[mrdudley]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

:There's nothing in any of the M CS variants that really warrants their significant price increase over the standard car. It's nothing you can't add for much less & not have to jump through hoops to hopefully try to obtain.

Unfortunately, stock performance has gotten so high in the standard models of performance cars, the difference between the base & hi-po variants is so minimal, yet manufacturers are drastically increasing price on the higher models.
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This is true with almost any industry though. Wine, cosmetics, electronics, basically pick anything.

Performance/Quality does not scale linearly with Price. Price always increases at a faster rate.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

I guess for all the owners that race at the Nurburgring, it'll be special then. I never understood why owners brag about track times, they didn't run them. :

There's nothing in any of the M CS variants that really warrants their significant price increase over the standard car. It's nothing you can't add for much less & not have to jump through hoops to hopefully try to obtain.

Unfortunately, stock performance has gotten so high in the standard models of performance cars, the difference between the base & hi-po variants is so minimal, yet manufacturers are drastically increasing price on the higher models.

Simple example is the current Corvette. A fully-optioned Z06 is almost $90k more than a fully-optioned Stingray, yet the performance differences between the two are nearly nothing. Same will be true of the CS.

I would honestly recommend going to a BMW driving school to see the limits of your standard M car. They are so damn high that even if you think you need a CS/L/GTS/3.0/Guggenheim edition, you don't lol.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

I would honestly recommend going to a BMW driving school to see the limits of your standard M car. They are so damn high that even if you think you need a CS/L/GTS/3.0/Guggenheim edition, you don't lol.

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[OneTwo3]

I just got an update from my dealer—they only have one person on their waiting list, so I can place a deposit and be #2. Now, my dilemma is whether to go for that or opt for a G80 M3CX instead with the options I want. Since I live in Michigan, the M3CX would be nice for winter driving. On the other hand, I could go with the CS and just use my reliable Camry on the really snowy days. Either way, both options will cost around $95,000....I hope.

Anyone have insight on what the cost of the CS will be?

[BradMX5]

Originally Posted by OneTwo3

I just got an update from my dealer—they only have one person on their waiting list, so I can place a deposit and be #2. Now, my dilemma is whether to go for that or opt for a G80 M3CX instead with the options I want. Since I live in Michigan, the M3CX would be nice for winter driving. On the other hand, I could go with the CS and just use my reliable Camry on the really snowy days. Either way, both options will cost around $95,000....I hope.

Anyone have insight on what the cost of the CS will be?

I’d say $100k+

M2 about $20k cheaper than M4
M4 CS around $125k

[DSTR]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

I would honestly recommend going to a BMW driving school to see the limits of your standard M car. They are so damn high that even if you think you need a CS/L/GTS/3.0/Guggenheim edition, you don't lol.

Utter truth^^^. All the mods people do to a car that in a decent driver's hands sets amazing times during tests for magazines/media. Most people are not at all able to handle the cars in base form.

I stated in a different but similar thread about the CS/CSL version of the M2 to buy it used. They are still sitting around M4 and M3 version or big discounts on slightly used models.

[mrdudley]

Originally Posted by DSTR

Utter truth^^^. All the mods people do to a car that in a decent driver's hands sets amazing times during tests for magazines/media. Most people are not at all able to handle the cars in base form.

I stated in a different but similar thread about the CS/CSL version of the M2 to buy it used. They are still sitting around M4 and M3 version or big discounts on slightly used models.

A used M2 CS costs as much as it did new 4 years ago, and many going for more than the retail price 4 years ago.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by mrdudley

A used M2 CS costs as much as it did new 4 years ago, and many going for more than the retail price 4 years ago.

Listed for and selling for are two different things. For example, looks like the '20 CS started at $85k but optioned out was near $100k, plus most probably had a decent ADM. In a quick search, I found 10, low-mileage examples currently listed between $72-$85k. Depended on their options the current listing price could be quite a bit less than their original cost.

There will always be cars available, people just have to be patience & get rid of the "I need it now" "or "I'm the first to have one" mentality. I wanted an Inferno Orange Metallic Carbon Edition Z06 as soon as I saw it announced in 2010. Didn't want to & wasn't really in the position to pay the $100k price tag at the time ($100,095 to be exact), but kept it on my wish list & looked for one periodically. Only 85 were made total, one year only car, individual numbered VIN, etc.

Fast forward to 2020, and I came across not only an IOM Carbon Edition Z06, but one that had been sent to Callaway Cars who is a licensed performance partner of GM, and Callaway Corvettes, Camaros, Escalades, etc. are sold through select GM dealerships, carry fully warranty. Contacted Callaway and they verified the car was authentic, that only 3 Carbons had been made with their pkg. Original MSRP was $125,350 & I picked it up for $58k. I now regularly receive 6-figure offers to purchase the vehicle.

Long story long, patience generally works out. But if you have to be first on your block to have something, by all means throw down a big deposit, be "#1" on the list, pay an ADM.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

I would honestly recommend going to a BMW driving school to see the limits of your standard M car. They are so damn high that even if you think you need a CS/L/GTS/3.0/Guggenheim edition, you don't lol.

Actually nobody “needs” a CS.

They want one.

[Colinv6]

I don’t know about in the US, but over here in the UK, the M3CS was fairly available right from the go, and currently M4CS are sitting around. Nobody’s buying M4’s at £130k..

You can get 100 (yes 100) Mile M4CSL’s for under £90k, which was also £130k new.

Im number one on my dealers M2CS list, but it would be no issue getting one I dont think. They also have an unsold Riviera blue M4CS due in for stock at the end of this month.

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by fzr100098

The $68k car is perfectly fine

this times 100 but also understand that people love to spend money to feel special. whatever floats your boat but people expected the CS to have a different personality than a base G87 is a headscratcher

Originally Posted by OneTwo3

Now, my dilemma is whether to go for that or opt for a G80 M3CX instead with the options I want. Since I live in Michigan, the M3CX would be nice for winter driving. On the other hand, I could go with the CS and just use my reliable Camry on the really snowy days. Either way, both options will cost around $95,000....I hope.

life is too short to spend 6-7 months a year schlepping around in a mommy mobile or a beater winter car. get whatever you will drive the most.

[JMcLellan]

Originally Posted by mrdudley

A used M2 CS costs as much as it did new 4 years ago, and many going for more than the retail price 4 years ago.

How about this one:

https://www.stpaul.porschedealer.com...j3c00l7h21702/

[mrdudley]

Originally Posted by JMcLellan

How about this one:

https://www.stpaul.porschedealer.com/inventory/used-2020-bmw-m2-cs-rwd-2dr-car-wbs1j3c00l7h21702/

Not bad at all. And some solid upgrades.

Admittedly, I didn’t look country wide.

[Kid Eh]

The dealership I deal with told me they’ve never heard of this and so he can’t add me to a list. Not sure if I should try another dealership.

[minn19]

It’ll probably be hard to get an allocation to custom order one unless you pony up some ADM $$$. After the rush when they first come you’ll be able to find them on lots. Might have to travel and be flexible on color/options. Probably the best car deal I ever got was on my M4CS, was around 20% off. I don’t forsee that for the next M2CS, but they’ll definitely be around.