[nyalpine90]

cayenne s would be nice, i was going thru CPO iventory.
price are interesting.

[TomD335xicoupe]

I had 3 911s and a Cayenne S over the years loved them all , no special issues with any of them. Had an A4 also nothing to speak about, OK car for what it was. Tracked and AutoX all three 911s drove them to and from events and kicked the snot out of them , the cars were bullet proof as long as you take care of the maintenance. My experience is BMW has so many more issues than either brand but a lot has to do with model choice and application. If I were still earning what I was I would be driving a Porsche no question.

[Jdub679]

I've owned a 2008 Audi RS4 and my wife currently has a 2017 Audi A4. Fit and finish with both have been very tight. Better than my BMW, imo. I have a buddy with an 2008 A4 that has nearly 250k miles and it's starting to experience maintenance issues that require attention (fluid leaks, alternator, etc). Thing is, if it were my car, I could take care of a lot of those things myself as basic maintenance items. Basically, I haven't experienced any issues with new vehicles. But as they age, there's more to repair. This is the same as any vehicle with as much tech as they have.

I plan to get into a used Porsche (maybe Cayman S or 997 911) in the next couple years, and I'm mildly concerned with reliability, like you. Thing is, it will be my weekend car so my mileage will be limited.

Tesla - a couple of my buddies have S's. To be honest, I still can't wrap my head around the fact that people can dismiss all the little stuff that goes wrong with these cars. If I bought a new $100k+ car, and my door knobs didn't work right or the door wouldn't close right, I would be pissed. But somehow they're okay with this - saying that Tesla responds to their issues quickly with service. That would still not make it okay with me.

[fkim119]

I've had countless Porsches and I they are the most reliable brand for me. I drive hard, I maintain well and nothing ever really breaks.

Just recently I turned in my 2013 Cayenne Turbo I bought new and put over 100K on the dial that was almost problem free. Things did start to wear out nearing 100K but I expected that.

Dad drove a 2011 CTT bought new and put over 120K on the dial which was traded in for a CTTS in 2016.

I wouldn't hesitate to own a Porsche like I do with MB and BMW. They really do stress the details.

[BMW F22]

As far as maintenance goes, what exactly do we need to do? I assume just like BMW's it's oil changes, etc.

[Motorsportenterprise]

Originally Posted by fkim119

I've had countless Porsches and I they are the most reliable brand for me. I drive hard, I maintain well and nothing ever really breaks.

Just recently I turned in my 2013 Cayenne Turbo I bought new and put over 100K on the dial that was almost problem free. Things did start to wear out nearing 100K but I expected that.

Dad drove a 2011 CTT bought new and put over 120K on the dial which was traded in for a CTTS in 2016.

I wouldn't hesitate to own a Porsche like I do with MB and BMW. They really do stress the details.

Totally the same experience. My Porsche's have been the best built, best reliability and easily the ones you can tell sweat the most minor details and by and large perfect them. My close family are also Porsche owners with the same experience. Likely 25-30 Porsche's owned and same experience across all.
I've only had a couple Audis and they seem ok but not enough ownership to determine yet.
My BMWs, mostly M3s and M4 have been pretty good. I've seen they're quality slip in recent years which I don't think their overall fit or finish are where they should be. Mechanically the cars have not had major issues, but some quite annoying ones (DCT clutch packs).

[fkim119]

Originally Posted by BMW F22

As far as maintenance goes, what exactly do we need to do? I assume just like BMW's it's oil changes, etc.

From the Porsche

I have had, which is the Turbo motors...

The manufacturer seems to want things replaced really quickly.

Spark plugs every 40K.

Replace Air Filters every other service which is basically every 20K (You can DIY).

The diff oil is suppose to last the life of your Porsche but I replaced mine at 60K just for precaution since I knew I will be driving it to 100K or beyond.

Nothing out of the ordinary and maintenance doesn't most more then your BMW, or MBZ.

[saeyedoc]

I went from a 335i to a '12 Cayman S, leased it at first, liked it so much I bought it out and kept it another two years. I put around 60k miles on it, only issue was a fuel sensor that cost about $2k to fix out of warranty. I then traded it for a '13 Carrera S about a year ago, love it even more! Maintenance is expensive, just had to do the front brakes with sensors and rotors and it was around $1500.
I had several Audis starting in the mid 90s. Had no problems except for an A8 which had problems with one of the oil pans that cost about $3k to fix.
My BMW was the most unreliable car I had, it was when they had problems with the HPFP.

[BMW F22]

So I looked up Porsche Macan reliability on TrueDelta and it seems to have a very average rating (rattling, steering column shaking issues). The Cayman and 911 models have better reliability. This concerns me as I?m looking into a Macan S. According to TrueDelta BMW?s and Porsche have similar ratings. Lexus, of course, is ranked very highly.

Curious why other reports like CR and JD Power have Porsche just below Lexus. Can anyone advise?

[overcoil]

Originally Posted by BMW F22

So I looked up Porsche Macan reliability on TrueDelta and it seems to have a very average rating (rattling, steering column shaking issues). The Cayman and 911 models have better reliability. This concerns me as I?m looking into a Macan S. According to TrueDelta BMW?s and Porsche have similar ratings. Lexus, of course, is ranked very highly.

Curious why other reports like CR and JD Power have Porsche just below Lexus. Can anyone advise?

Wiki TrueDelta for some insight.

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by ScottSinger

Wiki TrueDelta for some insight.

Thanks. So basically small sample size. Hmm

[MaC-N54-E82]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

When I first bought my CPO Audi S4 (2010) 6MT, I called Audi to see how much a new clutch would cost.

They told me $5,000.

I sold the car.

Audi bad. Porsche good.

Completely agree. The clutch in my S4 was replaced twice in 40,000 miles. I paid for the first one $3,800 and Audi paid for round two, less than 10,000 miles later. At which point I gladly dumped it.

[jpdchicago]

Didn’t Porsche have some major GT3 issues about 3 years ago?
Engines catching fire, 100s of engines replaced, etc...
And GT3s are supposed to be near the top of the line...
Feel free to google it...

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by fkim119

I've had countless Porsches and I they are the most reliable brand for me. I drive hard, I maintain well and nothing ever really breaks.

Just recently I turned in my 2013 Cayenne Turbo I bought new and put over 100K on the dial that was almost problem free. Things did start to wear out nearing 100K but I expected that.

Dad drove a 2011 CTT bought new and put over 120K on the dial which was traded in for a CTTS in 2016.

I wouldn't hesitate to own a Porsche like I do with MB and BMW. They really do stress the details.

It will be interesting to see how the new turbocharged engines hold up.

[saeyedoc]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

It will be interesting to see how the new turbocharged engines hold up.

Porsche has a long history with turbos, I wouldn't worry.

[RedCarrot]

I owed a 987 Boxster S for 8.5 years and its reliability was rock solid. Only had 2 minor issues during my entire ownership: whistling sound from driver-side mirror when window is down; soft top trim not aligned with window when putting the top back up.

Maintenance upkeep is minimal, and even scheduled oil change spans over longer interval (mine was every 20k though I did it every 10k or once per year, whichever came first).

Their service is expensive. Then again all BMW, Mercedes, Audi and most EU makes are. Maintenance items are easy DIYs. I.E. if you can change a light bulb you can change its oil and save $150-200. Same for cabin filter, windshield wipers, etc.

Alignment was the only maintenance item that I was at Porche's mercy. Indy shops, even reputable ones, could not get it right. I bent over at Porche's $300 rate to do the alignment.

I sold my 8.5 year-old car with 66K miles at 40% residual of what I paid for it new. There was not a hint of wear on the drivetrain at the time of my selling.

[fkim119]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

It will be interesting to see how the new turbocharged engines hold up.

The new turbocharged engines really aren't that new.

[Motorsportenterprise]

Originally Posted by BMW F22

So I looked up Porsche Macan reliability on TrueDelta and it seems to have a very average rating (rattling, steering column shaking issues). The Cayman and 911 models have better reliability. This concerns me as I?m looking into a Macan S. According to TrueDelta BMW?s and Porsche have similar ratings. Lexus, of course, is ranked very highly.

Curious why other reports like CR and JD Power have Porsche just below Lexus. Can anyone advise?

My girl and I both had Macans and they were absolutely perfect. No rattles at all. Nothing but a quality vehicle with no issues whatsoever. If you look at JD power over the last 15 years Porsche ranks highest or as one of the highest in initial quality and overall dependability and I can attest to that. BMW over the same time period has been close to industry average or worse.

[P1]

I look at it like this: as long as you own it under warranty, who cares if it's reliable or not?

[P1]

Originally Posted by RedCarrot

I owed a 987 Boxster S for 8.5 years and its reliability was rock solid. Only had 2 minor issues during my entire ownership: whistling sound from driver-side mirror when window is down; soft top trim not aligned with window when putting the top back up.

Maintenance upkeep is minimal, and even scheduled oil change spans over longer interval (mine was every 20k though I did it every 10k or once per year, whichever came first).

Their service is expensive. Then again all BMW, Mercedes, Audi and most EU makes are. Maintenance items are easy DIYs. I.E. if you can change a light bulb you can change its oil and save $150-200. Same for cabin filter, windshield wipers, etc.

Alignment was the only maintenance item that I was at Porche's mercy. Indy shops, even reputable ones, could not get it right. I bent over at Porche's $300 rate to do the alignment.

I sold my 8.5 year-old car with 66K miles at 40% residual of what I paid for it new. There was not a hint of wear on the drivetrain at the time of my selling.

My BMW dealer charges $250 for alignment.

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by P1et

I look at it like this: as long as you own it under warranty, who cares if it's reliable or not?

Looking to own it long term. Will look into certifying costs. I think it?s around $2,000-3,000.

[P1]

Originally Posted by BMW F22

Looking to own it long term. Will look into certifying costs. I think it?s around $2,000-3,000.

Depends on a lot of factors mate. Find the one you like, then inquire about extending the warranty.