[Connors5453]

I’ve had an f87 OG for 4.5 years, new car feels more like g80/82 but still playful. Very sturdy and composed but also has all the power you could ever want. Feels amazing but not like you put an s58 in an f87.

[baege]

Originally Posted by nd.point

I'll be putting together a thorough review. I want to pass break in first.
But happy to respond to your question; I've had a OG and CS before the G87. For context I have also owned a Model S Plaid, 991.2 GTS, C63 18 Coupe, F80 M3 and countless others.

Bouncy?; In full sport suspension, yes. But I would say it's "busy" only on poor roads/side roads. On the highway it's square and compliant.

Twitchy?:Hell yes, but in a good way. Speaking specifically to the traction on the rear, you really can dial this thing in. They have detuned 1&2nd and looks like <2500RPM so you can actually put traction down without the F87's annoying wheel hop. No wheel hop here. The car is only "twitchy" when driving in full sport plus/m modes on everything, which I would actually expect and as a buyer is something I want. I don't want a safe toy, I want something that will bite my head off when I ask it too. In efficiency, you might as well be driving a 230i. Very two faced.

In the short time I have had it, it splits the f87 and G82.
It's a more refined F87.

The good;
-The Looks, I love it. Gives me WRC wide body vibes. No I'm not blind. Lowering+wheel fitment and a rear wing will make this thing look stupidly good. My Black one should be ready for some photos soon after my tech gets done with it.
-The interior has some scratchy plastic, but this is a massive upgrade over f bodies. It's not even close.
-The power, the g87 makes my OG look stupid, ... like the s58 is making 500hp+ at the crank, wild stuff out of an i-6. After wheels, hood, rear seat delete and new smaller battery I can only imagine what this thing will do beyond pissing off some f87 owners. Even my CS didn't get me this excited. You really couldn't take that thing any further without turning it into a full race car. While the CS is better looking, it isn't the better car.
-The traction. The grip is silly, turn in is neutral and balanced. But you change your setting to "4 or <" and the fun begins. 5+ and you'll struggle to break the rear loose.
-Paint work, while others may not mention it this is some of the better factory paint I have seen on any of my BMW's; german, American, south afrian
-The brakes, while they day not have the best feel they pull this fat monster to a halt only like my gts did. So much confidence here.
-Lights, the headlights are amazing for not being laser. VERY impressed with the nighttime visibility.
-Active sound looks to be turned off. Cannot confirm. But when I tried to remove it using Bimmercode it was marked as "disabled" I could enable it, but chose not to. If it has been removed/disabled its a win for me.


The Bad;
The transmission; I have the 6speed. I hate the rubber feel, long throws and clutch feel. First mods I do is changing the rear shifter bushing ( Gets rid of most of that sloppy feel when shifting between gears.), and remove a small spacer in the fluid line that is shared with the steering rack ( my tech does this mod) not super familiar. I can find out more. But it reduces the "space/tolerence" for the clutch to engage. If you have driven a manual BMW you know the "dead" area at the top of the clutch I am talking about.

-The squeaky brakes; Low speed braking has always been a problem with the pads BMW uses. Lots of dust and annoying sounds. I'll likely replace soon.

-The UI for M 1/2 set up. You cannot save a preferred display for your M button set up. You can manually adjust it ( no memory function in iD8) They offer 3 cluster configurations, 1-normal, 2 sport, 3 race. They all look slightly different, but you cannot save "sport" to either setting, annoying.


Those are my initial thoughts, more to come in an organized fashion. Happy to field any specific questions.

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this is awesome.

can you comment on the low end torque specifically with this particular tune of the S58?
how does it compare to the S55 below 3000 rpm?

[lbahoshy]

Originally Posted by nd.point

I'll be putting together a thorough review. I want to pass break in first.
But happy to respond to your question; I've had a OG and CS before the G87. For context I have also owned a Model S Plaid, 991.2 GTS, C63 18 Coupe, F80 M3 and countless others.

Bouncy?; In full sport suspension, yes. But I would say it's "busy" only on poor roads/side roads. On the highway it's square and compliant.

Twitchy?:Hell yes, but in a good way. Speaking specifically to the traction on the rear, you really can dial this thing in. They have detuned 1&2nd and looks like <2500RPM so you can actually put traction down without the F87's annoying wheel hop. No wheel hop here. The car is only "twitchy" when driving in full sport plus/m modes on everything, which I would actually expect and as a buyer is something I want. I don't want a safe toy, I want something that will bite my head off when I ask it too. In efficiency, you might as well be driving a 230i. Very two faced.

In the short time I have had it, it splits the f87 and G82.
It's a more refined F87.

The good;
-The Looks, I love it. Gives me WRC wide body vibes. No I'm not blind. Lowering+wheel fitment and a rear wing will make this thing look stupidly good. My Black one should be ready for some photos soon after my tech gets done with it.
-The interior has some scratchy plastic, but this is a massive upgrade over f bodies. It's not even close.
-The power, the g87 makes my OG look stupid, ... like the s58 is making 500hp+ at the crank, wild stuff out of an i-6. After wheels, hood, rear seat delete and new smaller battery I can only imagine what this thing will do beyond pissing off some f87 owners. Even my CS didn't get me this excited. You really couldn't take that thing any further without turning it into a full race car. While the CS is better looking, it isn't the better car.
-The traction. The grip is silly, turn in is neutral and balanced. But you change your setting to "4 or <" and the fun begins. 5+ and you'll struggle to break the rear loose.
-Paint work, while others may not mention it this is some of the better factory paint I have seen on any of my BMW's; german, American, south afrian
-The brakes, while they day not have the best feel they pull this fat monster to a halt only like my gts did. So much confidence here.
-Lights, the headlights are amazing for not being laser. VERY impressed with the nighttime visibility.
-Active sound looks to be turned off. Cannot confirm. But when I tried to remove it using Bimmercode it was marked as "disabled" I could enable it, but chose not to. If it has been removed/disabled its a win for me.


The Bad;
The transmission; I have the 6speed. I hate the rubber feel, long throws and clutch feel. First mods I do is changing the rear shifter bushing ( Gets rid of most of that sloppy feel when shifting between gears.), and remove a small spacer in the fluid line that is shared with the steering rack ( my tech does this mod) not super familiar. I can find out more. But it reduces the "space/tolerence" for the clutch to engage. If you have driven a manual BMW you know the "dead" area at the top of the clutch I am talking about.

-The squeaky brakes; Low speed braking has always been a problem with the pads BMW uses. Lots of dust and annoying sounds. I'll likely replace soon.

-The UI for M 1/2 set up. You cannot save a preferred display for your M button set up. You can manually adjust it ( no memory function in iD8) They offer 3 cluster configurations, 1-normal, 2 sport, 3 race. They all look slightly different, but you cannot save "sport" to either setting, annoying.


Those are my initial thoughts, more to come in an organized fashion. Happy to field any specific questions.

-

Great write up ! Thank you ! Picking up mine this Saturday and cannot wait !

[DSTR]

"While the CS is better looking, it isn't the better car" - End thread lol.

The comparison's clogging this site will end very very soon. Those words are the bottom line. And this is to be expected. The weight issue is all anyone stands on overall. Look are always subjective but performance less so. This car has the hardware and systems to ensure the words above!

[baege]

bumping this thread as more people have taken delivery

seems pretty universal that the interior, ride, overall chassis feel, tech are all improved

but interested in hearing how the S58 in this particular tune feels compared to the S55, particularly in terms of low end torque?

also interested in hearing about whether it feels as fun and playful in the curves