[JibSTir13]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

The Challenger is a decade old and rides on an even older platform. It's mighty impressive what they were able to achieve with a car that's so dynamically mediocre to start with. This is the one and only time in history I'm complimenting Chrysler so props to the guys and gals who worked on this project.

Meanwhile, the Tesla fanboys on their forums are finding ways to rag on this. One guy even said "nobody but a skilled driver could achieve those numbers, whereas its so easy in the Model S even a grandma can do it." The clown doesn't realize that's the whole point of a performance car. The fun is in developing the skills to exploit their limits, not just mashing your foot down which a monkey could be trained to do. It's just more proof that Tesla fans aren't real car guys.

I've met a few Tesla owners, and agree with your statement - most are not real car guys in the way many on this board are car guys.

Sorry for the off-topic...back to the monster that is the Demon. It is badass car, can't wait to see and hear one in person.

[Properstyle]

Originally Posted by Captain comic

True haha. However, I wouldn't exactly call it a "factory car". A limited production car that is a highly tuned already from "the factory" - it's basically very similar to a custom tuned 335. Save for warranty maybe, you are right, but I bet those who buy Demon won't buy it because of factory warranty lol

My initial point was more to acknowledge a fact that I'm sure many people will know Demon due to it's show off fancy naming and aggressive body style and looks, but very few know that a sleeper Germany luxury sedan can sent that Demon back to hell hole it came from lol

335i's have issues running 10s with stock drive train let alone even thinking about 9s an none have ever run a 9 anything. It doesn't matter that its beefed up, because at the end of the day that 0 miles car comes ready to run a 9s car, not a car that someone put a after market warranty on and hope the car is covered.

SO NO, NO GERMAN SEDAN IS TOUCHING A DEMON IN 1/4

[kprocivic]

Originally Posted by fhaze3

wouldn't it measure out to 8.4"? HPI (Horsepower x100 per penis inch?)

haha math was never my subject.

[fbsm]

Originally Posted by TunedM2

Insanity. I applaud them for making this and it will be interesting to see how the other big two manufacturers respond.

This

[TXSTYLE]

NUCKING FUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is all.

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by JibSTir13

I've met a few Tesla owners, and agree with your statement - most are not real car guys in the way many on this board are car guys.

Sorry for the off-topic...back to the monster that is the Demon. It is badass car, can't wait to see and hear one in person.

I used to sell Teslas in college and really started feeling this way quickly. Nothing wrong with being a techie who likes Teslas, but I couldn't handle the smugness of a lot of them.

Now back on topic...

[MiamiFan13]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

Meanwhile, the Tesla fanboys on their forums are finding ways to rag on this. One guy even said "nobody but a skilled driver could achieve those numbers, whereas its so easy in the Model S even a grandma can do it." The clown doesn't realize that's the whole point of a performance car. The fun is in developing the skills to exploit their limits, not just mashing your foot down which a monkey could be trained to do. It's just more proof that Tesla fans aren't real car guys.

I agree. These were my thoughts when DCT's/SMG's started appearing. Nothing against those who chose automatics, but when the production numbers soared along with the intro of autos, it was clear that a different type emerged among the enthusiasts.

[trey100]

Interesting. Discussion on the NHRA required roll cage.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-show...-the-nhra-ban/

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

I saw Dodge has the Demon lifting the front wheels at the NY Auto Show today...


Demonic Wheelie by glenn Q, on Flickr

[swanson]

Originally Posted by Captain comic

Isn't many 335 out there who do 9sec 1/4 currently? I know at least 3 on this forum, all with single turbos, but many more of them out there, like this one for example:

I bet a 6-pack that he will walk away from that Demon

But at the end of the day, its just another boring, run of mill, 3 series BMW with zero character or appeal. You can make anything fast.

[Vigilante375]

Either way. How many production cars can run 9s in the 1/4 mile, completely stock (literally stock because it comes with skinny tires for the front and drag radials for the rear) and with a warranty? 1....the Demon.

They really revised the suspension, worked the engine and are giving the tools to us to do so.

I'm still surprised that it can do 9.65 being how heavy it is. But the gearing, tires and suspension really does seem to work.

If you run 9.99 or faster at a NHRA track, then you have to get a NHRA license and safety equipment installed. Which I could only assume is a roll cage.

[trey100]

One big difference between the ultra-modified 3 series and this car is that the demon will handle 800+ horsepower more reliably since it is coming from the factory and has probably gone through more extensive testing considering they will have to warranty it.

And since it was designed around drag radials and they are comfortable talking about buyer putting slicks on the car, it must have pretty sturdy components.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

I only took two pictures of the Demon today... I figured I'd share the other.


The Demonic Wheelie Show by glenn Q, on Flickr

[trey100]

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-show...n-easter-eggs/

Road & Track is continually posting new stuff on the Demon. 35" off the ground. Can't wait to see that.

[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by Captain comic

Isn't many 335 out there who do 9sec 1/4 currently? I know at least 3 on this forum, all with single turbos, but many more of them out there, like this one for example:

I bet a 6-pack that he will walk away from that Demon

Fastest 335i I could find is in the 10's, got a link to one in the 9's?

[vpatel867]

beast.

[datbimmer]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Naturally that's a very impressive 1/4 mile time for a factory stock, street legal car.

It is interesting to me that although the car has a 315mm square setup, many press photos show skinny tires on the front, like this one:



I don't suppose it ships with the second set of front wheels/tires? Assuming not, presumably putting the heavier 315s on would slow it down a touch.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by datbimmer

...

Thanks for the pics.

[Super Spartan]

840 BHP / 770 pound feet of torque:

0-60 in 2.3 seconds!

[8k4]

Hmm factory choosing K/N, guess they don't suck, read so many reports of them having no benefit over stock

[RobC2]

I am very impressed. I love this new generation of muscle cars.

[oonowindoo]

Originally Posted by Captain comic

True haha. However, I wouldn't exactly call it a "factory car". A limited production car that is a highly tuned already from "the factory" - it's basically very similar to a custom tuned 335. Save for warranty maybe, you are right, but I bet those who buy Demon won't buy it because of factory warranty lol

My initial point was more to acknowledge a fact that I'm sure many people will know Demon due to it's show off fancy naming and aggressive body style and looks, but very few know that a sleeper Germany luxury sedan can sent that Demon back to hell hole it came from lol

You know the Civic crowd can say the same about the BMW... The moment you bring aftermarket into the equation, then it will become a very different conversation.

You can make ANYTHING fast with enough $$.