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      09-24-2015, 12:08 PM   #23
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except: X3 diesel also caught up European emissions scandal. BMW denies.

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The biggest question though is what the German government and people will do. They can either try and shield VW or force through some dramatic changes including selling pieces off.
Why on earth would they do either of those things?
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This could be BP oil spill big for VW. I highly doubt they have or can develop quickly any kind of fix that will greatly improve emissions to become compliant while maintaining advertised performance capabilities. Not only will they certainly be hit by some very large government fines, but the civil suits from owners will be huge. The biggest question though is what the German government and people will do. They can either try and shield VW or force through some dramatic changes including selling pieces off.
I have a 2011 VW Jetta TDI. Have never been involved in a class-action lawsuit, but if I'm forced to take my vehicle in for a recall that robs me of fuel mileage or costs the vehicle a significant power performance, I'll likely join whatever class-action hits the street.

I'm in Tennessee, which has lower emission standards than other states, but the Feds will almost certainly force a recall anyway.
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Hope WW3 doesn't break out due to all this, this is the people's wagon after all, the punishment meted out to GM does seem egregious, and the Germans are once again working on Super Weapons:

http://sputniknews.com/europe/201509...laser-gun.html


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"other" auto makers will be next.

A friend of mine suggested (to me) what IF Fiat Group uses this opportunity to swoop in and buy VAG thru a hostile taker over. Wouldn't THAT be something!!

We are in for some interesting automotive times in the next few weeks.

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VAG will survive, but its managing agents (including Winterkorn) may get jailed for their fraud.
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