[NathObeaN]

Originally Posted by Hit_Apex

What does that even mean? This is a spec classed race car, Jackie built a time attack competitor. Do you know anything about the M Motorsport program?

Sir, please don’t try to patronise me. I’m sure this has some interesting components under the skin, but you don’t win races by slapping on a carbon fibre spoiler and a fancy livery. This is a lazy marketing stunt, not a serious demonstration of a built racing car. Their program has outputted far better examples than this in the past.

[NathObeaN]

Originally Posted by kudos

I like how they aren't even using the aero parts like the stupid spoiler wing and front canards that they made for the M2.

Because those aero parts are just for show and completely non-functional. Having said that, I’m surprised this car has none of its own bespoke aero (from what we can see so far).

[VR1]

Originally Posted by NathObeaN

When BMW customers invest more effort and resources to build a race car than BMW themselves, and do it a solid year beforehand, you know you have a problem.

Credit: Jackie Ding - PhD Racing

I don't think you understand the purpose of this car.

[NathObeaN]

Originally Posted by VR1

I don't think you understand the purpose of this car.

Educate me then.

[kudos]

Originally Posted by NathObeaN

Because those aero parts are just for show and completely non-functional. Having said that, I’m surprised this car has none of its own bespoke aero (from what we can see so far).

Seems counter to the ///M brand so many people spout off about, doesn't it? One could argue that some are "true M" cars but when I see they aren't even using their own parts on their "race car" I can't help but laugh at those same people.

[PDXLBB]

lol if yall look closely it has a half cage in it, by the shape of the seat it looks to be a bucket seat and a vent on the driver side rear window… there is probably more internally than on the outside. Most people really love to criticize what they don’t even fully know or see.. and I would add that there is a high chance the the BMW M division did the testing and possibly saw the data that they collected to conclude that the G87 didn’t need to be modified to look like a racecar because of how it possibly performed.

[ednir98]

Originally Posted by NathObeaN

Educate me then.

It is intended to be used as a turn-key racecar with a “clean slate” for people to build on further. It’s track ready with room for modifications. Not everyone wants to spend months shedding weight and doing what Jackie Ding did.

[helmet91]

It probably doesn’t have a ton of aero on it because of regulations for whatever class they’re putting it in for NLS/VLN/RCN/N24.

It’s not a GT3 or GT4 car after all.

[Tag]

Looks like BMW inadvertently debuted the M2 CS' front splitter.

[NathObeaN]

Originally Posted by ednir98

It is intended to be used as a turn-key racecar with a “clean slate” for people to build on further. It’s track ready with room for modifications. Not everyone wants to spend months shedding weight and doing what Jackie Ding did.

Yup. I know that. That’s my point. Why then, attach a useless carbon fibre spoiler to the car? Why not include an adjustable wing… like… I dunno, the M235i racing, M240i racing, M2 CS racing etc. Nope. The headline to this release is the camo… which serves literally no one (other than marketing).

I’m not suggesting they release a Jackie Ding equivalent, because he’s purposely built that for a specific purpose/class. My point is that Jackie and his team clearly invested a lot of time and energy into aero development for example. I don’t see that here. BMW clearly haven’t done any additional aero development over OEM (when they did for the previous 3 generations of 2-series race cars).

Now, if you’re argument is “yeah but they want to keep the price down and let customers do it themselves”… then what’s the point? Why not just buy a stock M2 and do it yourself?

[LAGWAGN]

Originally Posted by Tag

Looks like BMW inadvertently debuted the M2 CS' front splitter.

Had the same thought. I imagine the CS will get that rear wing too.

I like the front splitter!

[BroDoze]

Originally Posted by Tag

Looks like BMW inadvertently debuted the M2 CS' front splitter.

Yep

Thing's gonna fly off the shelves.

I also see how they have just black plastic on some of the places that'll get road rash. They're trying to out-WRX the WRX.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by LAGWAGN

Had the same thought. I imagine the CS will get that rear wing too.

I like the front splitter!

It's actually getting a duckbill trunk lid which IMO really compliments the G87.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by BroDoze

Yep

Thing's gonna fly off the shelves.

I also see how they have just black plastic on some of the places that'll get road rash. They're trying to out-WRX the WRX.

Honestly, I prefer ABS over CF simply because they are far more affordable to replace when damaged.

[NathObeaN]

Originally Posted by Tag

Honestly, I would prefer it be ABS than CF simply because they are far more affordable to replace when damaged.

I agree in principle but the reality hurts… I remember looking for an M2 CS Racing ABS splitter for my F87 and the cost was not far from the carbon fibre alternatives. Shame really.

[BroDoze]

Originally Posted by Tag

Honestly, I prefer ABS over CF simply because they are far more affordable to replace when damaged.

Same - it's why I have the $169 piano black lip on mine. PPF'd of course

[///M TOWN]

M2 Art Car ⁉️

[TargaM2]

Not sure what the complaints are about. They’re only teaser pics but if you look closely you can see its the ‘real deal’. You can see by the a-pillar it has the fully stripped interior, a full cage, flocked dash, race seat, aero catches on boot & bonnet so liklely composite panels, race spec wheels, slicks. Then theres all the suspension & drivetrain stuff you cant see.
The blurb states its a base for GT3 & GT4 spec classes. Cant wait to see a GT3 spec car.

[NathObeaN]

Originally Posted by TargaM2

Not sure what the complaints are about. They’re only teaser pics but if you look closely you can see by the a-pillar it has a fully stripped interior, a full cage, aero catches on boot & bonnet so liklely composite panels, race spec wheels, slicks. Then theres all the suspension & drivetrain stuff you cant see. The blurb states its a base for GT3 & GT4 spec classes. Cant wait to see a GT3 spec car.

It’s a fair point. Maybe once we learn more it will be more appealing. I’ll reserve some judgement. First impressions aren’t winning me over though. Maybe I’ll be given some humble pie and BMW will launch it alongside a selection of optional aero parts, body panels etc. I doubt it… but one can hope

[TargaM2]

I dont think people on here understand how motorsport works. Aero parts etc are entirely dependant upon what class you are competing in as are many other components. You cant just slap any huge swan neck on & go compete wherever you like.
That jackie ding car being referenced is apparently a time attack car & that class has basically no limit to what you can do as far as aero goes. Had this car been available i am sure he would have started with this rather than just a road car.
GT3 & GT4 are much more serious forms of racing with international sanctioned classes that are highly regulated. Once you see a GT3 car built to spec it will have all the aero etc that is allowed.
This is the base car from which customer race spec cars will be further developed according to whatever class/series they are to compete in. Thankfully many manufacturers like BMW build cars like this as it provides a top quality entry point for serious competitors rather than just hacking up road cars.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by TargaM2

I dont think people on here understand how motorsport works. Aero parts etc are entirely dependant upon what class you are competing in as are many other components. You cant just slap any huge swan neck on & go compete wherever you like.
That jackie ding car being referenced is apparently a time attack car & that class has basically no limit to what you can do as far as aero goes. Had this car been available i am sure he would have started with this rather than just a road car.
GT3 & GT4 are much more serious forms of racing with international sanctioned classes that are highly regulated. Once you see a GT3 car built to spec it will have all the aero etc that is allowed.
This is the base car from which customer race spec cars will be further developed according to whatever class/series they are to compete in. Thankfully many manufacturers like BMW build cars like this as it provides a top quality entry point for serious competitors rather than just hacking up road cars.

The majority are clueless…

[cfm56d7b]

On its own merits, the car looks great. Decided to research more. From BMWUSA - see below.

- Sold out; excellent indicator of demand
- Must have SCCA racing license; not for mere mortals

FAQS
COMMON QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BMW M2 CS RACING
Is the BMW M2 CS Racing currently available?


At this time, both the BMW M2 Racing Cup and M2 CS Racing Clubsport models are sold out.
How much does the BMW M2 CS Racing cost?


How can I purchase the BMW M2 CS Racing?


The BMW M2 CS Racing models and all associated motorsport parts are distributed exclusively by authorized BMW M Motorsport Centers. You must have a valid SCCA racing license to purchase a BMW M2 CS Racing.