Anyone who is still struggle on the choice of manual and 8AT?

pizza240 · 10-10-2022, 10:08 AM

Lots of pro-manual in here. I'm sort of on the fence.

I'm probably getting the manual car because it won't be my only vehicle, and my other vehicle has a dual clutch transmission.

But I really do appreciate the quality and performance of the ZF8… and the extra power would be nice to have.

ZF8 does not perform like your typical auto. Even from the passenger's seat: most people thought my M240ix had a dual clutch because of how it shifted.
In the end, I still missed having a manual car and got MT in my previous M2C, which I recently traded in for a Macan GTS.

Sure, a ZF8 won't feel as engaged in gear as the manual but you won't hate it at all. It'll be fast, and shifting is still fun. It feels a lot like the Macan's PDK.

Apologies if that makes it harder to make a decision. I know plenty of people who regret getting manual over auto… but they're mostly Porsche guys.

Moflow · 10-10-2022, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rk95

It won't stall?

Pretty much. If you were determined you could probably still stall it. But I've tested pretty steep hill starts with no gas and the car just adds gas for you as you let out the clutch.

M2PDX · 10-10-2022, 02:51 PM

To be honest, you can't go wrong with either.

I'm going 6MT, but the ZF would also be a solid choice for the right circumstances!

Ezio · 10-10-2022, 02:58 PM

I have had manuals and autos over the years. Even had a E92 M3 with DCT before those went out of production. Currently daily drive a manual mustang and our family has M240i. So I totally understand both worlds.

The ZF is so good and you lose the ability to remote start

. A BMW M product is a fine tuned machine, not sure a manual fits it well. Where my mustang is rough, not nearly as comfortable, and loud.

I would be interested to drive a manual M car though, just think I would go with the auto for comfort.

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pizza240 Lieutenant 1138 Rep 579 Posts Drives: 2023 M3 Competition xDrive Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Greater Toronto Area iTrader: (0)	Lots of pro-manual in here. I'm sort of on the fence. I'm probably getting the manual car because it won't be my only vehicle, and my other vehicle has a dual clutch transmission. But I really do appreciate the quality and performance of the ZF8… and the extra power would be nice to have. ZF8 does not perform like your typical auto. Even from the passenger's seat: most people thought my M240ix had a dual clutch because of how it shifted. In the end, I still missed having a manual car and got MT in my previous M2C, which I recently traded in for a Macan GTS. Sure, a ZF8 won't feel as engaged in gear as the manual but you won't hate it at all. It'll be fast, and shifting is still fun. It feels a lot like the Macan's PDK. Apologies if that makes it harder to make a decision. I know plenty of people who regret getting manual over auto… but they're mostly Porsche guys. __________________ previous BMWs: '02 M3 6MT, '17 M240ix, '19 M2C 6MT
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M2PDX Lieutenant Colonel 3435 Rep 1,746 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Portland, Oregon iTrader: (0)	To be honest, you can't go wrong with either. I'm going 6MT, but the ZF would also be a solid choice for the right circumstances!
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Ezio Brigadier General 389 Rep 3,932 Posts Drives: 2023 Alfa Romeo, 2023 m240i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: MI iTrader: (0)	I have had manuals and autos over the years. Even had a E92 M3 with DCT before those went out of production. Currently daily drive a manual mustang and our family has M240i. So I totally understand both worlds. The ZF is so good and you lose the ability to remote start . A BMW M product is a fine tuned machine, not sure a manual fits it well. Where my mustang is rough, not nearly as comfortable, and loud. I would be interested to drive a manual M car though, just think I would go with the auto for comfort.
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