (...e.g. a call for service), I might cite for it if the person is being an ass.

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

You don’t get it, Murf. You’re a law abiding citizen. A cop sees a beer cap in Your car. You are clean, you’re on your way. What about the asshole that has open warrants, a weapon, drugs, whatever. That cap just got a bad guy off the street.

You don't get it. A cop sees a beer cap (or a seed), and he runs my name, * Murphy. A million outstanding warrants come up for * Murphy (ask me how I know). Not for me, but I'm then guilty until proven innocent.
But getting a mortgage was little easier!

[4Hockey4]

Originally Posted by Littlebear

Yet what? You forget?

nope reminded daily of it.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Littlebear

You don't get it. A cop sees a beer cap (or a seed), and he runs my name, * Murphy. A million outstanding warrants come up for * Murphy (ask me how I know). Not for me, but I'm then guilty until proven innocent.
But getting a mortgage was little easier!

No dillweed! Name alone doesn't make you guilty. If a person's name and DOB match, then we're onto something. I will then pull them up in Cal-Photo to verify. If they've never been issued a California ID/DL, then they're going to the house to get printed.

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Drink in that driveway and I'm detaining. Drinking in public is a violation of law. The next one I catch is for you Littlebear.

Not for me, Clan. Here in the PRofB folks can drink on their stoops, in bags or unmarked containers.
Just be nice & don't disturb.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Drink in that driveway and I'm detaining. Drinking in public is a violation of law. The next one I catch is for you Littlebear.

Meh, I usually grab one or two beers and head out for a walk along the road. It's public but a dead end so not a lot of traffic. How much trouble would I be in Murf993 ?

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Even with your excellent example he will still fail to see the light......like a leftist vampire.

You love the dehumanizing language, eh?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Littlebear

Not for me, Clan. Here in the PRofB folks can drink on their stoops, in bags or unmarked containers.
Just be nice & don't disturb.

Not so fast....