[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Baller

Could I get some opinions on the Stradale Designs CF Oil Cooler Guard, Think I'll buy it today depending on reviews.
Anyone rocking this?

https://www.stradaledesign.com/g87-m...l-cooler-guard

No bueno...not only would I stay away from cf under the car (you need function, not looks) but that is not going to provide very good airflow.

[Baller]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

I would't put anything carbon fiber underneath the vehicle. That $1k piece will be damaged in no time. I'd also be concerned with airflow to the cooler with the openings facing the rear of the vehicle.

The only thing that needs to be covered is the cooler opening, the rest of the underbody is covered already. Unless you're taking the M2 off-roading, the "skid plates" are unnecessary.

I should also mention I'm in Canada, it's currently -11c/51.8f and getting colder every day, there's large chunks of ice and salt flying, rolling and sliding down the road right beside me. Sometimes faster than me...
It's fucking nuts on these roads right now, literally shit is flying everywhere, and I'm in Toronto, so everyone is in a rush to go nowhere.

True, CF is not my first choice for something under the car, but I do like the design for protection in these elements.

Keep it coming guys.

[Baller]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Username checks out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks insane. I love how the openings face the rear as they should. Seems well engineered.

If you have the money, go for it. But I agree metal would be more durable. I have been sleeping on getting the mishimoto. It’ll be half the price of this one. Why not the mishimoto?

(Metal gets hit and doesn’t get damaged, and if it does, it’ll dent/bend instead of cracking, carbon fibre is really poor for parts underneath, look at lips breaking all the time)

I wrote an awesome reply to this, left the app, assuming my draft would be automatically saved and it clearly wasn’t.

So to sum things up; Thank you, good points,
It does look well executed, there’s also a video on how they engineered it with flow testing. I think it looks cool too.
Yes metal would be ideal but I don’t like the look, design and the fact that everyone has the same ones.
I’d like to try something different, also I’d like to have a opinion based on experience with it, the price doesn’t really matter, roast me.

[Baller]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Be our hero and get it!

If I could, I would.

Then you will be able to tell us how it holds up.
I’m not sure how carbon fibre changes with temperature, but you know plastic becomes extremely hard and brittle, that is why it cracks so easy when it’s cold out.
Maybe carbon fibre will be more malleable and take some impact better.

After a very brief CF research project online, and a big thank you to everyone here, I have decided to not to purchase it based on the information you all provided and in the facts that CF can become very brittle in cold climates.
It’s always cold here. I’ll raw dog it like it always do.
Thank you.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Is it a design flaw? Up to you to decide.

I decided long ago that it is.

[xps]

Originally Posted by Baller

Could I get some opinions on the Stradale Designs CF Oil Cooler Guard, Think I'll buy it today depending on reviews.
Anyone rocking this?

https://www.stradaledesign.com/g87-m...l-cooler-guard

This is exactly the design I had in my mind. Still allowing air to flow horizontally and touch the fins but restricts any flying object from getting into to direct contact with the cooler at an angle. I would have liked it made with some metal

[Tag]

Originally Posted by M2siast

I’m not an engineer.
My dumbass wonders if the oil cooler couldn’t be swapped with the intercooler and provide the same efficiency for both. So the one facing the ground would just leak air…

Because I’m a layman, I assume it wouldn’t. Otherwise, this design would be dumber than me.

Well, I am an engineer albeit not automotive. But I do know this, they went from an air-to-air intercooler like on older engines to an air-to-water intercooler on the S58. Since its water cooled, they were able to take advantage of not needing it placed far from the engine like on air-to-air intercoolers which are typically found behind the front bumper. It's top mounted providing a direct path to the intake.

[Vmaxx]

Originally Posted by xps

As the car is brand new i don't think I should assume that risk. If the oil starvation caused such damage to the engine there is equal chance the turbo has run without oil. Even if the turbos show no current damage, there is a possibility that these turbos fail few thousand miles later.

If they do NOT total the car insist the insurance pay for the recommended repairs from the BMW service dept. This is where having a good insurance company comes in handy. In Texas we have the right to take the car wherever we want to complete repairs so obviously I would take it to a good dealership and I’ve never had an issue with my insurance company pushing back on what my dealership recommends.

The dealership has no burden of proof because they are the experts, these cars are much more advanced than they were even a few years ago and the BMW techs know better than anyone would. It’s the insurance company that has the burden of proof to define why a repair that BMW recommends is not eligible under your policy. Push back on them if they try this and remind them that the initial estimate was done prior to getting them involved and has nothing to do with inflating the bill, but simply to ensure the car is repaired to its previous state and up to BMW standards of performance.

[xps]

Originally Posted by xps

This is exactly the design I had in my mind. Still allowing air to flow horizontally and touch the fins but restricts any flying object from getting into to direct contact with the cooler at an angle. I would have liked it made with some metal

The cold air (cyna) will flow parallel to the oil cooler via a small sleeve opening(meshed may be) in the front, the exit of hot air happens via rear facing vents. This will also allow the air passing through the cooler from top to bottom.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by xps

The cold air (cyna) will flow parallel to the oil cooler via a small sleeve opening(meshed may be) in the front, the exit of hot air happens via rear facing vents. This will also allow the air passing through the cooler from top to bottom.

I like this design as well. Only downside I can think of is it would protrude down a bit farther than a mesh design.

[sacowich]

I had a Mishimoto on an F80 for years, and have had it on G87 for a while now.
It’s a peace of mind thing, same as upgrading charge pipes from stock rubber/plastic.
Are they perfect? Probably not, but it’s just about decreasing probability of expensive or catastrophic damage.

[KC87ZB]

Originally Posted by Tag

I like this design as well. Only downside I can think of is it would protrude down a bit farther than a mesh design.

Exactly, you are going to loose about an inch of ground clearance. One of the reasons I agree with M2siast on not liking the carbon fiber for this, you are likely to take more impacts and CF is more likely to fracture than a metal one.

[turnsignalslol]

Does anyone have a discount code for Mishimoto? Or know when they have sales?

[CadolinaRipr]

Added my Zunsport today. I honestly think it’s decent. Common road debris should be fine.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Only the 5% off

5OFF

Yeah, that should pop up when you go to their site.

[Ointment0440]

Originally Posted by M2siast

I slept on it. I bought the Mishimoto skid plate just now, waiting for it to ship.

My rationale (Baller helped me remember how bad things can get, thank you very much man! Of course others were very helpful too, it’s just that he hit it where it hurts):

I drive in any condition. I know deep snow is heavy stuff. I’ve had front coolers just blocked by it, but I’ve had to replace the bottom plastic pieces on all my cars (including an X3), for driving in snow too deep and bottoming out the car (including getting stuck because of it).

As I mentioned before, it’s not just about the cooler, but the plastic pieces will crack and sometimes if the rock is bad enough, the plate will hang loose and hit the ground. Those original parts are more expensive than the metal aftermarket, from memory (I paid $1,000 to get my bottom plastic pieces shipped from Schmiedmann for my 135i).
When I sold the 135i, it was cracked again!

If it happens to the plate, it could happen to the cooler.

So if you don’t drive it in deep snow (as you know I go skiing), or let the car hibernate during winter, maybe you don’t have to worry about it (look at my cooler, it’s brand new after 9,000 km).

Since I’ll be off-roading this car to ski, I got the metal plate for when it bottoms out.

Is it a design flaw? Up to you to decide. I am still not certain about that. I just think they expect people to be careful and not off-road this car. Screw that.

Did you buy directly from Mishimoto? I got an email the day after I ordered saying it's backordered 8-10 weeks at this point.

[El SID]

Originally Posted by M2siast

I did. Oh no? Let’s see what they say. I’ll look up alternatives if that’s the case. Why would they not state as such on their website before you order (like Zunsport)?

I called Mishimoto the other day. Their representative stated that production should likely be replenished sometime in January.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by El SID

I called Mishimoto the other day. Their representative stated that production should likely be replenished sometime in January.

On Thursday, after the OP's incident, they stated 8-10 weeks. Of course, may have been a worst case scenario but who knows.

[sclui56]

I ordered mine form Mishimoto around turkey day, not because there was a deal, but my car was en route. Right after I ordered, got an email stating OOS and 8-10 weeks ETA. Then it magically got shipped on 12.13 and delivered 12.19.

They should have better indication on stock status on the order page.

[Hook3549]

Took delivery of M2 this friday, but is my car missing radiator cooling guard?

[FrankWhite!]

Originally Posted by Hook3549

Took delivery of M2 this friday, but is my car missing radiator cooling guard?

From what I’ve seen here thats the way it’s coming for the auto transmission cars. Is yours an auto too?

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by FrankWhite!

From what I’ve seen here thats the way it’s coming for the auto transmission cars. Is yours an auto too?

My '23 auto has a plastic guard on both radiators.

* that appears to be the center radiator. Mine has no guard from the factory.