Yet another BMW supercar rumor: mid-engine supercar project with Toyota?

M3JHWK · 09-24-2015, 03:14 AM

Doubt it will happen, the beancounters rule BMW these days. On top of that, they are so shit scared to be last to the supercar party that they probably won't green light anything at this point. They have the tech but are lacking the will it seems. I sincerely hope they prove me wrong however...

clar · 09-24-2015, 03:20 AM

BMW and Toyota in joint venture to build new half-series active tourer with hybrid drive-train giving 100 mpg

DeeKay · 09-24-2015, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ove

If Bmw where to make a supercar i'd much rather see them do it themselves, then with the help of Toyota/Lexus.

My thought exactly! Not to be ignorant or anything, but after showing they can make incredible stuff like the i8 (I know it's a completely different thing) what would they need McLaren or Toyota for? I know it's better to share and stakeholders to spend money on Eco projects than racing projects but still?

Why not make an incredible car and take all the shine themselves?

David70 · 09-24-2015, 08:19 AM

I also agree, there is very little if any financial gain for a major manufacturer to build a Supercar (I can't imagine the new Ford will help the bottom line) so much of it is a Marketing function and showcasing what they can do.

I see far less of a benefit of the above with a joint project with Toyota or some other manufacturer. Even with McLaren many would think it was only possible to accomplish with help.

kooper · 09-24-2015, 10:56 AM

Ha! I give it 2, maybe 3 months before this also results in being vehemently denied by a BMW spokesperson.

I honestly think that BMW will never release a mid-engined performance car ever again. If they ever venture into the sportscar market again, it will probably be front-engined and RWD. Nothing wrong with that, it's what they've been doing and doing well for how long now.

The ONLY way the world would see a mid-engined performance car with a BMW powerplant in it is if it's another Ascari, or McLaren, or whatever other supercar used BMW oily bits. BMW themselves making a mid-engined performance car? Reckon it will carry an i badge, or it just won't happen.

Besides, how does BMW's plan to phase out internal combustion engines factor into all of these rumors? It's in the next 10 years supposedly? Would BMW really go for this type of car if that plan is strictly being adhered to? Kind of doubt it.
Hybrid? Perhaps. 488 or R8 or Huracan type of 'traditional' supercar? Don't think so.

EDIT: Just to add, if BMW was going to be doing something like this, then it should've been done more than a decade ago. With the strict emissions of today and it just getting stricter, they'd be better off concentrating on that ICE phasing-out plan of theirs. It's a pity, but let's be realistic.

09-24-2015, 03:14 AM	#23
M3JHWK Nutter 76 Rep 106 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: KS iTrader: (0)	Doubt it will happen, the beancounters rule BMW these days. On top of that, they are so shit scared to be last to the supercar party that they probably won't green light anything at this point. They have the tech but are lacking the will it seems. I sincerely hope they prove me wrong however...
	Appreciate 0 Quote

09-24-2015, 03:20 AM	#24
clar Major 147 Rep 1,440 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Singapore iTrader: (0)	BMW and Toyota in joint venture to build new half-series active tourer with hybrid drive-train giving 100 mpg __________________ - Frozen Grey F10 M5 DCT - Rosso Corsa 458 Speciale Sold - Frozen Grey E92 M3 Sold
	Appreciate 0 Quote

09-24-2015, 08:19 AM	#26
David70 Colonel 1755 Rep 2,835 Posts Drives: 20 AM Vantage -13 Cadillac ATS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH iTrader: (1)	I also agree, there is very little if any financial gain for a major manufacturer to build a Supercar (I can't imagine the new Ford will help the bottom line) so much of it is a Marketing function and showcasing what they can do. I see far less of a benefit of the above with a joint project with Toyota or some other manufacturer. Even with McLaren many would think it was only possible to accomplish with help. __________________ 2006 Z4M Coupe - ZHP knob, stubby antenna, clutch delay delete
	Appreciate 0 Quote

09-24-2015, 10:56 AM	#27
kooper Private First Class 45 Rep 109 Posts Drives: E36 M3 (I wish) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Somewhere iTrader: (0)	Ha! I give it 2, maybe 3 months before this also results in being vehemently denied by a BMW spokesperson. I honestly think that BMW will never release a mid-engined performance car ever again. If they ever venture into the sportscar market again, it will probably be front-engined and RWD. Nothing wrong with that, it's what they've been doing and doing well for how long now. The ONLY way the world would see a mid-engined performance car with a BMW powerplant in it is if it's another Ascari, or McLaren, or whatever other supercar used BMW oily bits. BMW themselves making a mid-engined performance car? Reckon it will carry an i badge, or it just won't happen. Besides, how does BMW's plan to phase out internal combustion engines factor into all of these rumors? It's in the next 10 years supposedly? Would BMW really go for this type of car if that plan is strictly being adhered to? Kind of doubt it. Hybrid? Perhaps. 488 or R8 or Huracan type of 'traditional' supercar? Don't think so. EDIT: Just to add, if BMW was going to be doing something like this, then it should've been done more than a decade ago. With the strict emissions of today and it just getting stricter, they'd be better off concentrating on that ICE phasing-out plan of theirs. It's a pity, but let's be realistic.
	Appreciate 0 Quote