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      06-12-2022, 10:34 PM   #23
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Nah, SOP is 12/22, so US cars shipping (from MX) Jan/Feb and being held at "port" for a bit... basically a month later than the timeline we all saw for the G80/G82 launch.
Nothing is currently coming that quickly from the plant in Mexico to the U.S. VPCs and then onto Centers. Shipping is still bottlenecked. Late Feb to early March is reasonable if nothing improves on the logistical side.
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Nothing is currently coming that quickly from the plant in Mexico to the U.S. VPCs and then onto Centers. Shipping is still bottlenecked.
So you think it will be later than the April launch for the US?
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So you think it will be later than the April launch for the US?
No, edited above comment to reflect ETA.

BMW AG publicly announced that the G87 launch will take place in April of 2023, doubtful that is for the world. U.S. and Canada could be March and EU in April. Just a guess.

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No, edited above comment to reflect ETA.
Okay, on the same page then... G80/G82 was a Nov SOP with March Launch so them saying an April launch with Dec SOP makes sense. Shipping Jan/Feb plus being held up to coordinate the launch for April. @asap was suggesting we might not see them in the US until the summer.
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I saw an automatic as well as the manual in the pics so perhaps we will be getting M2C at launch and not just the base model.
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I saw an automatic as well as the manual in the pics so perhaps we will be getting M2C at launch and not just the base model.
The one with the auto, had the M seat belts and the manual did not. Did anyone else notice that? The base G80/82 does not get the M belts in the U.S., only the Competition Package does.
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The one with the auto, had the M seat belts and the manual did not. Did anyone else notice that? The base G80/82 does not get the M belts in the U.S., only the Competition Pkg does.
Good observation, I totally missed that. In the Shmee video review he even states that there is an M2 in MT and M2C in AT. I think he might have slipped up and wasn't suppose to let the cat out the bag. He also mentioned the M2C had more power.
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The one with the auto, had the M seat belts and the manual did not. Did anyone else notice that? The base G80/82 does not get the M belts in the U.S., only the Competition Package does.
Yes, I think the black/white camo M2 w/ auto is a Comp model. The colorful camo M2 w/ manual is a Base model.

I do believe those seats in the Base manual car are the actual standard M2 seats. They are the same seats the M240 gets in the US, but with alcantara inserts and M2 embossed in leather upper. OG M2-like seats. If true, BMW seems to be trying to keep the base price down(which is a good thing).
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Good observation, I totally missed that. In the Shmee video review he even states that there is an M2 in MT and M2C in AT. I think he might have slipped up and wasn't suppose to let the cat out the bag. He also mentioned the M2C had more power.
BMW clearly says same power about 4:20.
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Good observation, I totally missed that. In the Shmee video review he even states that there is an M2 in MT and M2C in AT. I think he might have slipped up and wasn't suppose to let the cat out the bag. He also mentioned the M2C had more power.
I noticed that he did that as well.
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BMW clearly says same power about 4:20.
They say a lot of things don’t they?
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I'm really hoping the comp model also comes in a 6MT. I really do not want the ZF tranny in my next M car.
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      06-13-2022, 12:35 AM   #35
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I'm really hoping the comp model also comes in a 6MT. I really do not want the ZF tranny in my next M car.
Per the review at BMW Blog there is not comp model, yet.

Speaking of CS models and other variants, no word on the new M2 naming convention. But our own sources say that the new “Baby-M” will come to market with just the M2 badge. It’s unclear whether there will be room for an M2 Competition or the M wizards will simply bring out the big guns: the M2 CS and the fan favorite M2 CSL.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/06/12/2023-bmw-m2-review/
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I'm a little confused. When this car is released is it being released as a comp or is it base?
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      06-13-2022, 12:40 AM   #37
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I'm a little confused. When this car is released is it being released as a comp or is it base?
Million dollar question. No one knows.
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I'm a little confused. When this car is released is it being released as a comp or is it base?
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Million dollar question. No one knows.
This is total speculation, but it seems like they had a Comp model during the test drives. Anyone notice the MT car had the 50th anniversary M wrap while the other car which was AT didn't and was still in camo; why? Maybe it was the Comp model as Shmee said it was. It makes sense for the Comp to be the AT car just like the M3/4 Comps are only AT. Comp models usually come out later after the base model is released which would make sense why the car was still in camo.

Can't say for sure, but seems to me there are too many clues and hints to ignore.
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I'm getting GT-R R34 vibes from this car...
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this overhead photo shows how wide the fenders are.
and love the new dials design.
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Launch april 23 lol... so no one is getting a car here until summer 23 at absolute earliest.
Start of production in Mexico is 12/22. So you guys in the US are getting them first.
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It is plausible that the M2 is already anticipating squarer, simpler shape headlights for the entire LCI 2er Coupé range, without yet receiving them itself as the LCI is still too far out. Indeed this is likely the LCI M2 bumper that's already being used on the pre-LCI, with squarer cutouts adapted to squarer headlights (more consistent with the M2's square air intakes underneath and boxy fenders, and allowing preemptive cost-saving), but that requires for an extra piece (black or body color fake vent?) to fill in that empty corner on the pre-LCI headlights





Such LCI headlights would therefore resemble the i3's:




Same story with the taillights, which have that extra piece of housing that's been left for no apparent reason on the pre-LCI but seem like they're in fact already primed to receive a new pair of simpler, more minimalistic shape taillights at LCI, as suggested by the 2er sketches




Simpler, more basic shape LCI headlights and taillights eventually replacing the wavy pre-LCI ones would make sense on the 2er, further emulating that old-school, back to the roots, compact 3-box coupé spirit the 2er Coupé still embodies (impervious to current trends, since it's pretty much without direct competition on the market)




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