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      08-12-2021, 01:48 AM   #4159
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I mean, you already determined the risk outweighs the reward. Definitely don't load your firearms outside where anyone over the height of a Smurf can see it.

Between overthinking, worrying, sheriffs department and the rookies you've mentioned, why over complicate things? If you're going to the range, take your weapons out to your vehicle in cases or totes. They can't even be in your vehicle unless it's secured in the trunk - shooting range or not.

This sounds like a non-complicated situation. You carrying your weapons around your property IN California is just never gonna go well, blessings from an officer or not.
True, veey true. I just like to keep at least 1 firearm by my side at all times. I do a lot of work in my garage and spend a lot of time there so....I always carry something back and forth, but on the property and for protection.
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Don't go. Sedan_Clan Will tell you what you need to know. It's the whole point of this thread. Give him some time though. It's his day off he might be getting busy
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Don't go. Sedan_Clan Will tell you what you need to know. It's the whole point of this thread.
Thanks, appreciate it.
As I said, no disrespect to LEOs, but we all know MANY of them do not belong on the streets.
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I mean, you already determined the risk outweighs the reward. Definitely don't load your firearms outside where anyone over the height of a Smurf can see it.

Between overthinking, worrying, sheriffs department and the rookies you've mentioned, why over complicate things? If you're going to the range, take your weapons out to your vehicle in cases or totes. They can't even be in your vehicle unless it's secured in the trunk - shooting range or not.

This sounds like a non-complicated situation. You carrying your weapons around your property IN California is just never gonna go well, blessings from an officer or not.
True, veey true. I just like to keep at least 1 firearm by my side at all times. I do a lot of work in my garage and spend a lot of time there so....I always carry something back and forth, but on the property and for protection.
Then keep the glock or ruger on you if you feel compelled. It is CA - far less guns to worry about out there, lol. No need to have a Benelli hung over your shoulder to work in the garage. This ain't TX man.
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Then keep the glock or ruger on you if you feel compelled. It is CA - far less guns to worry about out there, lol. No need to have a Benelli hung over your shoulder to work in the garage. This ain't TX man.
Lots of guns in CPT.
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      08-12-2021, 02:39 AM   #4165
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So the detached garage is behind your property line?
Its all on the property, just detached. Have a brick wall all around but only 3ft high, so anyone can look and see into my yard.
You see, there's nuance to the question and the answer (…and some of the responses already covered a few of the issues that will complicate the situation). You live in the city - I'm assuming Compton, which is patrolled by my department - and walking around with guns visible in an environment where your 3' wall doesn't factor into your expectation of privacy is a recipe for law enforcement contact(s). The curtilage of your property sounds like it's clearly visible to neighbors, passerby's, etc. If you lived in the country or an area where you had an expanse of land, my response would be different.
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Oh he's in Compton? Lmaaoooo. Yeah if you asking these type questions and have your hobby on display? That's not the neighborhood to broadcast you have firearms.

Just bump California Love or Live and Die In LA whenever you're working in the garage and nobody will come bother you.
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Over on E46Fanatics, we would regularly have these "Ask a....." threads pop up in our Off Topic section from time to time, so I thought I would start one here to see how the member base takes to it. So ask me anything related to the profession (...Why certain things are done? Do we really eat donuts every day? Etc... ).
do you have AED's in your vehicles?
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Over on E46Fanatics, we would regularly have these "Ask a....." threads pop up in our Off Topic section from time to time, so I thought I would start one here to see how the member base takes to it. So ask me anything related to the profession (...Why certain things are done? Do we really eat donuts every day? Etc... ).
do you have AED's in your vehicles?
We do not. I've got a bunch of Narcan though.
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I assumed for sure that would be the case. You should have AEDs for sure in vehicles to protect your own FIRST then the community. Thanks for all you do Each and EVERY Day !! I can help you all with that let me know.
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I assumed for sure that would be the case. You should have AEDs for sure in vehicles to protect your own FIRST then the community. Thanks for all you do Each and EVERY Day !! I can help you all with that let me know.
That's a great proposition. Whether the county is up for purchasing that many AED's is another story. We haven't even outfitted all of the stations with body cameras yet. The costs associated with outfitting a department as large as ours is an expensive endeavor indeed.

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True, veey true. I just like to keep at least 1 firearm by my side at all times. I do a lot of work in my garage and spend a lot of time there so....I always carry something back and forth, but on the property and for protection.
1. If you HAVE to carry it to the garage, and you're talking about having it by your side at all times, holster it and carry concealed. Perfectly legal on your own property.

2. If you're that close to the police station with that much cop traffic whether rookies or otherwise...wtf are you worried about so much? Only the dumbest idiots start some shit in full view of the police station / areas known to be highly and frequently patrolled. And I'm pretty sure you can handle at least the dumbest idiots.

3. If you have multiples, just buy a small safe for the garage and stash one in there under your workbench...something like this.
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Only the dumbest idiots start some shit in full view of the police station / areas known to be highly and frequently patrolled. And I'm pretty sure you can handle at least the dumbest idiots.
Sadly, this isn’t the case in Liberty Square, aka Pork n Beans in Miami. There is a police station a block away and there used to be patrol cars parked in every corner every night as the gang/drug violence was getting out of hand. However, there is life after death for Pork n Beans. Recently I drove by the area in broad daylight (even that is risky) and snapped some photos. They’re tearing down the projects and building new projects? But they look nicer!
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Fair enough that it's not a non-zero chance of something happening. But if I had drug / gang violence on my block on the daily I'd be retrofitting these to my house / fence....

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For us, impact weapons and tasers fall into the same force threshold, so it just depends on the circumstances. The batons require close distance and we are safer keeping distance until it becomes necessary to close it. I carry the standard PR24 baton in my war bag and I wear a collapsible ASP on my duty belt.
I have always wondered how effective those collapsible ASP are. They look no more substantial than an old car antenna. Obviously they must be more but I wonder if they work as well as the plain old baton.
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For us, impact weapons and tasers fall into the same force threshold, so it just depends on the circumstances. The batons require close distance and we are safer keeping distance until it becomes necessary to close it. I carry the standard PR24 baton in my war bag and I wear a collapsible ASP on my duty belt.
I have always wondered how effective those collapsible ASP are. They look no more substantial than an old car antenna. Obviously they must be more but I wonder if they work as well as the plain old baton.
You give up some component integrity for the portability, but they are strong……some stronger than others.
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For us, impact weapons and tasers fall into the same force threshold, so it just depends on the circumstances. The batons require close distance and we are safer keeping distance until it becomes necessary to close it. I carry the standard PR24 baton in my war bag and I wear a collapsible ASP on my duty belt.
I have always wondered how effective those collapsible ASP are. They look no more substantial than an old car antenna. Obviously they must be more but I wonder if they work as well as the plain old baton.
I posted a pic of my new baton in the firearms section. The new one has a baseball bat like handle on it which my previous one did not. This thing is strong AF when extended. Would not want to get hit by it.
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For us, impact weapons and tasers fall into the same force threshold, so it just depends on the circumstances. The batons require close distance and we are safer keeping distance until it becomes necessary to close it. I carry the standard PR24 baton in my war bag and I wear a collapsible ASP on my duty belt.
I have always wondered how effective those collapsible ASP are. They look no more substantial than an old car antenna. Obviously they must be more but I wonder if they work as well as the plain old baton.
I posted a pic of my new baton in the firearms section. The new one has a baseball bat like handle on it which my previous one did not. This thing is strong AF when extended. Would not want to get hit by it.
Monadnock is a good brand too. It's a little bigger than what I would want on my duty belt though.
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Excellent point for me to ask a Q

I recently advised an ex that a knife would be a better accompaniment to her home defense than the baton (Smith and Weston) that she had to accompany her Mace (pepper spray)

So my question is - Do batons stop a determent attacker?

I know pepper sprays limitations.
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Excellent point for me to ask a Q

I recently advised an ex that a knife would be a better accompaniment to her home defense than the baton (Smith and Weston) that she had to accompany her Mace (pepper spray)

So my question is - Do batons stop a determent attacker?

I know pepper sprays limitations.
Well they all have limitations, some user dependent and some chemical. Oleoresin capsicum spray doesn't always affect people; I've had partners get sprayed and brush it off like it was nothing. The baton, much like a knife, requires skill to utilize properly, and frankly I would rather utilize distance rather than attempt to close it. For a woman, I would advise her to skip the close quarter options and invest in firearms training……and a lot of it…..so she can manipulate it without thought and be proficient with it.
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