[TK-421]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

Pain is just weakness leaving the body. Enjoy it, that pain you're feeling is just making you stronger. Just man up and suck it up..

One of my favorite sayings ever

[oldaccount]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

Pain is just weakness leaving the body. Enjoy it, that pain you're feeling is just making you stronger. Just man up and suck it up..

Or an indication of tissue damage. One or the other.

[Turbo>NA]

Originally Posted by Suareezay

Or an indication of tissue damage. One or the other.

+1 I think thats what happened --__--

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by Suareezay

Or an indication of tissue damage. One or the other.

Oh now you're just using logic and reason. Try saying that to a DI on Parris Island and you'll see some serious tissue damage.

[zke36]

take minimal protein before workout. 10-20g protein after with a sports drink for the carbs.

[.:bHd:.]

Originally Posted by dpwr

that's a bad schedule, this would be better
day1 chest/legs
day2 off
day3 bi's/tri's
day4 cardio/abs
day5 sholders/back

That's exactly what I do.. Is exercising your legs really that important? Heard it builds a lot of testosterone and burns a lot of calories since they are the biggest muscle group in your body. I just hate doing it cuz I cant walk for a week after lol

[oldaccount]

Originally Posted by .:bHd:.

That's exactly what I do.. Is exercising your legs really that important? Heard it builds a lot of testosterone and burns a lot of calories since they are the biggest muscle group in your body. I just hate doing it cuz I cant walk for a week after lol

do you want bigger/stronger legs, or to increase performance in movements where legs are involved?

If yes, then training them is important.
If no, then it's not.

The affect that fullbody movements have on hormone levels is utterly insignificant, and weight training doesn't burn many calories.

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by Suareezay

do you want bigger/stronger legs, or to increase performance in movements where legs are involved?

If yes, then training them is important.
If no, then it's not.

The affect that fullbody movements have on hormone levels is utterly insignificant, and weight training doesn't burn many calories.

Strong legs are an integral part of the process. Working you legs with squats, stiff-legged deads, etc will give you a nice "full" looking frame that most pros have. I know this from experience because at one point I injured my knee and had to cut out my leg work out for almost a year. I was big but I did not have that over all thickness that is developed thanks to squats and stiff-legged deads. Plus you dont want to be that guy at the beach with tiny legs are a large upper body.

[oldaccount]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

Strong legs are an integral part of the process. Working you legs with squats, stiff-legged deads, etc will give you a nice "full" looking frame that most pros have. I know this from experience because at one point I injured my knee and had to cut out my leg work out for almost a year. I was big but I did not have that over all thickness that is developed thanks to squats and stiff-legged deads. Plus you dont want to be that guy at the beach with tiny legs are a large upper body.

very good. this is exactly why I posted "if you want bigger/stronger legs, then training them is important."

[.:bHd:.]

Don't really care about big legs tbh. They're big enough lol just wanted to know if it effects your upper body.

[Couch]

Originally Posted by Suareezay

do you want bigger/stronger legs, or to increase performance in movements where legs are involved?

If yes, then training them is important.
If no, then it's not.

The affect that fullbody movements have on hormone levels is utterly insignificant, and weight training doesn't burn many calories.

That's incorrect. It burns a lot more than you think it does.

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by .:bHd:.

Don't really care about big legs tbh. They're big enough lol just wanted to know if it effects your upper body.

Your not hearing me man. Work your legs and the rest of your body will grow. Your strenght in other exercies will also greatly increase when you work your legs. Squats and stiff-legged deads do a lot more then just build strong legs.

If you don't believe me then do a REAL leg work out for about a month and a half and see how quickly your overall body strenght increases.

[oldaccount]

Originally Posted by Couch

That's incorrect. It burns a lot more than you think it does.

No, it's correct. I think it burns about 7-9 calories per minute, and it turns out it actually does burn about 7-9 calories per minute. So no, it doesn't burn more than I think it does. This only applies to the actual time spent lifting, which isn't much.

Which is exactly why calorie restriction and cardio are used when dieting. They're easier and more effective than weighttraining at creating a calorie deficit.

[Couch]

Originally Posted by Suareezay

No, it's correct. I think it burns about 7-9 calories per minute, and it turns out it actually does burn about 7-9 calories per minute. So no, it doesn't burn more than I think it does. This only applies to the actual time spent lifting, which isn't much.

Which is exactly why calorie restriction and cardio are used when dieting. They're easier and more effective than weighttraining at creating a calorie deficit.

Hmm...I had always heard that you burn upwards of 100 calories. Maybe they were referring to the old school where you did a whole body workout?

[zke36]

Originally Posted by .:bHd:.

Don't really care about big legs tbh. They're big enough lol just wanted to know if it effects your upper body.

Legs greatly effect upper body. They burn extra calories, and being the largest muscle in your body they will boost testosterone when worked increasing overall growth.

[oldaccount]

Originally Posted by Couch

Hmm...I had always heard that you burn upwards of 100 calories. Maybe they were referring to the old school where you did a whole body workout?

No idea. Does 100 calories mean per set, per minute, per hour, per workout, etc?

Sure, you can burn however many calories you want weight training, but past a certain point it will become counterproductive as youll have to increase intensity and/or volume in a situation (situation meaning a calorie-resticted diet) where ideally you want to decrease intensity and/or volume.

[mycoupe]

well, protein is for recovery. So...after would be the

[all8up]

Originally Posted by Couch

Hmm...I had always heard that you burn upwards of 100 calories. Maybe they were referring to the old school where you did a whole body workout?

Just an fyi...a lot of new programs include a full body WO. Give this link a look...

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_p...oulders/monday

[Hedges]

Work hard... and one day you guys will be like me..

[Singletrack]

The amount of calories burned "weight lifting" is heavily dependent on the program. There are superset workouts that can burn massive amounts of calories, just as an example.

I would also never suggest that someone exclude a body part (like legs); regardless of whatever arguments are being made about hormone levels.

[Couch]

Originally Posted by Singletrack

I would also never suggest that someone exclude a body part (like legs); regardless of whatever arguments are being made about hormone levels.

To me if you're lifting weights, weather for health or other reasons, not including legs in your workout doesn't make sense. When I first started lifting I rarely did legs, just calves. Now I focus on everything and it's incredible the difference working legs does for the overall body.

I think the #1 thing to remember about legs and why they are so important is that your upper torso sits atop them.

[Turbo>NA]

When I do teh split workouts should I go back and forth on teh body parts or finish one at a time?

For example: "its bi's/tri's day"

I first do one bi workout then go to a tri workout then back to a bi workout then back to a trai workout etc..?

Or should I finish bi workouts completely and then do tri's completely right after?