[Humdizzle]

most reviews seem kinda 'meh'. joe achilles thinks every bmw is nice so i could care less what he thinks

throttle house, car magazine, and straight pipes all bagged on the looks. throttle house didn't really like the car much at all. more grip / less fun. would not recommend. most reviews said the f87cs was better.

only positive i'm seeing is that its interior is better than the outgoing model.

and its got cast wheels ?? wtf

[DailyDownshift]

Joe Achilles said "the front end is not as good as it is on the M3/M4" when he first drove it and now is backing that up after street driving. Wonder why that is with them sharing so many components. Could be the wheel base differences?

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by No Boost

If the car isn't in boost, it's slow. Gotta rev it out. C/D is approximating 3.6-3.8 which happens to be about a full second slower than a Comp G8x. This whole detuning process as not to step on the toes of bigger siblings is complete horseshit.

Wait a minute, "a whole second"? Are you suggesting a Comp G8x does it in 2.6-2.8 seconds?

[n55f15]

Something off about the Throttle House review. They're entitled to their opinion, but it was definitely very biased.

[M3WC]

Throttle House confirming the wheels are cast, not forged.

That is a shame.

[T_U_D]

Keep in mind people, in regards to all these reviews, that opinions are like @$$hole$, everyone has one. These various opinions are not the Holy Grail.

Originally Posted by M3WC

Throttle House confirming the wheels are cast, not forged.

That is a shame.

Old news, we had that figured out months ago. It was also confirmed prior to the press embargo expiring.

[jim1013yyf]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

most reviews seem kinda 'meh'. joe achilles thinks every bmw is nice so i could care less what he thinks

throttle house, car magazine, and straight pipes all bagged on the looks. throttle house didn't really like the car much at all. more grip / less fun. would not recommend. most reviews said the f87cs was better.

only positive i'm seeing is that its interior is better than the outgoing model.

and its got cast wheels ?? wtf

Really agree on your comments about Joe. Don’t get me wrong some of his videos are fun, but he’s totally a BMW fan boy

[eddj]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

most reviews seem kinda 'meh'. joe achilles thinks every bmw is nice so i could care less what he thinks

throttle house, car magazine, and straight pipes all bagged on the looks. throttle house didn't really like the car much at all. more grip / less fun. would not recommend. most reviews said the f87cs was better.

only positive i'm seeing is that its interior is better than the outgoing model.

and its got cast wheels ?? wtf

Completely agree with Achiles part, he is so biased and all his reviews are the same ; boring and not from an objective point of view.

[T_U_D]

Something to keep in mind, come April 8th or thereabouts the opinions of owners with HEAs in their driveways will be invaluable! Proof is in the pudding.

[ESB]

Originally Posted by ESB

I totally get it. But I mean people commonly associate the M2 and it’s shorter wheelbase as being super fun to slide around and toss it’s rear end compared to M3/M4. In the BMW Blog interviews with M directors last week the BMW employees themselves position the M2 as the “fun” car and the M4 as the performance car.

In the F87 forums a few people choose to keep the OE PSS tires over the more common PS4S upgrade - because again they say the PS4S take away some of the car’s fun.

Personally I don’t slide my car that often on the road, so its not that important to me. But I get that some people really like how easily it loses grip while remaining easy to control.

Though now at around 19:00 in the BMW Blog review, he says that BMW purposefully chose to make it less playful so it could perform better on the track (in the context of the C Pillar design). But so that just sounds totally different from what the other BMW employees were saying in last week’s interview. Confusing.

Whatever. I’m sure it’s a fun car to drive.

[FryCookOnVenus]

I'm enjoying the particular type of F87 driver that's here, cherry picking the reviews to self-soothe.

Surely you guys aren't in the Toyota Supra forum reminding people your car is superior, so why does the new M2 make you so sweaty?

The F87 is great. You're lucky to own it. Relax.

[BimmerFix]

Originally Posted by Daily Downshift

Joe Achilles said "the front end is not as good as it is on the M3/M4" when he first drove it and now is backing that up after street driving. Wonder why that is with them sharing so many components. Could be the wheel base differences?

That part really stood out for me as well, how could that really be

[mwh2009]

I hate to say it, but the reviews are really talking me out of the manual, and therefore maybe the M2.

I’d hoped that they would say the manual version was magical and worth giving up a little power. Sounds like the auto is the more fun as well.

If I’m going to get an auto, I might as well get the M3 xdrive and get more power and AWS and 4 doors.

I’m disappointed so far 😓

[No Boost]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Wait a minute, "a whole second"? Are you suggesting a Comp G8x does it in 2.6-2.8 seconds?

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

[zero21]

It's also really weird that Top Gear scored it 7/10 - that's bad for them. Again complaing about the same thing as Throttle House - design and weight. Idk...I trust MotoMan and print media a lot because of the sheer volume of stuff they drive.

Throttle House is about fun, and these two seemed hungover and irritated the whole time. It was like watching an old married couple in a bad way.

[EXE46]

Enjoying these reviews for what they are: pure entertainment. Except for BMWBLOG's video which has the added benefit of being educational.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by No Boost

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

Ok, that's with X-Drive and probably launch control

I'd doubt it would be achievable otherwise

The M4CSL is said to do it in 3.7s so I'm really surprised at the 2.8s statement

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Sounds like if you want a manual, a used M2 CS is looking like a bargain compared to a new G87 M2.

The M2CS is selling for well over $110,000. I’m not sure how that’s a bargain.

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

The M2CS is selling for well over $110,000. I’m not sure how that’s a bargain.

The last two auctions on BaT and Pcarmarket were $82,500.

They may be more in the future now that the g87 manual reviews were so bad.

[No Boost]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Ok, that's with X-Drive and probably launch control

Yes, both

[Mtr3sto]

Originally Posted by ESB

Wow throttle house is initially really not happy with the power delivery but then later note that the Auto fixes it and that the original complaint only applies to the 6MT..?

Looks like the car was low on gas. If through their whole run it was low on gas then I think it cuts power.



Exterior looks weird. Not good or horrendous.

Cast wheels? WTF. Every F generation M car had forged wheels at stock. They stealing this Cast Cheap move from porsche.

Interior is the only thing that looks way better, except for the long screen.

BMW manuals have always felt rubbery and sluggish. I don’t know how people here are surprised. If you want a good new 6 speed, either go to porsche or honda.

About weight, the previous m2 weighted in almost the same as the previous m4. Don’t understand how is a surprise that the new m2 is heavy since we know the m4 is heavy.

[10"]

Looks way better than the frankly soft F87 ever did—-despite its weird looks.

what bothers me most is the 3900lb weight, that is very disturbing.

The refinement also bothers me—I felt the F87 was too refined, so this takes that to the next level ugh.