[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

3400 pounds isn't small. They got the length right, same as a Cayman, but missed the weight by 400 pounds.

Oh! So it's the weight that is making it large... even though it isn't actually large. Umkay.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Oh! So it's the weight that is making it large... even though it isn't actually large. Umkay.

No, it's big. It's 14 inches longer than my M Coupe was and 4 inches longer than my GTI. So yes, large and fat. Both.

[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by wdb

Because almost nobody buys manuals anymore, and anyway stay tuned.

Because sports car! If you need two golf bags buy a SL Merc.


Me for one.

Or different maths.

They shit in your teacup and u call it soufflé

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

No, it's big. It's 14 inches longer than my M Coupe was and 4 inches longer than my GTI. So yes, large and fat. Both.

I didn't check your numbers, but if I may add another perspective...

The Supra's 4379mm length is identical to a Cayman S, but at 1854mm wide it's a little narrower than the Porsche, which measures 1994mm across. In terms of wheelbase there's only 5mm in it.

The TT RS is shorter and narrower than both but with a longer wheelbase, while the M2 is the longer for both overall length and wheelbase, and is just a little narrower than the Cayman S.

As for the weight... a Supra's weight sounds like a lot until you consider the M2 weighs more.

Granted, an M2 is a 2+2, but it's generally considered a small tossable car. The A90 is smaller and lighter. Where's the applause?

[Red Bread]

So it's better than the fat kid that's somehow 100 pounds or more heavier than it's larger donor car. Wow.

It's still 400 pounds heavier than the Cayman and a whole 47 pounds lighter than the Z4 which presumably has more standard content. News at 11, BMW dgaf about making light cars anymore.

I'll applaud when you list something worthy of applause. At the moment you just seem to be celebrating it as the least worse thing that's cheaper than the much better Cayman.

[GoneIn4Secs]

This guy makes good points

[supra93]

Originally Posted by NickyC

I owned a Supra MKIV TT before, during, and shortly after TFATF. I can guarantee you, that movie had a TON to do with the legend of the car. Very few people commented on the car before that movie. After the movie came out, rockstar status confirmed it was unreal. It also more than doubled the price I paid for the car used in a matter of months.

Prices did rise after the movie. At the time I was looking at a 93 TT w/120k for $12k. I passed because I thought these things would keep droping. After F&F similar cars were being listed for $18k-$20k.

[Alfisti]

As a boring dad, i am going to buy a sporty car in the next 18 months and it must have 4 seats. I rented a 911 last summer and threw my 7 year old in the back seat, he went ballistic, said it was the funnest thing he has ever done.

i have a 3 year old too so intend on having them enjoy a proper sports car (or maaaaaaaybe the previous model M3). Oh and I am talking verts only. Thing is with the 911 the engine being where it is, my 7 year old could hear it screaming. The joy on the lad's face.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

As a boring dad, i am going to buy a sporty car in the next 18 months and it must have 4 seats. I rented a 911 last summer and threw my 7 year old in the back seat, he went ballistic, said it was the funnest thing he has ever done.

i have a 3 year old too so intend on having them enjoy a proper sports car (or maaaaaaaybe the previous model M3). Oh and I am talking verts only. Thing is with the 911 the engine being where it is, my 7 year old could hear it screaming. The joy on the lad's face.

You're a good dad. I find nothing uglier than a four seat folding hard top, especially an M with chrome window trim. Plus an E93 weighs as much as an E39 M5. Get the P car.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

You're a good dad. I find nothing uglier than a four seat folding hard top, especially an M with chrome window trim. Plus an E93 weighs as much as an E39 M5. Get the P car.

Don't want to derail this thread so will open my own as i get more serious about buying but basically down to Mustang or 911 verts, I cannot think of anything else. Purchase price, storage costs, depreciation etc all come into play.

My point i guess, was that some of us like a small back seat and it's not useless

[supra93]

Supposedly Toyota is looking to sell around 1,000 units a month. We'll see if they can reach their sales target.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by supra93

Supposedly Toyota is looking to sell around 1,000 units a month. We'll see if they can reach their sales target.

Globally or US only? That would be slightly behind the current C7 take rate and way, way, way ahead of the 911, 718 (both Boxster and Cayman), and combined sales of the SL, SLC and GT.

Both the Camaro and Mustang sell around 6k a month, but that's including the lower trims.

Looks like Lexus RC sales were initially over 1200 in 2015, 970 in 2016, 615 in 2017 and fell to 280 in 2018.

I suppose it's not unreasonable to expect a similar trend for the Supra

[supra93]

He did not say specifically, but everyone was assuming he was referring to the US.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by supra93

He did not say specifically, but everyone was assuming he was referring to the US.

I didn't think the US was getting that many all of 2019. 🤷🏻*♂️

[supra93]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

I didn't think the US was getting that many all of 2019. 🤷🏻*♂️

I'm also a little lost, but no doubt the US will receive a good amount of cars. We were the second largest market for the A80.

Back to the A90, from what I understand the US will be getting 1,500 launch editions. After all of those have been sold then the normal 3.0 and 3.0 Premium cars will be available.

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Be happy that we can still get a Miata, Cayman, 911 (soon) or Wrangler with a manual. I'd personally rather either a Miata or a Cayman than this anyway.

Don't forget about the Tacoma; I bought mine with a manual. I would really like to get the current MX-5 someday, such a great little driver's car.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by JasonCSU

Don't forget about the Tacoma; I bought mine with a manual. I would really like to get the current MX-5 someday, such a great little driver's car.

Reminds me of my parents old Trooper with a manual. Always felt like it had escaped the bean counters review. Great unit.

[supra93]

Australia will also be I6 only, and they are getting less then 500 units for the 1st year.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/fou...e-to-australia

[whats77inaname]

If only this guy would have been on the design team, I would have gladly parted with my money for a new Supra.

[alex2364]

I would much rather have a Supra with the Z4 nose.

[jeff113]

Looks pretty good. It actually resembles a Mk IV!

[shay2nak]

The supra rendering looks WAAAY better.