[G30M]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

FTFY

the thing is, i watched the first incident. it's exactly the same as last week. Norris making the pass, got pushed wide, but Norris stays ahead.

Last week they gave Lando the penalty.
then McLaren appealed and got told to FO.

So Max did it again, but this time it's a 10s penalty to Max.

the FIA is confused lol

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by G30M

the thing is, i watched the first incident. it's exactly the same as last week. Norris making the pass, got pushed wide, but Norris stays ahead.

Last week they gave Lando the penalty.
then McLaren appealed and got told to FO.

So Max did it again, but this time it's a 10s penalty to Max.

the FIA is confused lol

Confused and drunk half the time..

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah . That's a true shame for Ferrari !
Ferrari shame on you ...

Congrats SAINZ. Carlito is the man

That’s why you have two #1 drivers who get along. When one stumbles the other picks up the pieces.

Anybody else notice Carlos squeez Charlie at the start? Charlie seemed a bit miffed.

[wizardofOz]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

What happens in a garage at Maranello stays in Maranello, total madness decision.

Reminds me of that song by Joni Mitchell - Big Yellow Taxi, where she sings..."Don't it always seem to go. That you don't know what you've got til it's gone."

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Confused and drunk half the time..

The Ferrari has wings (!)

I mean ...Flexible wings

Congrats Killed by Death

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

That’s why you have two #1 drivers who get along. When one stumbles the other picks up the pieces.

Anybody else notice Carlos squeez Charlie at the start? Charlie seemed a bit miffed.

Yeah . And that won't be like that in 2025 with LEW ..Too bad . The Italians really s@ck !

Carlito is a fantastic Ferrari driver

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Confused and drunk half the time..

LMFAO !!!

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by G30M

the thing is, i watched the first incident. it's exactly the same as last week. Norris making the pass, got pushed wide, but Norris stays ahead.

Last week they gave Lando the penalty.
then McLaren appealed and got told to FO.

So Max did it again, but this time it's a 10s penalty to Max.

the FIA is confused lol

Really weird. Not only gets half the penalty he should have last weekend and the same thing happens this weekend and they give Max the full penalty? How much money was handed over during the appeal by McLaren?? Let’s also take a look at the nationalities of the stewards this week. There should never be any nationalistic bias and it’s clear there is.

[3798j]

Always has been...

[Marcoose]

The Max Factor wasn’t again. Derp.

[E92inNC]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah . And that won't be like that in 2025 with LEW ..Too bad . The Italians really s@ck !

Carlito is a fantastic Ferrari driver

I would have kept Carlos long term with Charles for continuity and I think he’s the better choice for team success in the WCC. He certainly has the skills to be deserving of a seat at one of the top teams. It’s kinda sad to see him going to a bottom feeder but he’s young and in his prime, I’m betting there an opt out in his contract if he’s able to secure a seat at RB, MB or McClaren for 2026… and there always the possibility he returns to Ferrari after Ham’s contract is up.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by Marcoose

The Max Factor wasn’t again. Derp.

If all you can post is this, then it must be really hard for you not being able to cheer for your goat the 3rd year in a row and who's currently only 6th in the wdc....

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The Ferrari has wings (!)

I mean ...Flexible wings

Congrats Killed by Death

I gather RB didn't have them.

[Marcoose]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

If all you can post is this, then it must be really hard for you not being able to cheer for your goat the 3rd year in a row and who's currently only 6th in the wdc....

Hamilton is a legend in many aspects, but his time has passed. He’ll be a midfielder at Ferrari, and hopefully retire soon.

Verstappen is also a legend. But somehow cannot win without a winning car. Not much of a Max Factor. Derp.

[GuidoK]

Bit of a strange definition, as no one can win without a winning car, unless they cross the finishline running by themselves.....
So you're not making any sense....

[RichardInCA]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

Really weird. Not only gets half the penalty he should have last weekend and the same thing happens this weekend and they give Max the full penalty? How much money was handed over during the appeal by McLaren?? Let’s also take a look at the nationalities of the stewards this week. There should never be any nationalistic bias and it’s clear there is.

I’m not sure it’s that weird….when one thinks about the stuff outside of the rule books. Seems like the stewards didn’t want to hand Lando the podium position last week as the result of a questionable pass so they wrapped his knuckles with 5 seconds, kinda thought well Max wasn’t an angel but if we don’t give Lando a 10 sec penalty for track limits then it sorta means we can sleep at night and we’ll write something both-sides-y in the post race memo.

Fast forward to Mexico City, it’s lap 1 - plenty of time for the race to play out and iron out the impacts of a stewards decision early in the race (theoretically) BUT if they rinse/repeated the COTA decision then everyone will be up in arms about the “FIA always favors Max”. My guess is that they wanted to send a louder message than they did in the stewards post-race note from COTA. Either way, the two consecutive corner stuff from Max was kinda blatant - making it very easy for the stewards to come down hard this time. It’s never really been about consistency and precedent setting with FIA, or at least that’s how it appears to me.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by 3798j

Domination...

Smooth operator !!!

[Marcoose]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Bit of a strange definition, as no one can win without a winning car, unless they cross the finishline running by themselves.....
So you're not making any sense....

It makes total sense. There’s no ‘Max’ factor. No winning car, and the champ ends behind the has-been running 6th in the WDC.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by RichardInCA

I’m not sure it’s that weird….when one thinks about the stuff outside of the rule books. Seems like the stewards didn’t want to hand Lando the podium position last week as the result of a questionable pass so they wrapped his knuckles with 5 seconds, kinda thought well Max wasn’t an angel but if we don’t give Lando a 10 sec penalty for track limits then it sorta means we can sleep at night and we’ll write something both-sides-y in the post race memo.

Fast forward to Mexico City, it’s lap 1 - plenty of time for the race to play out and iron out the impacts of a stewards decision early in the race (theoretically) BUT if they rinse/repeated the COTA decision then everyone will be up in arms about the “FIA always favors Max”. My guess is that they wanted to send a louder message than they did in the stewards post-race note from COTA. Either way, the two consecutive corner stuff from Max was kinda blatant - making it very easy for the stewards to come down hard this time. It’s never really been about consistency and precedent setting with FIA, or at least that’s how it appears to me.

Running people off seems SOP from Max. It's almost as if he's telling drivers that you risk a crash or running off if you attempt to pass.

[GuidoK]

No one can win without a winning car, as the driver and car finish at exactly the same time.
So your point is moot.

Lets wait until the end of the season to see where Max ends up in the WDC and where Hammy ends up in the WDC, and where the rest ends up in the WDC.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Anybody else notice Carlos squeez Charlie at the start? Charlie seemed a bit miffed.

no but i saw Max squeeze (?push) Carlos off the track at turn 1

[Marcoose]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

No one can win without a winning car, as the driver and car finish at exactly the same time.
So your point is moot.

Lets wait until the end of the season to see where Max ends up in the WDC and where Hammy ends up in the WDC, and where the rest ends up in the WDC.

The diehard Verstappen fans will disagree with you. They say it’s the ‘Max Factor’. It isn’t. For nine grand prix now ?

I’ve been saying it’s Verstappen’s WDC since Bahrain. Only a fool would bet against him.

That’s all I have to say.