[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by Dino GT

I don`t disagree with you, but their bread and butter from the old days, like their 3 and 5 series sucks nowadays. They build their reputation on sports cars and now they just handle like any other car. “The Ultimate Driving Machine” is just with their M cars and M Sport cars, everything is "M" this "M" that nowadays. After the E series they forgot that they were “The Ultimate Driving Machine” car company.

I said I wasn't going to play but I've changed my mind.

You comments are totally understandable and I know a lot of people will agree with your post.

But, as a long-time 5 series owner and a current 3-series owner, I've owned both the back-in-the-day BMWs and the current ones. While my '88 528e MT was an amazing car that I drove for 10 years and had in the family for another 10, it simply did not hold a candle to more modern BMWs in any category except possibly steering feel. My first E39 was much better. My second E39 was even better, with the M-sport package including sport suspension and 3:15 differential. The funny thing is, my current 2014 328i M-sport with DHP and Dinan Shockware with go flat tires is better, to me, in every way than the beloved E39. Just as fast. Just as quick. Twice the gas mileage. I've driven base 3er as loaners and I get why people say they suck. But with DHP and go flats, they are much better.

What's happened since the print ad for that 733 was published? BMW has gone from a niche performance car brand to a major global car company. In order to accomplish that impressive accomplishment, they had to design, build, and market cars for the masses. They knew the masses could care less about stiff handling and precise steering. So, I think BMW purposely "softened up" their base offerings to reach a larger audience. The more sporty versions were available through options, packages, and sport models if a buyer wanted those things.

Sure, BMW exploited and leveraged the M symbol which is off-putting to true M owners. But, the true M car market is tiny. BMW wanted to grow and as a business, that's how they chose to do it. It's hard to argue the success of that strategy.

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by bayarea328xit

I'll never forget the day I drove a BMW for the first time - my friend let me drive his manual E36 M3 sedan - must have been around spring of 1999. It totally changed my view of how a car should drive. I purchased my first BMW in spring of 2001.

Same thing happened to me. My brother had a 2002. I drove it back in '72 and swore I'd buy a BMW when I could afford one. It took 15 years for me to get to that point (college, house, kids), but I finally got there and I've been smiling ever since.

Here's the car that got it started for me. I'd love to have this car today!

[Dino GT]

Originally Posted by sygazelle

Same thing happened to me. My brother had a 2002. I drove it back in '72 and swore I'd buy a BMW when I could afford one. It took 15 years for me to get to that point (college, house, kids), but I finally got there and I've been smiling ever since.

Here's the car that got it started for me. I'd love to have this car today!

The first BMW that I drove was a 2002 also back in 1980 or so.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

What happened?

[JIMOLDFED]

After 40 plus years in the USG I can definitely see this happening - LOL

[cb804]

Wow, the LOL thread is now back to LOL!!!

[F30lolz]

Quincy Carter

[Murf993]

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by Dino GT

The first BMW that I drove was a 2002 also back in 1980 or so.

After driving VWs and American cars, driving my brother's 2002 was a life-changing experience. My brother and his wife and me and my wife took a road trip in it. 4 adults (, luggage, no problem. The car was amazing for its day.

I wish I could have bought the 2002 from him when he sold it, but I was not in the financial position to do that. But, I still have the girl in the photo. We will be married 50 years in August!

[SickGTR]

Originally Posted by F30lolz

Quincy Carter

Ha ha ha !!! I'm an Eagles fan, so can't say shit but nothing better than Cowgirls losing. They fucking blow!!! How bout them Cowboys. Great run play with no time outs🤪. Dak is an idiot!! Then praises the fans for throwing shit at the refs. Classy M F'er

[sygazelle]

I want to apologize for taking this thread off course with talk about BMWs. I was just responding to another post and really wasn't paying attention to the fact that it's the LOL Pic Thread. I promise to do better.

This is me trying to get back on track by posting a funny photo:

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by SickGTR

Ha ha ha !!! I'm an Eagles fan, so can't say shit but nothing better than Cowgirls losing. They fucking blow!!! How bout them Cowboys. Great run play with no time outs🤪. Dak is an idiot!! Then praises the fans for throwing shit at the refs. Classy M F'er

^^

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by F30lolz

Quincy Carter

^^^

[shoei]

Literally rest of the week we could just post all the Dallas Cowboys memes. They're like the clap. The gift that just keeps on giving.

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by shoei

Literally rest of the week we could just post all the Dallas Cowboys memes. They're like the clap. The gift that just keeps on giving.

I think we should end this nonsense and limit the number of memes to the number of Dallas penalties. In that case, I think we still have a few memes remaining.

[shoei]

Originally Posted by sygazelle

I think we should end this nonsense and limit the number of memes to the number of Dallas penalties. In that case, I think we still have a few memes remaining.

"4971 more to go."

[Dpc2u]

Back in the day....

[Dino GT]

Corrr

[Dino GT]

[Dino GT]

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by shoei

"4971 more to go."

Okay, here's one last one for me, trying to stay true to the thread topic and stick it to "America's?:confused 2 Team?" at the same time.

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by sygazelle

Okay, here's one last one for me, trying to stay true to the thread topic and stick it to "America's?:confused 2 Team?" at the same time.

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