[xxForgedxx]

Originally Posted by herbz

while the chuck dude you originally quoted is retarded, theres some flaws in your post as well

the e46 m3 is 10 years old. back in 1999 it got 333hp out of its naturally aspirated inline 6. find me another car from 1999 that did that with NA 6 cylinders. hell find me a car today that does that with 6 cylinders 3 liters NA.

comparing it to a mustang is retarded. guess what i can buy an e30 325 with no rust for about 5k and put 20k into it and it will run circles around any crapstang out there. even better i can buy a civic for $500 and put $20k into it and it will run circles around porsches, mustangs, and whatever else u wanna throw at it.

point is there is no room to diss the e46 m3, it is a classic car, the styling is classic, performance/luxury ratio is perfect, the steering feel is better than any shitstain mustang, the power delivery of the engine is linear and smooth, its still fast today despite the fact that its 10 years old. theres a reason GM and ford is in the toilet. people would rather drive plastic camry's and corollas than american made fords and GM's. that's saying something.

Here we go again with a BMW fanboi running to the defense with my interiors better.

-No one asked which car you can build for less money to do what.

-It was said by me that it costs MUCH less to fix the Mustangs handling flaw than it does a BMW to make the power the Mustang makes

-No one asked about styling (subjective) no one asked for a perfect luxury combination and bla bla bla.

-Did you really just use the word CLASSIC in the BMW's defense against a FORD MUSTANG GT?! lol 1964? vs... umm 198X riiight lets compare the numbers of each sold JUST from 198X +

-No one talked trash about the M3 I just said it wasn't that fast

-The last time I checked it was 2008 and the first E46 M3 came out in the states as a 2001 = 10 years? Someone isn't good with math

-The last time I checked there was no E46 M3 in 1999 = you fail again

How do you expect ANYONE to even consider your statements to hold any weight when you just babbled your way around fact with incorrect spec?

[Spec 1]

/\ There is no way you could make a Mustang handle like a Bimmer with $3-4k. Suspension work is the first thing I do to any car I own, and $3-4k is easy to spend on just simple setup work. Springs, shocks, bushings, camber kits, and tuning will max out your budget. While your Stang won't handle like crap anymore it's still not up to par with a stock high-end 3 series. Also as far as getting a 335i to be as fast as a Stang GT, I think it would take about $5-7k.

Of course you didn't argue anything about interior, luxury, or driver feel. That's because it's not worth arguing, we already know the winner. Don't call the guy a fanboi because he's sticking up for an M3 being better than a Mustang GT. Everything is relative, yes, but most of the general population would agree with him and not you.


Edit: I haven't driven the new gen Stangs so I hold my final words. The concept posted on the 1st page looked pretty good. I'm considering buying Domestic soon, though a GM (Cadi) product, not Ford.

[skierman64]

The most important stat that hasn't been mentioned here is weight. The Mustang weighs 300 to 400 lbs more than a M3. That's a serious penalty for any kind of performance car.

[Blake]

oh my

it looks like an elongated mitsubishi

[xxForgedxx]

Originally Posted by Spec 1

/\ There is no way you could make a Mustang handle like a Bimmer with $3-4k. Suspension work is the first thing I do to any car I own, and $3-4k is easy to spend on just simple setup work. Springs, shocks, bushings, camber kits, and tuning will max out your budget. While your Stang won't handle like crap anymore it's still not up to par with a stock high-end 3 series. Also as far as getting a 335i to be as fast as a Stang GT, I think it would take about $5-7k.

Of course you didn't argue anything about interior, luxury, or driver feel. That's because it's not worth arguing, we already know the winner. Don't call the guy a fanboi because he's sticking up for an M3 being better than a Mustang GT. Everything is relative, yes, but most of the general population would agree with him and not you.


Edit: I haven't driven the new gen Stangs so I hold my final words. The concept posted on the 1st page looked pretty good. I'm considering buying Domestic soon, though a GM (Cadi) product, not Ford.

No one said anything about an Mustang GT being better than an M3. I simply stated that it will not take much to make a Mustang GT a better handling car.

I'd like you to quote where I said that, if you can't then oops looks like reading comprehension beat you with a stick.

Will a Mustang GT be a better handling car than a stock 3 Series in terms of lateral G, slalom speeds? With $3-4,000? and then some good rubber and wheels? FUCK yes it will, it may not have that plushyness for you panzies who can't handle a bump or two but we didn't say anything about that. Bottom line in this scenario is that it is easier to make the car handle better than it is for the BMW to be making more power. Besides some times it isn't about being the best at this or that because what the Mustang has is that V8 rumble, no 3 Series can match that exhaust note.

[TheAcAvenger]

Uhh... the Mustang? Have you SEEN the camaro?

And why on earth are we comparing Mustangs to M3s?
Yes, the M3 will he a hell of a lot slower than a Mustang with 7k+ invested.
Yes, the M3 will pretty much always outhandle a Mustang, regardless of what you do to it (provided that you're still attempting to drive it on the street)
Yes, the M3 is a lot better-built and has a much nicer interior. It's easier to live with on a daily basis.
Yes, the M3 is a lot more expensive.


That's why people buy Z's and S2000s.

[E92AXM]

I have to say i saw the new Camaro at the Miami auto show , and i was expecting so much more. In pictures it looks like a beast , but in real life looks rather plasticy.Everyone keeps saying how nice a 3 series interior is compared to a mustangs, but look at the price of the two cars then you'll understand. They both have there flaws. Besides i think the 2010 interior looks pretty good. Its the right style for a sports car. You don't spend 65k for a ZO6 and expect an Audi quality interior. You spend it on the motor. Ill put it out there right now a car that sounds bad ass, looks bad ass ,and feels bad ass beats out any Elegant and angelic interior.

[E92AXM]

And This Is Not What The 2010 Mustang Is Going To Look Like!

[xxForgedxx]

Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger

Uhh... the Mustang? Have you SEEN the camaro?

And why on earth are we comparing Mustangs to M3s?
Yes, the M3 will he a hell of a lot slower than a Mustang with 7k+ invested.
Yes, the M3 will pretty much always outhandle a Mustang, regardless of what you do to it (provided that you're still attempting to drive it on the street)
Yes, the M3 is a lot better-built and has a much nicer interior. It's easier to live with on a daily basis.
Yes, the M3 is a lot more expensive.


That's why people buy Z's and S2000s.

IM FUCKING NOT COMPARING MUSTANGS TO M3s

[xxForgedxx]

Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger

Uhh... the Mustang? Have you SEEN the camaro?

And why on earth are we comparing Mustangs to M3s?

Yes, the M3 will pretty much always outhandle a Mustang, regardless of what you do to it (provided that you're still attempting to drive it on the street)



That's why people buy Z's and S2000s.

And bullshit the M3 will out handle a Mustang regardless of what you do to it street driven or not.

[skierman64]

Well this thread has gotten stupid.

[FR305]

This thread...

[E92AXM]

Yeah your right every thread comparing a Bmw to enything else is off topic. It was initially to see what people though but hey threads tend to veer off the course a bit once in a while .

[FR305]

Originally Posted by SiNiStErE92

Yeah your right every thread comparing a Bmw to enything else is off topic. It was initially to see what people though but hey threads tend to veer off the course a bit once in a while .

its all good just couldn't resist