Oh Snap, sub 3 second CTS-V! Bye bye M5

quagmire · 06-10-2008, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gadget

This car won't go past 132mph top speed. It always breaks down before it gets that far.... POS Car, not even in the same league as an ///M Car.

Is this sarcasm or just ignorant BMW kool aid drinking?

jlspeed29 · 06-10-2008, 12:36 AM

the cts-v or whatever could have 600hp I would still not buy that POS

domestics FTL

Caster · 06-10-2008, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefly6

Ever drive a CTS? You'll come running back to your BMW. Forget the HP.

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Originally Posted by gadget

This car won't go past 132mph top speed. It always breaks down before it gets that far.... POS Car, not even in the same league as an ///M Car.

Don't mean to burst your bubble fanboys, but you might want to see this:
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/14/v...nto-submissio/

CTS-V: 7:59
E60 M5: 8:13
E92 M3: 8:05

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times

Richardo · 06-10-2008, 02:44 AM

I really like my 335i, but I test drove the previous version CTS-V and would rate it as very comparable in performance and driving fun. Like the 335i, the CTS-V handles and communicates the road very well. I had a blast driving it around some roundabouts near the dealership. It's a little bigger too, but I liked having a smaller car plus the outstanding automatic on the BMW. Cadillac, like BMW, has put in a lot of track time on the CTS-V. I think they're both great cars.

vAnt826 · 06-10-2008, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Richardo

I really like my 335i, but I test drove the previous version CTS-V and would rate it as very comparable in performance and driving fun. Like the 335i, the CTS-V handles and communicates the road very well. I had a blast driving it around some roundabouts near the dealership. It's a little bigger too, but I liked having a smaller car plus the outstanding automatic on the BMW. Cadillac, like BMW, has put in a lot of track time on the CTS-V. I think they're both great cars.

I love how everyone says that it will ride like shit before actually driving it.

Well, they are doing something right if it trounces the E92 M3 in the Nurburgring.

This is the best of both Germans. The horsepower freak and the track freak.

Hate to sound like a Cadillac fanboy but...

keanu1 · 06-10-2008, 08:06 AM

that truck in the picture is cts?!?!?

TheCyrax · 06-10-2008, 08:28 AM

How much is the base price on this thing?? Around 70k?

Epacy · 06-10-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AJerman

@ a sub 10 second car doesn't mean under 10 seconds. You guys crack me up. You must know all those Civic drivers. "YEAH MAN! MY CAR IS SUB 10 SECOND! And by that I mean it's close... it runs 17s."

Anyway, screw the sedan. The new CTS coupe is one of the most beautiful cars ever made.

But as stated before, It's still going to ride like a Cadillac and not a BMW.

The coupe is dead sexy. Saw it at Chicago and it looks fabulous. I like how Cadillac has gone with the Aston Martin interior theme.

Firefly6 · 06-10-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by vAnt826

I love how everyone says that it will ride like shit before actually driving it.

I've only driven the 304HP version without the FE-3 suspension, and although I am sure the CTS-V is awesome, this is a Cadillac, and is skewed toward luxury. IMO it is a beautifully designed car. The huge sunroof is great, and the slick cockpit and "Dr. Evil" pop-up touch screen are impressive, but coming out of my 330 I felt disconnected from the road. Exiting the dealer lot for the test drive I made a quick right, accellerating from a stop. The steering just felt confused at that action, and that is where the CTS lost me. The rest of the drive I felt like I was driving a Buick.

rubber_ducky · 06-10-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by quagmire

Is this sarcasm or just ignorant BMW kool aid drinking?

My money is on the latter.

AJayE92 · 06-10-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefly6

Ever drive a CTS? You'll come running back to your BMW. Forget the HP.

i feel the sameway

AJayE92 · 06-10-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by vAnt826

I love how everyone says that it will ride like shit before actually driving it.

Well, they are doing something right if it trounces the E92 M3 in the Nurburgring.

This is the best of both Germans. The horsepower freak and the track freak.

Hate to sound like a Cadillac fanboy but...

wow thats gorgeous

BK · 06-10-2008, 10:46 AM

I'm considering spending a bit more on the next car. Amazing the choices in sport sedans now, with the C63, M3, IS-F, and now the CTS-V all with tremendous engines. I'm looking forward to the test drives.

ukthunderace · 06-10-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gadget

This car won't go past 132mph top speed. It always breaks down before it gets that far.... POS Car, not even in the same league as an ///M Car.

So that would make it, what, a sub 130mph top speed, right? Just trying to get in line with this new way of thinking....maybe another percocet would help.

Amir87 · 06-10-2008, 02:33 PM

The price is supposedly in the low to mid 60's.

Not bad at all.

lyndon_h · 06-10-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sflgator

My 335i gets 17mpg City / 25mpg Hwy. and ~ 20mpg mixed. Anyways, obviously with a slightly detuned 'Vette ZR1 engine, the Caddy CTS-V will be extremely powerful and fast, but I bet it will be expensive and won't be a big seller.

You are correct. I'm averaging 20mpg also.

lyndon_h · 06-10-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gadget

This car won't go past 132mph top speed. It always breaks down before it gets that far.... POS Car, not even in the same league as an ///M Car.

I'm willing to bet that the LSx engine is more durable than any ///M engine.

M3350Z · 06-10-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jlspeed29

the cts-v or whatever could have 600hp I would still not buy that POS

domestics FTL

+1

lyndon_h · 06-10-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jlspeed29

the cts-v or whatever could have 600hp I would still not buy that POS

domestics FTL

Call it how YOU see it, but that POS is faster around the Ring than the M5, has a better interior, will probably get better gas mileage and prolly faster in a straight line also. If that's what a POS is called, then what is the M5 called? A less capable POS?

SunnyBoo · 06-10-2008, 07:43 PM

The only way anybody can compete with BMWs is with more horsepower..............other than that BMWs

and

to the rest...............

SunnyBoo · 06-10-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lyndon_h

Call it how YOU see it, but that POS is faster around the Ring than the M5, has a better interior, will probably get better gas mileage and prolly faster in a straight line also. If that's what a POS is called, then what is the M5 called? A less capable POS?

Straight line is no fun.................BMW = fun

quagmire · 06-10-2008, 10:07 PM

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*

Oh man, the exhaust from what I can hear is sweet. I love that it sounds like a N/A engine.

PS: I feel bad for all the image snobs, 18 year olds using facts from the 80's( you weren't even born then), and the blind fanboys. You're not a true car enthusiast. You can have your favorites, but you have to respect every car out there. Saying a M5 is better then the new CTS-V is blind fanboyism when so far the CTS-V has it beat on everything, but taste. It beats it on the 'Ring, 0-60, etc. How can you guys say the CTS-V is a fat pig and give a pass to the M5? It is right up there in the curb weight against the CTS-V. I may prefer the Z06 to the GT-R, but doesn't mean the GT-R isn't a beast and is a POS. It doesn't suit my taste. Simple as that. The same when it comes to M cars. They're great cars. The V8 and V10 are amazing engines. But, they do lack one critical component in performance: TORQUE. Right now I would say the CTS-V and maybe arguably the IS-F seem to be the only vehicles able to match M cars. Your reaction is proof of that. Your favorite car is threatened so you people spew out shit about it. No disrespect for the C63 AMG. It is a beast. But, reviews have shown it only shines in the straight line. In the corner, it just falls apart and the M3 can break away.

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quagmire I am Gundam 195 Rep 1,211 Posts Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.* Oh man, the exhaust from what I can hear is sweet. I love that it sounds like a N/A engine. PS: I feel bad for all the image snobs, 18 year olds using facts from the 80's( you weren't even born then), and the blind fanboys. You're not a true car enthusiast. You can have your favorites, but you have to respect every car out there. Saying a M5 is better then the new CTS-V is blind fanboyism when so far the CTS-V has it beat on everything, but taste. It beats it on the 'Ring, 0-60, etc. How can you guys say the CTS-V is a fat pig and give a pass to the M5? It is right up there in the curb weight against the CTS-V. I may prefer the Z06 to the GT-R, but doesn't mean the GT-R isn't a beast and is a POS. It doesn't suit my taste. Simple as that. The same when it comes to M cars. They're great cars. The V8 and V10 are amazing engines. But, they do lack one critical component in performance: TORQUE. Right now I would say the CTS-V and maybe arguably the IS-F seem to be the only vehicles able to match M cars. Your reaction is proof of that. Your favorite car is threatened so you people spew out shit about it. No disrespect for the C63 AMG. It is a beast. But, reviews have shown it only shines in the straight line. In the corner, it just falls apart and the M3 can break away.
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