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      12-11-2023, 02:57 PM   #23
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--M Race Track Package in Germany

Over in Europe, the spicy compact car will be optionally available with an M Race Track Package. It’s essentially the same as the Carbon Package, encompassing the front bucket seats and carbon fiber interior trim. You also get the carbon roof, which by the way, shaves off approximately 13 pounds (6 kilograms). To sweeten the pot, BMW will also loosen up the top speed limiter so that the M2 can hit the same 177 mph (285 km/h) as its American counterpart. Optionally, track-only tires will be available.

By ordering the option package 7ME, the increase of Vmax will be automatically activated when surpassing the 2,000 km run-in distance and having completed the run-in inspection--
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--M Race Track Package in Germany

Over in Europe, the spicy compact car will be optionally available with an M Race Track Package. It’s essentially the same as the Carbon Package, encompassing the front bucket seats and carbon fiber interior trim. You also get the carbon roof, which by the way, shaves off approximately 13 pounds (6 kilograms). To sweeten the pot, BMW will also loosen up the top speed limiter so that the M2 can hit the same 177 mph (285 km/h) as its American counterpart. Optionally, track-only tires will be available.

By ordering the option package 7ME, the increase of Vmax will be automatically activated when surpassing the 2,000 km run-in distance and having completed the run-in inspection--
The Canadian info basically says the same thing for the M Driver’s Package:

“Top speed is increased to 285km/h. Increased top speed is not available until the running-in inspection has been completed and the car has run for 2,000 km. In addition to raising the top speed, the package also includes a unique 1-day high-performance driving class at a BMW Performance Centre in either Thermal, California, Spartanburg, or South Carolina. The course has been tailored to driving M vehicles through various high-speed exercises, letting you experience the limits of the vehicle in a controlled environment.”
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Stating its questionable is being kind...I call flat out Bull $hit. The video is done "after hours" at BMW, and not an authorized BMW video. There are "special" break in fluids. Oh, best is the beginning that its sponsored by some cf co.pany that makes phone cases? Seriousy? I really didn't need to watch any further and lose any more time out of my life.
More lies by the idiots of car life on Youshitetube lol. Fools being fooled by those seeking clicks n money!
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      12-11-2023, 04:12 PM   #26
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I would like to caveat this by saying that I see and recognize all of the evidence pointing to this being a myth. Before my break-in service I always told other people that this was a myth.

Then, after my break in service, there is nothing anyone can say that will convince me this is a myth.

Before break-in, I pushed my car pretty hard a couple times. I thought it felt a little underwhelming. After break-in, it is a totally different car. It wants to break traction even in the most ideal situations. It is scary how much of a difference it makes. It is completely awake and it feels like ive gone from 400 to 500 hp.
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      12-11-2023, 04:23 PM   #27
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For those that believe it is German overengineering need to look no further than the Corvette C8 which increases RPM limit and top speed with miles during its breaking. BMW could have done it that way but chose to not. Anyway.
The C8 Corvette does not increase RPM limit nor top speed after the prescribed 500 mi engine break-in or 1,500 mi transmission break-in. The visual display on the tachometer makes it appear as if the redline is lower, but it really isn't.
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      12-11-2023, 04:48 PM   #28
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For me, the car car felt tighter from the moment I drove it off the lot. Maybe it’s me getting used to the or the car breaking in but for, she drives better now post break in service with 1600 miles on it.
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      12-12-2023, 09:23 PM   #29
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I just had my 1200 mile run-in service and I agree with Rx-7ames who said:

"Before break-in, I pushed my car pretty hard a couple times. I thought it felt a little underwhelming. After break-in, it is a totally different car. It wants to break traction even in the most ideal situations. It is scary how much of a difference it makes. It is completely awake and it feels like ive gone from 400 to 500 hp."

For those of you who have the auto transmission and who have not yet had their 1200 mile service, what is your redline? I am curious to see if it changes after the run-in service. Mine now starts at 7000 rpm.
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      12-12-2023, 09:46 PM   #30
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I just had my 1200 mile run-in service and I agree with Rx-7ames who said:

"Before break-in, I pushed my car pretty hard a couple times. I thought it felt a little underwhelming. After break-in, it is a totally different car. It wants to break traction even in the most ideal situations. It is scary how much of a difference it makes. It is completely awake and it feels like ive gone from 400 to 500 hp."

For those of you who have the auto transmission and who have not yet had their 1200 mile service, what is your redline? I am curious to see if it changes after the run-in service. Mine now starts at 7000 rpm.

I have the 8AT...absolutely no difference after the breakin service.
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I would like to caveat this by saying that I see and recognize all of the evidence pointing to this being a myth. Before my break-in service I always told other people that this was a myth.

Then, after my break in service, there is nothing anyone can say that will convince me this is a myth.

Before break-in, I pushed my car pretty hard a couple times. I thought it felt a little underwhelming. After break-in, it is a totally different car. It wants to break traction even in the most ideal situations. It is scary how much of a difference it makes. It is completely awake and it feels like ive gone from 400 to 500 hp.
could just be the engine, you know, breaking in? i am at 700 mi and can already feel a difference. car didnt drive bad off the lot, but its absolutely getting stronger and better feeling as i go
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I always wondered about M car break in procedure. In my Blackwing, the rpm limit is set to 4K. As soon as it passes 500 miles, the computer pushes to 4K to 6.5k. Eazy peazy and it is actually pretty cool thing to see. Why other high end manufacturers don’t do that is up puzzling.
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I always wondered about M car break in procedure. In my Blackwing, the rpm limit is set to 4K. As soon as it passes 500 miles, the computer pushes to 4K to 6.5k. Eazy peazy and it is actually pretty cool thing to see. Why other high end manufacturers don’t do that is up puzzling.
It's not really limited to 4k, it just visually makes you think it is. You can still push past it before 500 mi.
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Sir, the redline on your car is not 7000, it’s 7,200.
And has been since mile 0. And will be until EOL.
Monsieur M2siast,

I stand corrected for my typo. Sarcasm will get you everywhere, oui?
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could just be the engine, you know, breaking in? i am at 700 mi and can already feel a difference. car didnt drive bad off the lot, but its absolutely getting stronger and better feeling as i go
Took a bit of time to get to 1200 miles in my M2. But definitely agree the engine got stronger as the miles passed.

The 2023 JCW I bought new in March of this year I bought in Loveland CO. Drove the car home and covered 873 miles. Of course I was mindful the car/engine was new and adhered to the break in guidelines.

Don't recall how many miles I covered the 1st day but as the 2nd day went by and the miles accumulated and passed the 500 miles mark and beyond I couldn't help noticing the engine was running stronger.

First time in my new car ownership experience a new car break in occurred over such a short span of time that I could experience the change in the engine.
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Hello Everyone,

My 2000km (1200miles) break-in service is due in 1000kms. I was wondering if any of you really could feel the difference in performance between pre and past service, or it is just a BMW marketing BS?
If you could describe the feeling with numbers e.g. +10-20% power, it would be most appreciated
I felt a difference but because after the Running in Service (RiS) I pushed the car/engine harder, drove it with more spirit. I used more throttle and allowed the engine to rev higher.

As a result there is a big rush of power as the engine RPMs climb and under pretty much full throttle. One could believe this was not there before and was some how made available by some sort of software hocus pocus.

The post break in service behavior has been my experience over the years with a number of cars. Most notably the high(er) performance cars.

As an aside with one car (2023 JCW) I got to experience the car/engine as I drove it 873 miles starting from show room miles. The engine was a bit subdued -- and I was mindful the engine was new -- the 1st day. But the 2nd day and as the miles accumulated I couldn't help but notice the engine was stronger.

As for the M2, the documentation I got from my service department doesn't indicate there's any change made to the car's performance capabilities. No raising the rev limiter, or the top speed limit.

The only programming involved is to deactivate the running in service notification.

This is from the printout I got: "Deactivate the 1200 MI. RiS [Running in Service] via diagnostic path."

The RiS is deactivated because it is no longer needed once the RiS has been done. This deactivation means the driver is no longer given the RiS due notice every time he gets behind the wheel.

Taking a step back I doubt a car maker would impose temporary limits on an engine due to the risk of incurring additional (and unwanted) liability. God forbid a driver found himself in need of higher RPMs for more acceleration and was unable to get these due to factory imposed limits on RPMs and an accident happened.

If the factory did impose some limit I think it would have to clearly document this so an owner could take this limit into account in his use of the car.

Sure the factory states RPM and speed limits that should be adhered to during break in but these are soft limits. The owner is free to exceed these if he wants. To avoid an accident would be a very important reason.
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FWIW, I lean towards the idea that perf unlock on ris is a myth.

Personally, I could not sense a difference before and after. The tires peeled out pretty much the same way. There was no difference in redline.

The clutch has settled in a bit over time, making it easier to USE that power, but I can't sense any difference in the engine.
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FWIW, I lean towards the idea that perf unlock on ris is a myth.

Personally, I could not sense a difference before and after. The tires peeled out pretty much the same way. There was no difference in redline.

The clutch has settled in a bit over time, making it easier to USE that power, but I can't sense any difference in the engine.
I too have noticed the clutch or something has settled, broken in, or whatever, and clutch operation/shifting is quite nice and free of any negative drama. There is drama to be sure but only the good kind...
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I would like to caveat this by saying that I see and recognize all of the evidence pointing to this being a myth. Before my break-in service I always told other people that this was a myth.

Then, after my break in service, there is nothing anyone can say that will convince me this is a myth.

Before break-in, I pushed my car pretty hard a couple times. I thought it felt a little underwhelming. After break-in, it is a totally different car. It wants to break traction even in the most ideal situations. It is scary how much of a difference it makes. It is completely awake and it feels like ive gone from 400 to 500 hp.
That sounds awesome! Is your M2 an automatic or a manual?

I'm getting my break in service tomorrow and I'm very excited for it to be completed.
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That sounds awesome! Is your M2 an automatic or a manual?

I'm getting my break in service tomorrow and I'm very excited for it to be completed.
It is a manual. Let's us know what you think. Breaking service myth or not?
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Just look at the dyno runs some vendors did and posted the charts, was it IND? One of these…
Exactly. This is so easy to either prove or disprove and simply putting the car on the dyno before and after the service will prove the point. There is no magic horsepower to be unlocked.
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I JUST had my break in service done and my technician told me the cars run at 80% until break in service. They do a software update to give you full power. His words.
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Considering you followed the break-in recommendation as a “rule”, and did not explore RPMs after 6,000 (you didn’t have to, but many misinterpret the recommendation with a “absolutely do not cross” rule), the technician just freed you from running precisely at 83.33% (6,000 versus 7,200 RPM) capacity. Enjoy the 100% now, and rest assured nothing changed in your engine mapping.

Yup, would have to have the ecu unlocked and that didn't happen for the breakin service.
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As someone who had the break in service on my g87 I can confirm it’s a total myth. No difference in power or performance in any form.
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