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      06-18-2024, 03:37 PM   #23
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Former motor racing team boss Frans Verschuur reckons Bottas needs to get his priorities in order.
“He just has to stop, just like Perez,” the Dutchman told Ziggo Sport Race Café.
“What he is doing does not belong in Formula 1, and he drives like a newspaper.
“Do you know how many talents there are? He can work in the circus with [Daniel] Ricciardo, two clowns together. First drive fast, then humour.”
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Ham on a podium, not going to be surprised if he gets P1 or 2
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Good to remember Sergio Perez’s F1 career:
He made his Formula One debut in the 2011 Australian Grand Prix.
He has had a very interesting and long career and I hope he keeps his wish to end his career at Red Bull in 2026.
It's easy to root for the sure thing but rewarding when you root for the under dog and they come through.

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Good to remember Sergio Perez’s F1 career:
He made his Formula One debut in the 2011 Australian Grand Prix.
He has had a very interesting and long career and I hope he keeps his wish to end his career at Red Bull in 2026.
It's easy to root for the sure thing but rewarding when you root for the under dog and they come through.

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Checo is sure the turning point will be Spain and knows what he has to do to turn things around, I wish him luck.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/28315...-to-reset.html
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Checo is sure the turning point will be Spain and knows what he has to do to turn things around, I wish him luck.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/28315...-to-reset.html
He been saying that since last year. But he doesn't need to do anything fancy, he's just signed a 1+1 year contract. Just need to finish in front of Daniel Riccardo.
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I like Checo Perez but I would never put him in the top 5 right now.

As for predictions:
top ten in qualifying 0.75 gap to pole.
in the race, who knows but it will be worth watching if the FIA doesn't "f" it up.
Checo can not drive the RB20 like it should be with these setup issues .
Don't see Checo make it to Q3 in this car...

The source of the RB20 issues is fundamental . It's the RB20 front suspension .

Helmut Marko : We know and we learned what we can do to fix it , but it's not fixed yet .
As MAX said : This setup issue won't be fixed in a few races ...
It's a miracle that MAX can still win races with this car .
Knowing that McLaren and Mercedes are the fastest cars at the track .

But there is hope for the RB20 , because the Red Bull Team is busy trying to copy the flexible front wings from Ferrari , Mercedes and McLaren..
The flexible front wings are approved by the FIA . Strange but true (!)
So why wouldn't they do it too ...
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He been saying that since last year. But he doesn't need to do anything fancy, he's just signed a 1+1 year contract. Just need to finish in front of Daniel Riccardo.
Mister Teeth is done at the F1 grid (!)
It isn't complicated to see that . F1 is not a charity .Too bad , but it is what it is ...
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Depending on the next few races I'll give Checo a ranking then.
IMHO. I wouldn't be surprised my friend !
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I have to. It would only be poetic justice to see them totally tank as Ham gets closer and closer and realizes he made a big mistake leaving MB esp if Max ends up going there in 2026 and winning more WDCs.
Don't say that
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Robin red breast from 2035 would be a gypsies crystal ball prediction maybe, if F1 is still around
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He been saying that since last year. But he doesn't need to do anything fancy, he's just signed a 1+1 year contract. Just need to finish in front of Daniel Riccardo.
Marko said that the team now know what to do to rectify the too hard front suspension but until that time he may still struggle a bit compared to MAX. Checo as well as MAX have both been to the RB hq/factory in Bucks as part of the preparation for Barcelona to how best to deal with driving there.

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Checo can not drive the RB20 like it should be with these setup issues .
Don't see Checo make it to Q3 in this car...

The source of the RB20 issues is fundamental . It's the RB20 front suspension .

Helmut Marko : We know and we learned what we can do to fix it , but it's not fixed yet .
As MAX said : This setup issue won't be fixed in a few races ...
It's a miracle that MAX can still win races with this car .
Knowing that McLaren and Mercedes are the fastest cars at the track .

But there is hope for the RB20 , because the Red Bull Team is busy trying to copy the flexible front wings from Ferrari , Mercedes and McLaren..
The flexible front wings are approved by the FIA . Strange but true (!)
So why wouldn't they do it too ...
This is the place where MAX scored his first F1 victory when HAM crashed into ROS not completing the first lap squabbling over position so it must give MAX a special feeling going for his 4th win here.
I hear he has special helmet murals dedicated to his fans that support RBR.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/28314...well-here.html
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You can't change your character by the flick of a switch, that's VAL and if he enjoys being a cross dress tv model for a car hire company or a dirt rally cyclist for charity in his free time then good for him if he's fed up with waiting for selfish greedy F1 team managers that keep putting him on the shelf.
I worked with a Reinsurance MD once who dressed up like woman on one occasion going into Lloyds of London
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Don't say that
I don't truly care where Max drives as long as he keeps winning and setting records ablaze.
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I don't truly care where Max drives as long as he keeps winning and setting records ablaze.
I want him to keep winning also but to stay with RBR, of which I'm a genuine fan and I don't change my spots like a lot of others do.
Just because HAM is leaving for Ferrari and there was a storm in a teacup with an ex employee making trumped up allegations is no reason for MAX to leave and the silly money being allegedly offered by Merc, AM and maybe others just shows that they are nothing but gutter crawlers using money to cajole him out of his home team. Oh..Newey has left the racing team but still with RB for the hyper car, big deal, he's getting on and can't go on for ever. Most of his ingenuity has been used up at RB and I think eventually going to Ferrari,if he is thinking of that, will have little effect there as their techs have tried everything in the book anyway.
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As soon a Red Bull debuts is new "flexable front wing" the FIA will make sure they fail scrutineering.

"Don't Mess With The Bull, Young Man, You'll Get The Horns"
Or
"Don't Mess With The Red Bull, Young Man, You'll Get The Horner"
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As soon a Red Bull debuts is new "flexable front wing" the FIA will make sure they fail scrutineering.

"Don't Mess With The Bull, Young Man, You'll Get The Horns"
Or
"Don't Mess With The Red Bull, Young Man, You'll Get The Horner"
Truthfully, if the FIA isnt going to concern themselves with intentionally deceitful wings (pass the 'test' but are wildly illegal after that) then RB should push it to the extreme to the point where either teams are so angry because theirs flex so much or the FIA says sorry guys but we have to enforce the rule and none of you are able to run these wings. Maybe the static wing test isnt the right test and that they should actually determine flex during load levels and regulate like that as I am sure it easy to get that data. It's a win/win and certainly the approach I'd take. If I were them, I might also tell my team to push a few more areas of the regs knowing that the FIA is probably too busy trying to figure out 2026 that I can get away with a bit more beyond the front wing.
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Speaking to Austrian publication oe24, Marko said: "You can't say that. They (Mercedes, ed.) have a new front wing, and on the TV pictures from Montreal you can clearly see that Russell and Hamilton's wings are bending noticeably.

"However, the wings had the necessary strength when they were approved. That doesn't surprise me. I don't know how often we had to check our wings."

Speaking of the checks that aerodynamic parts need to go through, Marko noted: "There is a precisely defined procedure with weights under which a wing must not bend. It is a popular game of pushing everything to the limit so that it passes the technical inspection.

"During the race, the wing then lowers, which ensures better aerodynamics. It has come up again and again when the deformation was clearly visible in the television images."

Marko confirmed that Red Bull had taken a look at the flexibility of the W15's front wing. Although the first inspection did not reveal any issues, the Austrian said that the inspection will be carried out in the coming rounds again.

"Everything was OK in Montreal. There is a new inspection for Barcelona and Spielberg etc., and it has to be OK again. Of course, the competition is looking at that critically, not just us."
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Here we go again

Lawsuit? Lol. If FIA is happy what lawsuit? If FIA is not happy, what lawsuit? If championships are not decided by lawsuits then wings certainly won't.
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