[LVI]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

The fact that you replied without actually reading what you replied to says A LOT about you. The car didn't have 40 miles on it. Reread the post I was replying to, out loud so you comprehend it this time and see what sort of "mental diarea" you're talking about.
Christ almighty, might want to delete your account.

I'm on it!

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

The fact that you replied without actually reading what you replied to says A LOT about you. The car didn't have 40 miles on it. Reread the post I was replying to, out loud so you comprehend it this time and see what sort of "mental diarea" you're talking about.
Christ almighty, might want to delete your account.

Yeah, he/she has recently (today) blazed through a bunch of threads with fast, criticizing haphazard posts.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by zero21

Got to admit, it is weird seeing these units arrive with stuff that wasn't supposed to be available.

The spoiler especially. This is the first M2 in any picture/video I have seen with it. I am glad though as it proves my concern that its not a good fit for the M2 (no pun intended).

[zero21]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

The spoiler especially. This is the first M2 in any picture/video I have seen with it. I am glad though as it proves my concern that it's not a good fit for the M2 (no pun intended).

Mine is slightly different - we'll see how mine looks tomorrow

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by mzcp

I bought my brand new E90 M3 with 90 miles on it. It was a dealer swap from Riverside to Buena Park. No issues at all until I sold it with 40k miles. Different circumstances here but those cars are well built. Anything over 20 miles, I would ask for an explanation.

Bought my new 2020 Scat Pack with 300 miles on it. Was a dealer to dealer swap. Word I got from other dealer employees is typically the GM or SM takes a Sunday and drives a new vehicle to a distant dealer, in case the starting point was a TX dealership and drove the car to a northwest Arkansas Dodge dealer. Drops off the vehicle then drives a prearranged swap vehicle back to his dealership.

Tires were like new. Brakes ditto. Oil on the dipstick looked very fresh. I only put 8K miles on the car but I believed it would have been ok longer term. No engine noises no "Hemi tick". Car/clutch/transmission all felt nice and tight. Would have kept it forever but unexpectedly had a chance to buy a 2022 BMW 230i and I jumped at it.

[Bungus]

The problem isn't the miles itself, it's the unknown of what was happening within those first miles and what the car is being put through.

Perhaps this is still an unknown science, but I firmly adhere to break-in procedures. I don't think manufacturers put break-in procedures for the hell of it, with many of them adding specific lockouts for RPM's and launch control until a certain interval (not sure if BMW does this or not). Correctly mating mechanical parts gradually makes sense to me, and I would think this is especially important if you plan on beating your car in the future.

Regardless, if some random person is out ripping MY brand new $60-70k car on a cold engine, ignoring all the break in requirements, I feel fully justified in bailing on said car. I am not paying the premium to have a potentially damaged or inferior product. Again, we are all free to have our own opinions about break in procedures but for my money I'm not going to play around with it.

Will an extra 40-50 miles of potentially ignored break-in procedure driving ruin the car? Maybe not, but that's not something I want to have in the back of my mind. Granted, I'm also the type of person that is mortified if I get a rock chip so kudos to those who enjoy the car and ignore the BS "what ifs"

[zero21]

Originally Posted by Bungus

The problem isn't the miles itself, it's the unknown of what was happening within those first miles and what the car is being put through.

Perhaps this is still an unknown science, but I firmly adhere to break-in procedures. I don't think manufacturers put break-in procedures for the hell of it, with many of them adding specific lockouts for RPM's and launch control until a certain interval (not sure if BMW does this or not). Correctly mating mechanical parts gradually makes sense to me, and I would think this is especially important if you plan on beating your car in the future.

Regardless, if some random person is out ripping MY brand new $60-70k car on a cold engine, ignoring all the break in requirements, I feel fully justified in bailing on said car. I am not paying the premium to have a potentially damaged or inferior product. Again, we are all free to have our own opinions about break in procedures but for my money I'm not going to play around with it.

Will an extra 40-50 miles of potentially ignored break-in procedure driving ruin the car? Maybe not, but that's not something I want to have in the back of my mind. Granted, I'm also the type of person that is mortified if I get a rock chip so kudos to those who enjoy the car and ignore the BS "what ifs"

I don't disagree about break-in procedure at all. But, what you're saying is; BMW employees would trash a customers BMW on purpose, risk their job, over a few miles? That just doesn't make sense to me.

But yeah, I will have to live that. I'm going to talk long and hard to them, and inspect the under carriage for any signs, etc.

I forgot to mention - the cars journalists drove in Arizona didn't reach break-in miles and they were bombing them.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by zero21

This is the direction I started leaning a couple hours ago. Everyone on here is like, "drive like I stole it!" "Take it to the track" yada yada yada. Yet, some BMW exec puts 35 additional miles on it and all the sudden it's a game changer?

Honestly I don't think I really care I'm not that paranoid. My SA drove it to get gas and said it felt better than his CS and was actually concerned my cars steering was too sensitive since "no other M car was this responsive".

I'll see if I can't get some stuff on the house and play around with them for a bit. SA said he was 100% certain no one would trash a brand new M car, and that specifically, some plant execs will put miles on HEA units to personally sign off on production quality. NBD to him, and before the car even landed he told me he's personally hand washing my car so I know he cares.

Either way, it's that much closer to break-in.

Never been one to say drive you like you stole it.

But I like your attitude. There are a number of ways a new car -- especially one that has a number of stages from the end of the assembly line to the dealer's showroom floor -- could accumulate miles not all are horrible. Just a bit of a shock to see 70 on the odometer rather than say 7.

[Bungus]

Originally Posted by zero21

I don't disagree about break-in procedure at all. But, what you're saying is; BMW employees would trash a customers BMW on purpose, risk their job, over a few miles? That just doesn't make sense to me.

But yeah, I will have to live that. I'm going to talk long and hard to them, and inspect the under carriage for any signs, etc.

I forgot to mention - the cars journalists drove in Arizona didn't reach break-in miles and they were bombing them.

I would say BMW employees are the least likely to do it, at least compared to other manufacturers, but again just voicing my concern.

Truthfully, if your vehicle is an HEA or 1st allocation there may be very reasonable logistics reasons for the miles outside of someone just ripping it. Would make sense that it was potentially moved across facilities prior to being released to a carrier, or any number of quality control type reasons.

Plus, not sure how many of us on here are really going to keep the car past warranty, so this all may be a moot point at the end of the day.

[JustinHEMI]

I wouldn't sweat those miles. Ask for explanation, yes, but not sweat them. They aren't dealer miles.

[F87inJAX]

My dealer just got their HEAs in yesterday. I stopped by today and saw it in the detailing bay. I was trying not to get in the way of the guy working on another car next to it, so I didn’t stand there forever and soak it in. As an F87 owner (not sweaty, I’ve got a G87 on order), I’m not really sure what my reaction to the new design is. It definitely didn’t strike me immediately the way the last gen did when I first saw it. It’s going to take some getting used to. The first thing that struck me is yes, this car definitely looks bigger all the way around. The lines are interesting. Overall, first impression is it’s a very different car. Not saying that’s a bad thing.

And holy wheel gap Batman. Good lord.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by Bungus

I would say BMW employees are the least likely to do it, at least compared to other manufacturers, but again just voicing my concern.

Truthfully, if your vehicle is an HEA or 1st allocation there may be very reasonable logistics reasons for the miles outside of someone just ripping it. Would make sense that it was potentially moved across facilities prior to being released to a carrier, or any number of quality control type reasons.

Plus, not sure how many of us on here are really going to keep the car past warranty, so this all may be a moot point at the end of the day.

I appreciate the concerns and opinions - thank you. Helps to keep me in check and know what to ask about and look for.

If it was someone other than my SA I would be more skeptical, but I definitely trust him. And we all know these cars can take a pounding so even if I have something happen soon, it's noted in my file just in case.

Also, I was told a DME scan and log can be done if anything happens and I'm willing to let the car sit for a bit at the dealer.

Unfortunately this weekend I have some commitments to be made so I'll check back on that option soon anyway.

Edit: I'm actually more concerned the car sat in the open for two months at port exposed to the weather.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by F87inJAX

My dealer just got their HEAs in yesterday. I stopped by today and saw it in the detailing bay. I was trying not to get in the way of the guy working on another car next to it, so I didn’t stand there forever and soak it in. As an F87 owner (not sweaty, I’ve got a G87 on order), I’m not really sure what my reaction to the new design is. It definitely didn’t strike me immediately the way the last gen did when I first saw it. It’s going to take some getting used to. The first thing that struck me is yes, this car definitely looks bigger all the way around. The lines are interesting. Overall, first impression is it’s a very different car. Not saying that’s a bad thing.

And holy wheel gap Batman. Good lord.

Yeah, the car assuredly needs a drop of at least 15-20mm. I'm going to let you all test the options before I commit to it.

[KC87ZB]

Arrived in kc

[mzcp]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

I wouldn't sweat those miles. Ask for explanation, yes, but not sweat them. They aren't dealer miles.

Agree that is what I said too. Ask for an explanation.

[Sethhboii]

Mine was offered to me at MSRP as they have no buyer but will charge 7k over for anyone not on the list.

I love it but not the exact spec I want, I’ll wait for my #1 spot finally be allocated instead of settling for something I didn’t 100% order.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Sethhboii

Mine was offered to me at MSRP as they have no buyer but will charge 7k over for anyone not on the list.

I love it but not the exact spec I want, I’ll wait for my #1 spot finally be allocated instead of settling for something I didn’t 100% order.

What were your initial impressions since this is the first time you have seen one in person?

Nice E39 540 next to it too!

[Ctothej]

Originally Posted by TR23-87

Arrived in kc

Did you get a full pic of the bsm with bi colours?

[Game]

Originally Posted by LVI

Just LOL at this mental diarea. demo from BMW "higher ups" ... with 40 miles on the clock... yeah, sure.

It was probably driven around for testing, moved within the port complex, etc. It isn't the end of the world. Most people will drive it 15-20 mi to get home, and I bet most of these will arrive with 10 miles or so on the clock so 40 miles isn't exactly excessive, nor is it that uncommon for a car that was built months ago and was moved around through multiple facilities.

In my 6 years at BMW I’ve never seen a car come with even 20 miles.

Most even post PDI and gas have 12-16.

[Sethhboii]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

What were your initial impressions since this is the first time you have seen one in person?

Nice E39 540 next to it too!

I honestly think it looks 100x better in person than in pictures. Sounds good as well! Not a fan of the base model headlights but everything else is pretty sick. The girth is awesome too! This makes me really excited for mine! With some spacers and springs, the stance of the car is going to look great! People are going to do what they did with the G80/82 and talk shit until they see them and then love them.

[mzcp]

The eagle has landed. They let me sit inside the car. No test drive until next week. My initial impression, the seats are very soft, the shifter feels the same as my G80 and F87C. The brake pedal sits lower. The clutch pedal fells the same as my G80. I am 6"2 and can't fit in the backseat. My head is hitting the headliner. Less room in the backseat than my F87C. It looks much better in person than in pictures.

[uk01685]

So the one "mzcp" just posted has 37 miles on the odometer. What's up with this? Also thanks to all who's been taking pics of these 👍