[Searay55555]

Many of us are getting our cars delivered soon, and many have just come in recently. This has me thinking about maintenance plans and BMW Ultimate Care.

Those of you with prior M car experience in F8x and G8x, how many miles will we typically get out of front and rear brakes on a car that isn’t tracked? I’m seeing in the M3/M4 threads, talk of 10-12K miles out of the rear because they are so small. Then I’m hearing of full brake changes (assume pads and rotors) of $5K from the dealer.

I’m just wondering if it makes any sense at all to get any of the Ultimate Care packages? I’m thinking about MAYBE getting the lowest one at $850 but that only covers 3 years.

I’ve been doing brakes since I was 16, and it’s not that bad of a job. Doing a brake job on the M’s doesn’t look that bad at all, from what I’ve seen. The pads for the front are the most expensive at ~$300/set, rears MUCH less. And I’m hearing 2 piece rotors will soon be available for around $300’ish. Also, I imagine new rotors won’t be required on every pad change. Can these drilled rotors be turned, or do they just have to be replaced? The thought of paying a dealer $5K for a set of brakes is bananas.

Any thoughts from those much more knowledgeable for us new M owners?

[M.Falcon]

STATUS 193, IM AT PORT!!!


This is all that is left:
Port installed parts
Transport to Dealer
Dealer is gonna PPF the car and put some extra goodies on.
Then She is mine.

[mtoo]

Originally Posted by Kmj442

According to my CA my car is still "Produced not shipped" and also said "From this point, I can only add that most of the info that follows is vague and unreliable until we see it on our lot"

Hopefully it made it but doubtful. Hope some of you made it onto Frontier Ace which should have left for Jacksonville this AM.

I just called BMW Genius and they said that my car has been assigned a carrier, but not yet arrived at port of departure. They were unable to say which port it would be headed to. So they either keep the cars at BMW until they get assigned to a vessel and then ship them, or the status is not up to date. Because the week 38 builds all finished by the 20th and were shipped and loaded onto the Glovis Cardinal 4 days later on the 24th in Veracruz.

For reference, my car was in Ready for Transport since Oct 1, and it still says Ready for Transport today.

I guess if they're waiting to batch as many cars together as possible (one hypothesis), shipping it so close to the Glovis Cardinal wouldn't make sense. I'm also glad they're not storing the cars at the port for a month, if true, because some of the initial G87s had problems with their brakes or brake pads because of the moisture/early rust from what I heard.

[xiven]

Well that is a step in the right direction maybe? Its amazing that with all the technology we have, we do not have any way of tracking cars that go from factory to port to ship. Evidently even BMW reps can't track them. Are they not scanned at a certain point or something and when they finally are scanned then you get all these updates all at once?

Originally Posted by mtoo

shipping it so close to the Glovis Cardinal wouldn't make sense.

Keep in mind for September they had ships go to the east coast on the following dates:
9/4
9/14
9/24

Not to say its for sure that a ship is going to go out to the east coast every 10 days this month but it shows they have a lot of cars that they are trying to get out of there without clogging up the factory and or the port.

[k-m2-j442]

Originally Posted by mtoo

I just called BMW Genius and they said that my car has been assigned a carrier, but not yet arrived at port of departure. They were unable to say which port it would be headed to. So they either keep the cars at BMW until they get assigned to a vessel and then ship them, or the status is not up to date. Because the week 38 builds all finished by the 20th and were shipped and loaded onto the Glovis Cardinal 4 days later on the 24th in Veracruz.

For reference, my car was in Ready for Transport since Oct 1, and it still says Ready for Transport today.

I guess if they're waiting to batch as many cars together as possible (one hypothesis), shipping it so close to the Glovis Cardinal wouldn't make sense. I'm also glad they're not storing the cars at the port for a month, if true, because some of the initial G87s had problems with their breaks or break pads because of the moisture/early rust from what I heard.

ok I just called BMW Genius as well...mine is on the way to the "port" (as my CA mentioned last week) but there is no carrier assignment according to Genius...They also didn't know which port it was being shipped from (Being delivered to Port NJ for me)
I assume that once I get a carrier assignment my status will jump to "at the port" assuming that it should probably be there already since its been in transit from the factory for like 6 days.

[mtoo]

Originally Posted by Kmj442

ok I just called BMW Genius as well...mine is on the way to the "port" (as my CA mentioned last week) but there is no carrier assignment according to Genius...They also didn't know which port it was being shipped from (Being delivered to Port NJ for me)
I assume that once I get a carrier assignment my status will jump to "at the port" assuming that it should probably be there already since its been in transit from the factory for like 6 days.

FYI, as far as I know, carrier assignment only refers to transport to the port from the factory. That's different than being assigned to an Ocean Freight. Does anyone know different?

[k-m2-j442]

I tried to dig into the different status codes and this is one of the better ones I found, actually has "165" listed:


Production phases are identical, here's the detailed order status codes - note not Plant Spartanburg specific and codes will not display in online order tracking:

• 000 Order is canceled [Order deleted by NA]
• 017 Order registered without quota - dummy model (master data not released); not confirmed and not scheduled [Order not specified]
• 027 Order registered without quota - outside the ordering time window; not confirmed and not scheduled
• 037 Order registered without quota - technical approval is missing; not confirmed and not scheduled [Order at BMW NA][Model or feature unavailable]
• 047 Order registered without quota - no quota in the entire planning period; not confirmed and not scheduled [Order bank request entered]
• 057 Order booked with quota - technical approval is missing; not yet confirmed and not scheduled [Spec. not released - available quota]
• 087 Order booked with quota - sales release is missing (e.g. for large customers); not yet confirmed and not scheduled [Order not released for production]
• 097 Order booked with quota - transfer to the central system is not carried out online; not yet confirmed and not scheduled [Transmission to AG - confirmation pending]
• 102 Order booked with quota - transferred to the central system; Special request not yet confirmed and not scheduled [Special request order received - AG]
• 105 Order booked with quota - transferred to the central system; not yet confirmed due to capacity limits and not scheduled [No production week available]
• 111 Order booked with quota - transferred to the central system; capacity checked production date is confirmed [Order Received]
• 112 Order for daily package planning (production) provided [Scheduled for Production]
• 150 Planning of bodyshell / display of chassis number and F2 date [Production begins/Production started] [Shell = "Body in White"]
• 151 Receipt of shell / review and, if necessary, correction of F2 date [Exterior body assembly begins/Entry body shop-serial # assign]
• 152 Receipt of paint shop / review and, if necessary, correction of F2 appointment [In the paint booth/Entry paint shop]
• 153 Receipt of assembly / review and, if necessary, correction of F2 appointment [Entering Assembly Line/Entry assembly]
• 154 Final assembly / inspection and, if necessary, correction of the F2 date [Assembly in progress/Assembly]
• 155 End of assembly (F1) and final inspection / review and, if necessary, correction of F2 date [Quality Check, Production completed, Final Assembly/Assembly finish-quality check]
• 160 Vehicle handover from the factory to sales / determination of F2 date (actual) / initiation of invoice and registration document creation transit [Released to Distribution, Ready For Transport/Vehicle handover to sales]
• 165 Factory exit and transit [In transit - Plant of Manufacture to Port of Departure]
• 168 BMW Group factory warehouse [AG Stock]
• 170 Vehicle intended for workshop cycle (BMW Welt car pick-up / retrofitting / direct sales + vehicle fleet/waiting for workshop)[Vehicle planned for workshop]
• 172 Vehicle scheduled for workshop run (Workshop planned)
• 174 Vehicle in the workshop run (Workshop entry)
• 176 Exit workshop - vehicle is ready (Workshop Complete)
• 180 Waiting For Export Dispatch [Vehicle awaiting release of consign.]
• 181 Handover to shipping (at foreign plant: port of destination) / vehicle is in the central brokerage warehouse) [Handover to Distribution/Dispatched from factory, Waiting for Domestic Dispatch]
• 182 Handover to freight forwarder - vehicle is loaded (Schedule for Carrier) [Handover to Carrier/Load Assignment]
• 190 Vehicle has left the factory (at the foreign plant: transshipment warehouse) / exit from the central brokerage center (In transit to port of exit) [Dispatched from AG]
• 191 Goods receipt BMW Group (retrieval of an already delivered vehicle with corresponding invoice credit, returned to BMW AG)[Returned to AG]
• 193 Entrance to the forwarding warehouse (car) [Arrived at Port of exit]
• 194 Selected for Shipment
• 195 Exit warehouse (car) (Shipped from Port of Exit) [In transit]
• 196 Shipment Arrival
• 198 Entrance to the dealer warehouse [At the Dealership]
• 199 Delivery to BMW Welt for self-collectors / direct sales / fleet entrance [Handover to Customer in Munich]
• 295 Approval of demonstration and fleet vehicles (note the bonus-relevant registration deadlines)
• 298 Registration or delivery notification by retailers to end customers (note the relevant registration deadlines)

from here: https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1886982

[Derko1]

Originally Posted by baron95

Hard to tell. You are in NJ, I'm in CT, both our cars are coming to the same port. We will probably be on the same boat. I'd say 4 weeks is possible (sunny day scenario).

I'll be happy if I get it before Thanksgiving, but I'm hoping for November 6, since that is when I return from an 10-day overseas trip.

Just checked it today and I am now in 154 status. I guess for me, I might get stuck at port for the MSport HAS... and we then would get the cars at the same time probably.

Man... 4 weeks would be amazing. I'd love to have it by middle November.

[baron95]

Originally Posted by Derko1

Just checked it today and I am now in 154 status. I guess for me, I might get stuck at port for the MSport HAS... and we then would get the cars at the same time probably.

Man... 4 weeks would be amazing. I'd love to have it by middle November.:happyanim

I too have a HAS port install.

4 weeks is sunny day scenario. Hit the ship/port/truck just right. 6 is more likely. 8 can happen.

Just too many variables. There’s a lot of container traffic this time of the year (holiday goods coming in).

[baron95]

Originally Posted by Kmj442

I tried to dig into the different status codes and this is one of the better ones I found, actually has "165" listed:


Production phases are identical, here's the detailed order status codes - note not Plant Spartanburg specific and codes will not display in online order tracking:

• 111 Order booked with quota - transferred to the central system; capacity checked production date is confirmed [Order Received]
• 112 Order for daily package planning (production) provided [Scheduled for Production]
• 150 Planning of bodyshell / display of chassis number and F2 date [Production begins/Production started] [Shell = "Body in White"]
• 151 Receipt of shell / review and, if necessary, correction of F2 date [Exterior body assembly begins/Entry body shop-serial # assign]
• 152 Receipt of paint shop / review and, if necessary, correction of F2 appointment [In the paint booth/Entry paint shop]
• 153 Receipt of assembly / review and, if necessary, correction of F2 appointment [Entering Assembly Line/Entry assembly]
• 154 Final assembly / inspection and, if necessary, correction of the F2 date [Assembly in progress/Assembly]
• 155 End of assembly (F1) and final inspection / review and, if necessary, correction of F2 date [Quality Check, Production completed, Final Assembly/Assembly finish-quality check]
• 160 Vehicle handover from the factory to sales / determination of F2 date (actual) / initiation of invoice and registration document creation transit [Released to Distribution, Ready For Transport/Vehicle handover to sales]
• 165 Factory exit and transit [In transit - Plant of Manufacture to Port of Departure/Ready for Transport]
  
• 193 Entrance to the forwarding warehouse (car) [Arrived at Port of exit]
  
• 195 Exit warehouse (car) (Shipped from Port of Exit) [In transit]
• 196 Shipment Arrival
• 198 Entrance to the dealer warehouse [At the Dealership]
  

***** Thank You so much for posting this. It is in fact the best description and makes the most sense. Other lists tended to have the codes from Germany and Spartanburg.

The list you posted makes a lot more sense, and you really need to look at the code from the tracker site (browser trick) and use this list to understand the actual status. What the tracker site lists as text status is slightly wrong in some stages. I highlighted some of the key stages.

[don pablo]

My order was placed on 9/20. My Garage shows in Final Assembly as of today. My dealer is in Washington, DC area. I assume my port of entry is Baltimore.

[mtoo]

Originally Posted by don pablo

My Garage shows in Final Assembly as of today. My dealer is in Washington, DC area. I assume my port of entry is Baltimore.

FYI, you can find your port of entry on your sales order/vehicle inquiry report that you signed to place your order.

Originally Posted by don pablo

My order was placed on 9/20.

Congrats, you'll get your car from order to delivery faster than anyone here by a mile. Not sure if waitlists have disappeared, or if you're really lucky. Either way, congrats!

[baron95]

Originally Posted by mtoo

Congrats, you'll get your car from order to delivery faster than anyone here by a mile. Not sure if waitlists have disappeared, or if you're really lucky. Either way, congrats!

Given the ever growing list of M2s showing in dealer stock, I'd say there are many slots open for dealer stock orders, so any sold customer order will get priority.

[mtoo]

Originally Posted by xiven

Well that is a step in the right direction maybe? Its amazing that with all the technology we have, we do not have any way of tracking cars that go from factory to port to ship. Evidently even BMW reps can't track them. Are they not scanned at a certain point or something and when they finally are scanned then you get all these updates all at once?




Keep in mind for September they had ships go to the east coast on the following dates:
9/4
9/14
9/24

Not to say its for sure that a ship is going to go out to the east coast every 10 days this month but it shows they have a lot of cars that they are trying to get out of there without clogging up the factory and or the port.

Any idea what the next ship is that could pick up the cars?

[Derko1]

Originally Posted by baron95

I too have a HAS port install.

4 weeks is sunny day scenario. Hit the ship/port/truck just right. 6 is more likely. 8 can happen.

Just too many variables. There’s a lot of container traffic this time of the year (holiday goods coming in).

That's great. We'll probably be in the same ship then.

I just moved into 155 status overnight.

[apez]

Glovis Cardinal has left Baltimore, but is apparently making it's next stop in Philly.

I am a bit surprised that they stop at both Philly and New Jersey. Must be another brands cars getting offloaded in Philadelphia?

[k-m2-j442]

Originally Posted by apez

Glovis Cardinal has left Baltimore, but is apparently making it's next stop in Philly.

I am a bit surprised that they stop at both Philly and New Jersey. Must be another brands cars getting offloaded in Philadelphia?

I go over the Walt Whitman bridge in Philly A LOT and I know a see a Hyundai building and tons of cars from them there. I’m not sure what other brands get unloaded there but I would expect there is at least a couple others. That being said I have no idea where factories for those cars are so…

[baron95]

I just got an email answer from the BMW Genius confirming that my car is at the Veracruz port waiting for a ship assignment.

So, at least in my case, the shipping port is confirmed as Veracruz, not Altamira.

Not sure if anyone knows the schedule of next one or two vessels departing Veracruz for the East Coast.

[Workodactyl]

Originally Posted by xiven

For that price I'd just pay for fixes as I go. Fixes for curb rash range from $150-$350 in my area.

Yeah, even when I bent my wheel, it only cost $100 to unbend it. Would be nice for a direct replacement though. But good point nonetheless. I'll avoid.

Originally Posted by baron95

I bought a basically brand new set of G80 take off wheels/tires/TPMS for $2800. And those are "forged". I'll eventually turn the stock set up into winter set up.

One thing I was curious was the 4-year maintenance plan that includes the consumable. I plan to keep this car for 4 years. Is it worth it? I figure I could get one set of brakes out of BMW.

Yeah, I'm curious about that too. I will say, my brakes on my Golf R lasted quite long. I didn't drive her too hard, but after 40k miles, she still had half her pads left, so I'm hoping the M2 lasts just as long, unless I take her to the track and all bets are off lol.

[M.Falcon]

I arrived at port late yesterday, called BMW Genius again and they said that all port installed parts should be done by Friday and I am scheduled to go to the dealer this Saturday!

[baron95]

Originally Posted by M.Falcon

I arrived at port late yesterday, called BMW Genius again and they said that all port installed parts should be done by Friday and I am scheduled to go to the dealer this Saturday!

Congrats. That’s fast for the port install.

Hope you can have it for the weekend.

[mtoo]

Originally Posted by baron95

I just got an email answer from the BMW Genius confirming that my car is at the Veracruz port waiting for a ship assignment.

So, at least in my case, the shipping port is confirmed as Veracruz, not Altamira.

Not sure if anyone knows the schedule of next one or two vessels departing Veracruz for the East Coast.

I found this list of Vehicle Carriers with familiar references. I have seen many posts here and elsewhere where cars were shipped by one of Glovis, RCC, or Grand and I had falsely assumed they were managed differently. So I thought that any Vehicle Carrier in port could bring our cars over...but after seeing this list, I believe it explains why our cars didn't get onto the Frontier Ace which just left port. We should probably expect our cars to get on the next ship that shows up from this list instead. I have no idea how to figure that out though.
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