[toastedoats]

Originally Posted by Stick435

Are you referring to the 240 or 230?

240

[logjamexcalibur]

Originally Posted by Stick435

I'd like to piggy back off this thread, but have a question about the staggered tires for the 230 and if they are worth it on that car. I'm not a fan of any of the 2025 wheels, so was thinking of just getting the 780's/848M's and then buying stock size 792M's separately unless the staggered is better on the 230.

depends on how you drive I suppose. I’ve only driven my 230 which has the staggered setup, and I like to corner… enthusiastically, so more width for my driven tires is worth it for me. As is the m differential, but YMMV. Maybe if you want more slide-ability, the narrower square setup would be better?

[VegasG42]

Originally Posted by eli371

i haven't seen anyone mention the top speed limiter and sprint mode which would be included - at least here you go from 130mph to 155mph

You just have to select the non-run flat performance tires. That gives you the 155

130 mph is for the run flats

[spursmat]

I’ve got a 23MY M240 in the UK without the M Technology Pack. I have the 893M wheels with P4S tyres and the rears are wider. (255 IIRC)

I have just ordered a 25MY M240 and the packs are obviously different this time round. I’ve specced the same wheels as an option but will they still come with the P4S tyres?

The M Technology Pack on the UK configurator has a requirement of the 893M wheels and it’s only £315 so I assume it’s just the cooling and brakes upgrade.

I’m sure I’ve read that UK/European cars with the additional oil cooler actually have a factory fitted undertray, I.e. it’s not exposed?

The TLDR is having read this thread there seems to be an argument that the upgrade is worth it even if you don’t want to track the car.

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by spursmat

I’ve got a 23MY M240 in the UK without the M Technology Pack. I have the 893M wheels with P4S tyres and the rears are wider. (255 IIRC)

I have just ordered a 25MY M240 and the packs are obviously different this time round. I’ve specced the same wheels as an option but will they still come with the P4S tyres?

The M Technology Pack on the UK configurator has a requirement of the 893M wheels and it’s only £315 so I assume it’s just the cooling and brakes upgrade.

I’m sure I’ve read that UK/European cars with the additional oil cooler actually have a factory fitted undertray, I.e. it’s not exposed?

The TLDR is having read this thread there seems to be an argument that the upgrade is worth it even if you don’t want to track the car.

The configurator shows the PS4s come with the 893 wheels.

In the UK, you can have the wheels (an additional ~£900] without the pack but not the pack without the wheels. Note, if you select the wheels, the pack is £315 more (plus taxes) but otherwise it’s about £1500 because you have to have the wheels as well.
We also don’t have an under mounted cooler. Ours is behind the front vents.

[spursmat]

Originally Posted by Pentland

The configurator shows the PS4s come with the 893 wheels.

In the UK, you can have the wheels (an additional ~£900] without the pack but not the pack without the wheels. Note, if you select the wheels, the pack is £315 more (plus taxes) but otherwise it’s about £1500 because you have to have the wheels as well.
We also don’t have an under mounted cooler. Ours is behind the front vents.

Ah, nice to know thanks. The horror stories of that undermounted cooler have put me off in the past!

I can’t say I dislike the brakes on my current car but given the weight I wouldn’t complain if they were a bit more powerful. I know it’s subjective but aside from the cooler issue (which we don’t have) are they any negatives to the “upgrade”?

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by spursmat

Ah, nice to know thanks. The horror stories of that undermounted cooler have put me off in the past!

I can’t say I dislike the brakes on my current car but given the weight I wouldn’t complain if they were a bit more powerful. I know it’s subjective but aside from the cooler issue (which we don’t have) are they any negatives to the “upgrade”?

Bigger brakes aren’t “more powerful” and won’t help with stopping wrt to the car’s weight! Tyres will.
Only negative is that any upgraded or larger components will be more expensive to replace when they wear.

[PosterNutbag]

Originally Posted by spursmat

I’ve got a 23MY M240 in the UK without the M Technology Pack. I have the 893M wheels with P4S tyres and the rears are wider. (255 IIRC)

I have just ordered a 25MY M240 and the packs are obviously different this time round. I’ve specced the same wheels as an option but will they still come with the P4S tyres?

The M Technology Pack on the UK configurator has a requirement of the 893M wheels and it’s only £315 so I assume it’s just the cooling and brakes upgrade.

I’m sure I’ve read that UK/European cars with the additional oil cooler actually have a factory fitted undertray, I.e. it’s not exposed?

The TLDR is having read this thread there seems to be an argument that the upgrade is worth it even if you don’t want to track the car.

Yeah. This has been quite the discussion. I’m opting to not get the upgrade. Tracking the car would be rare and I’m close to some really nice driving roads that will give me enough satisfaction without going crazy on track. With standard upgrades and the B58 the car is a beast. Now I’ve got some extra money for M Performance aero parts. I really like the carbon fiber rear wing.

[Dinosoar]

Nah, don't get it...no track work, no need for the ZTK package. I think you can resolve the 225 tires up front with another solution. I wholly agree 225s are just not enough tire. I have 255s (square) on my 230 and it just turns in so well, brakes so much better...just love it!

If you like the subjective aspect of the bigger brakes, and don't plan to replace the tires on your own, then it'd be worth it, IMO.

[G42 Pilot]

Went to a BMW autocross event by BMW a few weeks ago. Drove my M240xi with ZTK PS4s tires 2023. They had a 2024 240xi non ZTK Pirelli P7 Run Flat tires to test drive among several other cars/SAV's.
You play follow the leader, in sport mode, 4 total cars including an instructor this year do to morons either stealing or rolling a car.

To the point. After setting off the first thing I noticed was the tires were harsh and hard, following the instructor into the first 90 degree corner I noticed I really had to apply much more brake pressure that I'm used to to get the car to slow to a speed I'm comfortable entering in. The turn in was plagued with understeer and didn't exude confidence. I was like, WHAT THE HELL. I would never put this car on its sidewalls with those tires.
The ZTK is a night and day difference with this car.
If you can drive both versions, one after the other, do so and THEN make up your mind.
Tire type and front tire size makes a world of difference.

After the autocross session I spoke with one of the driving school instructors and he confirmed my findings. He told me that on the 5 series they use this year in the autocross, the remove the tires they come with (he said they are crap) and put on PS4s.
Choose wisely.