[Em135eye]

Alfas always look good at motor shows then disappoint in reality. I suspect this will be the same.

[Kief]

Originally Posted by FriskyDingo

I was called a BMW fanboy

You say this like it's something bad
I'm a die hard BMW Fanboy and PROUD of it!!!

[loknar]

I was an Alfa fanboy.

The 156 was awesome (for it's price/time) and subsequent models are descent.

We buy alfas to get something unique and special. It's a narrow niche of neither supercar nor mass production. Fiat seems to want to use the brand for selling their top line of cars. So they're not "true" alfas anymore, in my opinion. Therefore, the logo doesn't mean anything to me anymore...

Oh and this design doesn't seem to be Pininfarina to me. If they want to come back in style why do they come up with an extremely similar design to the 2008 Jaguar XJ? It's not bad looking but I expect stunning. No they just want n outlet for a big fiat.

[AlexR6]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

Quote:
Automotive News published a report last week saying two suppliers had insisted the Giulia, on the eve of production, didn't just fail one internal crash test, but failed the front, side and rear impact tests. A third supplier source told us the same thing. Alfa is denying it.

It was due on sale in Europe late last year and was supposed to be here in the next month or two. But it wasn't, and it won't. It was to be headlined by a twin-turbo V6 that reportedly howled its way around the Nürburgring 14 seconds faster than the BMW M3 could manage. That second part is only true if you believe it's fair to compare a full lap in a standard BMW M3 with a favorable accumulation of sector times to a development prototype Giulia with 220 pounds stripped out of it and rolling on hand-cut racing slicks.

No, me neither.

Where all this bullshit came from?

[SCOTT26]

Of course it is going into production because there has been external help in solving earlier issues.
Why do you think Audi are now naming their small crossover the Q2 now.

BMW are not phased by the "figures" as many speculate they are because their M3 was not stripped out. The comparison between a standard M3 and lighter M4 GTS is abundantly clear.

[Firaxis]

So what do you think to this?

TURIN -- Alfa Romeo will unveil the long-delayed mainstream versions of its Giulia midsize sedan at the Geneva auto show next week.

The debut follows presentation of the high-performance, top-of-the-line Giulia Quadrifoglio in Frankfurt last September.

The Giulia, a rival to the Audi A4 and BMW 3 series, will be shown with an entry-level 2.0-liter gasoline engine and a 2.2-liter diesel that is unlikely to be sold in the U.S. The Giulia Quadrifoglio has a Ferrari-derived 505-hp twin-turbocharged V-6.

U.S. sales of the Quadrifoglio will begin in the third quarter, with the 2.0-liter version arriving in U.S. showrooms by year end, Alfa has said. Originally, the Quadrifoglio was expected in the U.S. in the first quarter and the rest of the range by midyear.

The new 2.0-liter engine, a direct-injection, turbocharged four-cylinder, will be available in 180-hp, 250-hp and 330-hp versions. The engine also has FCA's MultiAir variable valve system.

The Giulia will also use a higher-output variant of a revised 2.2-liter diesel introduced last year on the Jeep Cherokee. The engine has a top output of 210 hp but also will be offered in more fuel-efficient 135-hp and 180-hp variants.

The Giulia, previewed at the Alfa Romeo museum in June 2015, has had a bumpy development. This month, FCA lured former Ferrari chief engineer Roberto Fedeli back from BMW Group to help fix mounting technical challenges at Alfa and Maserati.

[loknar]

Originally Posted by Firaxis

The Giulia will also use a higher-output variant of a revised 2.2-liter diesel introduced last year on the Jeep Cherokee.

Never expected to see Alfa and Jeep in the same sentence except: "That fucking Jeep is blocking my view of this Alfa!". Is there nothing sacred?

Joke is on me for being dumb to have ever been a fanboy of any brand at all! It's only about profit now.

[AlexR6]

Originally Posted by loknar

Never expected to see Alfa and Jeep in the same sentence except: "That fucking Jeep is blocking my view of this Alfa!". Is there nothing sacred?

Joke is on me for being dumb to have ever been a fanboy of any brand at all! It's only about profit now.

It's the same for BMW-Mini or Audi-VW-Skoda or Audi-Lamborghini..............

We're not in the 60's anymore

[Manbnda]

Is anyone excited about how this car will compete against the 3?

http://www.motortrend.com/news/more-...pr=18332466311

[Blksnowflake]

Here we go...

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by loknar

Never expected to see Alfa and Jeep in the same sentence except: "That f*** Jeep is blocking my view of this Alfa!". Is there nothing sacred?

Funny: I never expected to see Jeep on this jersey, either ... but, then, 2012 happened in Serie A ...