[Transfer]

Sooo new design language.

What will they think of next?

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Patton250

The truth is some men just have a very difficult time with change. That's why these type of men don't run big companies like Apple or Samsung. If they did we still have the iPhone 1 and black and white television sets.

Hilarious

If Steve Jobs was alive I wouldn't have a stupid notch on top of my iPhone screen

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Hilarious

If Steve Jobs was alive I wouldn't have a stupid notch on top of my iPhone screen

And where do you reckon he would then affix the speaker, light sensor and 720p front-facing camera? Which is the sole purpose of the notch; to encompassing that mandatory hardware and still utilize as much of the screen real estate as possible - all in one inconspicuous and sleek package.

Jobs was a talented visionary and with the right market timing and a lot of luck, he was able to introduce some revolutionary and successful products but he was not some yahweh that could of somehow defy engineering physical limitations.


To stay on topic, all the M2 naysayers needs to let it go; the specs and manual transmission is going to sell itself. For first two years of its release, there is going to be a huge feeding frenzy, so even if you so choose to hate-buy one, it's going to be sold out like the PS5, anyways..

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Poochie

And where do you reckon he would then affix the speaker, light sensor and 720p front-facing camera? Which is the sole purpose of the notch; to encompassing that mandatory hardware and still utilize as much of the screen real estate as possible - all in one inconspicuous and sleek package.

Jobs was a talented visionary and with the right market timing and a lot of luck, he was able to introduce some revolutionary and successful products but he was not some yahweh that could of somehow defy engineering physical limitations.

There is a whole list of things I would call Steve Jobs but lucky would not be one of them.

I do believe the iPhone 12 design would be better if the man was still alive. It would also operate better. Having said that it’s still pretty bad ass.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Poochie

And where do you reckon he would then affix the speaker, light sensor and 720p front-facing camera? Which is the sole purpose of the notch; to encompassing that mandatory hardware and still utilize as much of the screen real estate as possible - all in one inconspicuous and sleek package.

Jobs was a talented visionary and with the right market timing and a lot of luck, he was able to introduce some revolutionary and successful products but he was not some yahweh that could of somehow defy engineering physical limitations.


To stay on topic, all the M2 naysayers needs to let it go; the specs and manual transmission is going to sell itself. For first two years of its release, there is going to be a huge feeding frenzy, so even if you so choose to hate-buy one, it's going to be sold out like the PS5, anyways..

Steve was a perfectionist. He would've fired whoever came up with that design.

He would've insisted they come up with another way.

[Soul Coughing]

Very upsetting as I thought the M2 would be saved from the G80 styling debacle, but it seems like my F80 will be the last BMW I end up buying. Finger's crossed the LCI pulls back some of the ugly and makes the M2 something I'd like to buy.

[Game]

Originally Posted by Soul Coughing

Very upsetting as I thought the M2 would be saved from the G80 styling debacle, but it seems like my F80 will be the last BMW I end up buying. Finger's crossed the LCI pulls back some of the ugly and makes the M2 something I'd like to buy.

Well it's not going to have huge grills...so they sort of did.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Soul Coughing

Very upsetting as I thought the M2 would be saved from the G80 styling debacle, but it seems like my F80 will be the last BMW I end up buying. Finger's crossed the LCI pulls back some of the ugly and makes the M2 something I'd like to buy.

Wait, the G87 M2 will not go into production any earlier than December 2022 and right now - based on speculation - you are already writing it off and hoping that "the LCI pulls back some of the ugly and makes the M2 something I'd like to buy" scheduled to go into production in April 2025 ?

[TAZ007]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Wait, the G87 M2 will not go into production any earlier than December 2023 and right now - based on speculation - you are already writing it off and hoping that "the LCI pulls back some of the ugly and makes the M2 something I'd like to buy" scheduled to go into production in April 2025 ?

Will that be the last of the ICEs?

[swagon]

Originally Posted by TAZ007

Will that be the last of the ICEs?

Last pure ICE M

[TAZ007]

Originally Posted by swagon

Last pure ICE M

I'm afraid you are correct.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by TAZ007

Will that be the last of the ICEs?

See here:

Originally Posted by lemetier

Size doesn't increase dramatically with the exception of track/body width. G42 is as wide as current F87 with G87 increased even further. The G87 is going to be a rather special car. It will be the final non-hybridized ICE volume production model released, starting with a 450ps 6MT Pure.

[TAZ007]

Originally Posted by Artemis

See here:

Thanks. It might be one to consider.

[Soul Coughing]

Originally Posted by Game

Well it's not going to have huge grills...so they sort of did.

True! It's not as bad as the G8*, so there's that going for it!

Originally Posted by Artemis

Wait, the G87 M2 will not go into production any earlier than December 2022 and right now - based on speculation - you are already writing it off and hoping that "the LCI pulls back some of the ugly and makes the M2 something I'd like to buy" scheduled to go into production in April 2025 ?

It's based on the speculation that the car looks like it will in these photos. If they end up not using the design, then yes, I'd love to have one in the garage! If it means changing as part of the LCI, then that too!

I remember seeing the preproduction spy shot of the G8* grill and everyone hoped that it wouldn't be the actual design, but then it ended up being exactly the same in the production car, so I'm not really holding out much hope that things will change! Here's to it infact not being what we see here!

Originally Posted by swagon

Last pure ICE M

[heavyD^2]

The amount of anguish and drama from camo photos is amusing. I suppose that is a sign of the times with internet overreaction to anything and everything but what ever happened to waiting for the final product before drawing conclusions?

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

The amount of anguish and drama from camo photos is amusing. I suppose that is a sign of the times with internet overreaction to anything and everything but what ever happened to waiting for the final product before drawing conclusions?

I agree. It makes me wish I was a practicing psychiatrist. I could’ve made a fortune off of people from this forum just on the G80 launch alone.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

The amount of anguish and drama from camo photos is amusing. I suppose that is a sign of the times with internet overreaction to anything and everything but what ever happened to waiting for the final product before drawing conclusions?

We live in a world full of instant gratification and snowflakes.

[heavyD^2]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

We live in a world full of instant gratification and snowflakes.

You get your car yet? Pics?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

You get your car yet? Pics?

January-ish. My car doesn't finish production until November. The wait hurts!

[EXE46]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

The amount of anguish and drama from camo photos is amusing. I suppose that is a sign of the times with internet overreaction to anything and everything but what ever happened to waiting for the final product before drawing conclusions?

I haven't been active on BMW car forums for about a decade since E46fanatics.com and it sure is an eye opener these days with these new age BMW fanboys. I don't recall seeing this much hysteria back in the E36/E46 era. We have folks going on a year now with their incessant ramblings.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by EXE46

I haven't been active on BMW car forums for about a decade since E46fanatics.com and it sure is an eye opener these days with these new age BMW fanboys. I don't recall seeing this much hysteria back in the E36/E46 era. We have folks going on a year now with their incessant ramblings.

There was no social media back then. We have truly opened the gates to hell with Social media.

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There was no social media back then. We have truly opened the gates to hell with Social media.

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