F1 2023: Saudi Arabian GP - Jeddah (Mar 19)

Autobacs · 03-19-2023, 03:40 PM

Shit happens. I'm sure AMR will learn the hard lesson. Big picture is AMR has a good car and ALO has the opportunity to do very good things this season.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-19-2023, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Let Checo have this one but I'm disappointed Fernie lost third after being given a 10 second penalty,AM got over excited and didn't see it through well.

I'm pretty sure , Wolff got his eyes at the situation ...

Wollf has put his car at this podium .

Yeah . Too bad for ALO .

And WTF is going on at Ferrari ?
Even Mercedes is faster . Ferrari dropped to the 4th team !

Call Binotto back ASAP !

Rono63 · 03-19-2023, 04:15 PM

Why did Max pull into the pit lane instead of the podium with Checo and Alonso?

M5Rick · 03-19-2023, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I'm pretty sure , Wolff got his eyes at the situation ...

Wollf has put his car at this podium .

Yeah . Too bad for ALO .

And WTF is going on at Ferrari ?
Even Mercedes is faster . Ferrari dropped to the 4th team !

Call Binotto back ASAP !

Ferrari made a mistake making Mattia to go and Fred may make things worse.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-19-2023, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rono63

Why did Max pull into the pit lane instead of the podium with Checo and Alonso?

Strange noises were coming from his driveshaft during the race .
More than once ,this was reported by MAX's onboard radio.
And I just read that his car felt out of balance ..
Check out my post # 292 => https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=292

So I think it was by issues .

///M Power-Belgium · 03-19-2023, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Ferrari made a mistake making Mattia to go and Fred may make things worse.

Yeah . Ferrari Fred wipes with a big broom through the team .
He is trying to get a clean Italian house . But the car is getting worse ...

Did you heard Charlie's onboard during the race ?

M5Rick · 03-19-2023, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Strange noises were coming from his driveshaft during the race .
More than once ,this was reported by MAX's onboard radio.
And I just read that his car felt out of balance ..
Check out my post # 292 => https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=292

So I think it was by issues .

It was both new drive shafts fitted so could be an internal gearbox noise travelling through a shaft, yet the RB pit monitors couldn't detect anything so may have been something else like a balancer shaft out of sync?

M5Rick · 03-19-2023, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah . Ferrari Fred wipes with a big broom through the team .
He is trying to get a clean Italian house . But the car is getting worse ...

Did you heard Charlie's onboard during the race ?

No my friend but I guess it's not something from an elocution class

I'll listen to it in the replay later.

Autobacs · 03-19-2023, 04:48 PM

Bring back Masi. These stewards took 35 laps and the completion of the award ceremony before they figured out AMR had another penalty

GuidoK · 03-19-2023, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Autobacs

Bring back Masi. These stewards took 35 laps and the completion of the award ceremony before they figured out AMR had another penalty

yeah that was a clown show.
Even the notification that it was under investigation (and that speculations started it would only be 5sec) came far to late.

That should be noticed and decided within 5minutes or so, so a team/driver can change their strategy on that.

I think now more mistakes are made than under Masi. Especially last year Suzuka when a recovery vehicle was on track when cars (Gasly at least) were still driving on track at speed to catch up to the safety car.
Especially since the last F1 death (Bianchi) was also on Suzuka under similar circumstances (Bianchi drove into a recovery vehicle)
This lead to the decision to not rotate race directors anymore. Clearly this was a big mistake due to inexperience imho. And Freitas has left the stage.

Autobacs · 03-19-2023, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

yeah that was a clown show.
Even the notification that it was under investigation (and that speculations started it would only be 5sec) came far to late.

That should be noticed and decided within 5minutes or so, so a team/driver can change their strategy on that.

Exactly.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-19-2023, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

No my friend but I guess it's not something from an elocution class

I'll listen to it in the replay later.

Charlie said : F@ck ,what ? No ? You said that already 3 times to me ...

It was very clear , Charlie wasn't happy with his race situation .
It's rumble in the Ferrari jungle ...

M5Rick · 03-19-2023, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Charlie said : F@ck ,what ? No ? You said that already 3 times to me ...

It was very clear , Charlie wasn't happy with his race situation .
It's rumble in the Ferrari jungle ...

Could be another strat b@lls up call from the same lap top geek.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-19-2023, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by g21

to be fair, RB told Max we're not concerned about fastest lap

Max reply: I am

so it was his initiative, RB didn't engineer this, they just "forgot" to tell Perez of his intentions ...

Negative !
In the last 5 laps Checo got the onboard message from his engineer : "FREE TO PUSH" !

///M Power-Belgium · 03-19-2023, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Could be another strat b@lls up call from the same lap top geek.

Sure . From what I can see is that Ferrari Fred is losing it very quickly .

Too bad . So far is Ferrari no competition anymore ..
And I don't see progress for Ferrari in the coming races .

Last year we would have said , Jeddah is a Ferrari track .

M5Rick · 03-19-2023, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Sure . From what I can see is that Ferrari Fred is losing it very quickly .

Too bad . So far is Ferrari no competition anymore ..
And I don't see progress for Ferrari in the coming races .

Last year we would have said , Jeddah is a Ferrari track .

Looks like Fred won't last long himself at this rate.

Killed by Death · 03-19-2023, 06:24 PM

Ferrari Fred

dmatre · 03-19-2023, 06:28 PM

FIA reverse penalty, Alonso gets 100th podium!

Toto’s tears not carrying so much weight this year….

a5m · 03-19-2023, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dmatre

FIA reverse penalty, Alonso gets 100th podium!

Toto’s tears not carrying so much weight this year….

Holy **** they did lmao. This is beyond clown show.

Blindside_137 · 03-19-2023, 07:14 PM

Aston martin apparently showed FIA 7 different examples where a jack was touching a car and not previously penalized.

They were prepared.

M-technik-3 · 03-19-2023, 07:16 PM

I rout for Max but awesome they gave Papa Alonso his spot back. He earned that spot!

3798j · 03-19-2023, 07:17 PM

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