[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Well, we will finally find out if LEW is the real deal or not...Hope CHARLIE doesn't break him!

FTFY!

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

FTFY!

Ham is not the real deal (as we can see by the ups and downs of his career and now that he doesnt have a teammate that they order to move over for him with team orders every other week) and when Ferrari kicks him in the balls it's going to be funny. They'll prob put Ham on slicks in the snow and full wets in the desert LOL

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

You mean like Lewis in his McLaren years? Max was no one until he literally had the fastest car on the grid.

What are you smoking man ?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

Ham is not the real deal (as we can see by the ups and downs of his career and now that he doesnt have a teammate that they order to move over for him with team orders every other week) and when Ferrari kicks him in the balls it's going to be funny. They'll prob put Ham on slicks in the snow and full wets in the desert LOL

That's for sure ...

Charlie has the same status as the pope in the vatican !
After 5 races in 2025 LEW will have to flee from Italy , the Tifosi's will eat him alive !

LEW will sink like a brick in the water . LEW's end is near ...
LEW will go down in red !

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

What you are smoking man ?

Agreed. None of these other guys could have even gotten in and finished a race in F1 at 18, let alone won one.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

Agreed. None of these other guys could have even gotten in and finished a race in F1 at 18, let alone won one.

MAX was 17 in his first F1 race , he didn't even had his Belgian driver's license yet..
In Belgium you must be 18 to get your driver's license .
But MAX won his first F1 race without driver's license...

This record will never be broken !

[dfox]

Just getting caught back up on this thread... so much Lewis/Max fighting. Glad I don't have a dog in that fight...

Terrible race for Checo.

Norris could have won that... too bad he got screwed by the safety car. Second time he got screwed this year, although obviously he got the safety car bonus in Miami.

Ferrari looking terrible. That pit stop with Leclerc, oof.

But man, that was one entertaining race. Finally!

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by dfox

Just getting caught back up on this thread... so much Lewis/Max fighting. Glad I don't have a dog in that fight...

Terrible race for Checo.

Norris could have won that... too bad he got screwed by the safety car. Second time he got screwed this year, although obviously he got the safety car bonus in Miami.

Ferrari looking terrible. That pit stop with Leclerc, oof.

But man, that was one entertaining race. Finally!

Well, there was the 1st SC but then people forget that after the 1st SC, Max pulled an 8 second gap pretty quickly. Then came the second car resetting the race back to 0. Then Max again pulled a 4 second gap. He did all of this in a car that was not well suited to this track while running a compromised setup, and suspension that didnt allow him to ride the curbs, losing time in sector 2. He didnt put a foot wrong, but pulled gaps in sector 1 and 3, and under the pressure Nor made mistakes and could never actually mount any challenge to Max despite being in a car that was faster. The difference is that if Max were in the Mclaren or MB, he would have won with ease, but Max doing what Max does, even in the slower car he was not beatable.

I am excited to see RB get back to track where they can get the car's ride height back down the ground for maximum downforce where they are well suited to.

I also think mclaren are due for some bad fortune as well. Nor also should have gotten a penalty for cutting across the run off in turn 1.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX was 17 in his first F1 race , he didn't even had his Belgian driver's license yet..
In Belgium you must be 18 to get your driver's license .
But MAX won his first F1 race without driver's license...

This record will never be broken !

B Post has been erratic over here, how about from your side.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

What are you smoking man ?

Ok, and? Lew won a championship his second year - he was literally one accident away from winning one his rookie season against the defending world champion who "beat" Schumacher.

Max is overrated and boring. Has the personality of a wet paperbag, just above average race craft. This whole forum goes on about Lewis losing to Russell and Roseberg, when straight up Lewis destroyed them both - it too team sabotage (Roseberg) and Lewis being the testing mule (2022) for him to "lose"

Max was getting stomped by Danny, and Danny was just good - never great. Now Max is teamed with an aggressively mediocre Perez in the fastest car on the grid and we are going to pretend that he's always been great?

It took literally FIA and all of Mercedes former staff PLUS a salary cap for Max to win.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Ok, and? Lew won a championship his second year - he was literally one accident away from winning one his rookie season against the defending world champion who "beat" Schumacher.

Max is overrated and boring. Has the personality of a wet paperbag, just above average race craft. This whole forum goes on about Lewis losing to Russell and Roseberg, when straight up Lewis destroyed them both - it too team sabotage (Roseberg) and Lewis being the testing mule (2022) for him to "lose"

Max was getting stomped by Danny, and Danny was just good - never great. Now Max is teamed with an aggressively mediocre Perez in the fastest car on the grid and we are going to pretend that he's always been great?

It took literally FIA and all of Mercedes former staff PLUS a salary cap for Max to win.

It's better to have the personality of a wet paperbag than the personality from a fashion doll like LEW.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

B Post has been erratic over here, how about from your side.

Bimmerpost was completely down over here and for everyone . I think it took like 2 hours .
I always test it here => https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/


This was interesting to see in lap 31 ...

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

It's better to have the personality of a wet paperbag than the personality from a fashion doll like LEW.

Agree to disagree. At least Lewis has a personality and hobbies that don't include being a robot.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Ok, and? Lew won a championship his second year - he was literally one accident away from winning one his rookie season against the defending world champion who "beat" Schumacher.

Max is overrated and boring. Has the personality of a wet paperbag, just above average race craft. This whole forum goes on about Lewis losing to Russell and Roseberg, when straight up Lewis destroyed them both - it too team sabotage (Roseberg) and Lewis being the testing mule (2022) for him to "lose"

Max was getting stomped by Danny, and Danny was just good - never great. Now Max is teamed with an aggressively mediocre Perez in the fastest car on the grid and we are going to pretend that he's always been great?

It took literally FIA and all of Mercedes former staff PLUS a salary cap for Max to win.

Seriously you are delusional. Ham only won due to a cheating scandal that the FIA knew about and covered up all while he was also helping Mclaren steal data and IP from Ferrari. The latter being the biggest cheating scandal in F1 history where they were stripped of all points and fined $100MM.
Then the next few years Ham was anonymous in F1 despite having arguably one of the best two cars while he got trounced by Vet who wasnt all that great. Then MB gives him an engine with 80-100 more hp than every other car in the field and he wins...hmm wonder why? He was driving an F1 car while everyone else was driving an F4 car. And only one of those drivers ever made an impression and an impressive one at that - it was Max at 17 years old having the skill and natural ability that Ham didnt have even at 23 and never did. Even Lauda who is one of the best said Max was the talent of the century - not Ham who he knew well, but Max who he knew was more talented. He worked for MB so that is telling.
Then in 2021 Max has the greatest all around season in modern F1 and beats Ham despite MB attempts to cheat with crashgate 2 and 3. Then in 2022 and 2023 Max has yet again progressively two more of what are the single best seasons EVER in F1 HISTORY with a solid car while Ham struggles without a massive amount of hp advantage while even his below avg teammate wins a race. Kind of crazy that you take out the cheating and the 80-100 hp and Ham's career would look like a total and utter failure
Now at just 26 Max is more accomplished in this sport and hitting milestones well before Ham could despite having a top 2 car every year of his career until this year. M

Ham is the single most overrated driver in motorsport history. His skill evades him when he actually needs to race and it's quite evident. He lost to Ros - that alone tells you all you need to know about his 'talent' or lack thereof. And he needed team orders on many occasions to get past Bot - one of the worst on the grid. Now he cant even beat Rus who is a bottom of the barrel driver.

Max on the other hand absolutely destroys his teammates and everyone around him. He is a legend for being the one to knock Ham off while beating more WDC holder than anyone ever has - Kim, Ham, Vet, Alo. Max got stomped by Ric? Nope - in Max's rookie season when Ric was #2 in WDC, Max had the same number of wins and only 1 less podium despite no experience while Ric was easily one of the top F1 drivers at the time. After that Max crushed him like he did Sai, Gas, Alb etc who if you look at the grid, most of them were Max's teammates and are all highly rated and well ahead of Bot and Ros, and Rus LOL.

[E92inNC]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

I'm going to the race next year...packing my poncho just incase.

Same, I’m planning on taking my nephew Sat-Tuesday, 11 days. Our first F1 race, should be a good time. Also my first time in the northeastern states and Canada.

Originally Posted by G30M

Marko says they offered Sainz first dibs at contract but the pay is much lower than Audi's offer. After a few weeks Sainz didn't take it up and they gave it to Checo. I do tend to believe Marko coz he's an open book.

There’s really no seats left for him now if he’s dead set on competing and not be mired in the midfield or back of the grid. I’m starting to think he’s going to sit out a year and try to pick up a seat with the new regulations. I kinda feel bad for him being in this situation, I’d rather Ferrari had kept him, he’s improved each year at the team.

Originally Posted by ptack

You have to hope that Red Bull believes it still has enough upgrades left in the car to compensate for Perez. If they don't this could look like one of the dumbest driver decisions of all time if Max wins the world championship, but Red Bull loses the constructor's title because Perez can't win enough points.

If he continues to qualify in the midfield, his chances of getting into accidents also goes up and it further limits the team’s ability to upgrade against the budget cap. Frankly put, the car is arguably still the best on the grid currently even though the margin looks very close and he needs to be in the top 4 consistently if this extension is to work out.

[dfox]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

Well, there was the 1st SC but then people forget that after the 1st SC, Max pulled an 8 second gap pretty quickly. Then came the second car resetting the race back to 0. Then Max again pulled a 4 second gap. He did all of this in a car that was not well suited to this track while running a compromised setup, and suspension that didnt allow him to ride the curbs, losing time in sector 2. He didnt put a foot wrong, but pulled gaps in sector 1 and 3, and under the pressure Nor made mistakes and could never actually mount any challenge to Max despite being in a car that was faster. The difference is that if Max were in the Mclaren or MB, he would have won with ease, but Max doing what Max does, even in the slower car he was not beatable.

I am excited to see RB get back to track where they can get the car's ride height back down the ground for maximum downforce where they are well suited to.

I also think mclaren are due for some bad fortune as well. Nor also should have gotten a penalty for cutting across the run off in turn 1.

Norris was 6 seconds ahead of Max when the first safety car came out, but Norris dropped 2 places because of it. He had to run behind Russel for almost 20 laps. The decision to overcut Russel worked andgot him back to second, but he wasn't able to keep up. Max did pull a nice lead on the last 20 laps, but I'm not convinced that Norris couldn't have kept Max behind him, running in clean air.

Any suggestion that Max would have "won with ease" in the McLaren or MB is complete conjecture.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

Seriously you are delusional. Ham only won due to a cheating scandal that the FIA knew about and covered up all while he was also helping Mclaren steal data and IP from Ferrari. The latter being the biggest cheating scandal in F1 history where they were stripped of all points and fined $100MM.
Then the next few years Ham was anonymous in F1 despite having arguably one of the best two cars while he got trounced by Vet who wasnt all that great. Then MB gives him an engine with 80-100 more hp than every other car in the field and he wins...hmm wonder why? He was driving an F1 car while everyone else was driving an F4 car. And only one of those drivers ever made an impression and an impressive one at that - it was Max at 17 years old having the skill and natural ability that Ham didnt have even at 23 and never did. Even Lauda who is one of the best said Max was the talent of the century - not Ham who he knew well, but Max who he knew was more talented. He worked for MB so that is telling.
Then in 2021 Max has the greatest all around season in modern F1 and beats Ham despite MB attempts to cheat with crashgate 2 and 3. Then in 2022 and 2023 Max has yet again progressively two more of what are the single best seasons EVER in F1 HISTORY with a solid car while Ham struggles without a massive amount of hp advantage while even his below avg teammate wins a race. Kind of crazy that you take out the cheating and the 80-100 hp and Ham's career would look like a total and utter failure
Now at just 26 Max is more accomplished in this sport and hitting milestones well before Ham could despite having a top 2 car every year of his career until this year. M

Ham is the single most overrated driver in motorsport history. His skill evades him when he actually needs to race and it's quite evident. He lost to Ros - that alone tells you all you need to know about his 'talent' or lack thereof. And he needed team orders on many occasions to get past Bot - one of the worst on the grid. Now he cant even beat Rus who is a bottom of the barrel driver.

Max on the other hand absolutely destroys his teammates and everyone around him. He is a legend for being the one to knock Ham off while beating more WDC holder than anyone ever has - Kim, Ham, Vet, Alo. Max got stomped by Ric? Nope - in Max's rookie season when Ric was #2 in WDC, Max had the same number of wins and only 1 less podium despite no experience while Ric was easily one of the top F1 drivers at the time. After that Max crushed him like he did Sai, Gas, Alb etc who if you look at the grid, most of them were Max's teammates and are all highly rated and well ahead of Bot and Ros, and Rus LOL.

Spot on !

NIKI LAUDA :

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by dfox

Norris was 6 seconds ahead of Max when the first safety car came out, but Norris dropped 2 places because of it. He had to run behind Russel for almost 20 laps. The decision to overcut Russel worked andgot him back to second, but he wasn't able to keep up. Max did pull a nice lead on the last 20 laps, but I'm not convinced that Norris couldn't have kept Max behind him, running in clean air.

Any suggestion that Max would have "won with ease" in the McLaren or MB is complete conjecture.

I think Max in either of those cars would have had a better chance to win than either Nor or Rus that is for sure. Fact remains, the SC did wipe out a large gap for Max, and then he did what he needed to, to win. Nor never got even remotely close enough to Max to even mount a challenge, and he had plenty of laps to do so. Max managed the tires, and lines MUCH better and didnt make mistakes like Nor did. He and Rus have a tendency to make costly errors when it matters. If Mclaren ever lets Pia actually race, Nor is going to be in a world of pain because he is a more talented driver than Nor and drives a more 'Max-like' line.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by dfox

Norris was 6 seconds ahead of Max when the first safety car came out, but Norris dropped 2 places because of it. He had to run behind Russel for almost 20 laps. The decision to overcut Russel worked andgot him back to second, but he wasn't able to keep up. Max did pull a nice lead on the last 20 laps, but I'm not convinced that Norris couldn't have kept Max behind him, running in clean air.

Any suggestion that Max would have "won with ease" in the McLaren or MB is complete conjecture.

The McLaren was the fastest car on track ...

The RB20 is not the dominant car anymore . MAX won this race by the MAX-Factor .
Just look where Checo was in his RB20...

Amen !

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The McLaren was the fastest car on track ...

The RB20 is not the dominant car anymore . MAX won this race by the MAX-Factor .
Just look where Checo was in his RB20...

Amen !

Let's hope it goes back to Max crushing everyone at the majority of the upcoming traditional tracks and Per scoring top 3/4 finishes. Plus I can't wait for a big RB upgrade which I hope they can land a 3 or 4 tenths package.

[MontyB1]

A lot bubbling up about Perez and the team asking him to bring the car back unsafe to avoid a safety car for Max. Yes Perez has got a 3 place grid penalty but others pushing that isn’t a big enough punishment.

Suspect nothing more will happen but not good form on Red Bull considering the dangers these days.

Perez - how he keeps that seat for a top team and the best car on the grid by far is a travesty. Anyone else in the top 10 should have the car into Q3 same as Max, even Max commented on it in his driver interview after the race then didn’t comment further.

With the rest of the grid catching up going to be interesting to see how this plays out why they announced the signature so early is just plain odd unless it’s some of the power play between CH and Helmet playing out.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

Let's hope it goes back to Max crushing everyone at the majority of the upcoming traditional tracks and Per scoring top 3/4 finishes. Plus I can't wait for a big RB upgrade which I hope they can land a 3 or 4 tenths package.

Must be on the way soon but this hard ride config miss-match has to be sorted first, thinking now what the kerb layout is in Barcelona.