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No manual + 3800 lbs + AWD = 0 appeal to me

[KoenG]

I doubt there has ever been a better GT with such a broad range of abilities for less money.

[FreeDarko]

Originally Posted by Nikolai Roskov

Loved the review. 3800 lbs is a bit heavy and you can feel the front pulling when it needs to as well. The transmission's shifts are very smooth though and worth it although I'd love to try a manual. And in comparison, the 230i is a bit slow for my taste. Yes it's wonderful as a daily but the m240ix is worth every penny for me

Are you coming from an F82 m4?

If so how does it compare to it for spirited driving on the road? Turn in? Handling?

Did you notice the squirmy on center feel?

This is my only worry after driving a real M car for past 10 years.

However this car offers all the other benefits that I feel is more in line with where I am (age, location, family status) currently as a daily driver compared to getting another M car.

[Lightngsvt]

Originally Posted by Remonster

Another factor is drive modes, no Porsche has ever had variable steering weight or feedback levels.

What about Porsche's with the Power Steering Plus option?

[Luv2]

Originally Posted by N54B30A

I just don't get how the new m240 is like 200-300 lbs heavier than the f22 m240 x drive. Both have the same motor and trans and are both awd. Where did this weight come from?

Also it is quieter inside, compared to the F22. Maybe double insulated glass and sound deadening ??

[mechman]

I believe there is only a ~150lb difference between F22 xdrive with sunroof (~3650lb) vs G42 xdrive with sunroof which I dont think is that bad considering the G42 architecture is derived from the larger 3 series.

[Niko ZV]

Originally Posted by FreeDarko

Are you coming from an F82 m4?

If so how does it compare to it for spirited driving on the road? Turn in? Handling?

Did you notice the squirmy on center feel?

This is my only worry after driving a real M car for past 10 years.

However this car offers all the other benefits that I feel is more in line with where I am (age, location, family status) currently as a daily driver compared to getting another M car.

Originally Posted by FreeDarko

Are you coming from an F82 m4?

If so how does it compare to it for spirited driving on the road? Turn in? Handling?

Did you notice the squirmy on center feel?

This is my only worry after driving a real M car for past 10 years.

However this car offers all the other benefits that I feel is more in line with where I am (age, location, family status) currently as a daily driver compared to getting another M car.

Yes and the g42 is noticeably smaller, of course a bit more snug if that's your preference. Not used to the different seats and angle it's at but it's not bad. G42 larger than my e46, and the e46 is much more nimble and smaller. But more directly answering your question, I'm not really used to the front taking over when it needs to especially compared to the f8x platform. Rear wheel only are much more sport and fun to drive, and I miss driving a manual as well. You can feel the weight of a g42 when compared to my e46, but it's not noticeable in the sense of her being able to carry her own weight. Rather, in the sense that she'd be a monster if she would be lighter. The turning is more similar to I'd say a 997 with awd since the g42 is more on rails than my f8x kicking her tail when I press her. The g42 is a much easier car to handle in terms of the driver knowing that it won't let you go completely wild like a true M I suppose. And by the center feel, do you mean the intrusive safety package or that she kind of hesitates sometimes between lanes? If yes, I've noticed that too. The real M will be insane though I hope. The g42 is definitely a worthy platform, I'm glad for the m240ix with awd though. Perfect daily for me. The transmission is pretty good too with shifts, when compared to the only automatic bmw I've driven daily before this g42- the BMW X5 diesel from 10 years ago.

Lastly if it helps, all the reasons you have mentioned on getting this car was the same for me. As an older guy now, the passion for bmw is there but in a different way. I'll always love M but I wanted to hop into something smaller and more along the lines of my e46 m3. Bmw should make the g42 much lighter to be agile.

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by N54B30A

I just don't get how the new m240 is like 200-300 lbs heavier than the f22 m240 x drive. Both have the same motor and trans and are both awd. Where did this weight come from?

hybrid clar platform which also impacts rear cabin space

[CDN-Driver]

Originally Posted by mechman

I believe there is only a ~150lb difference between F22 xdrive with sunroof (~3650lb) vs G42 xdrive with sunroof which I dont think is that bad considering the G42 architecture is derived from the larger 3 series.

IMHO making a heavy car into a heavier car is no achievement :

[Vancouver_M440]

Originally Posted by jdub486

Nice review. I saw the new m240i in person yesterday and found the side profile very nice. The front and rear design schemes are disappointing.

I have an e90 335d, an m2 comp, and an x3 m40i. The e90 335 obviously has the best steering feedback by far and also the most natural return to center and sense of steering angle. The m2 offers incredible steering precision as does the x3 m40i, but both are very dead in terms of feel- especially the x3. I was floored when I recently drove a family members 2020 Audi q7 and it had far more steering feedback than my x3, albeit with less precision. The thickness of the BMW steering wheels is not doing any favors.

Steering feedback will be a priority in whatever replaces my m2. Likely a Lotus or Porsche.

Funny I remember when they reviewed the E90s they said how much worse the feel was back then compared to the older 3 series. LOL. Now it's the gold standard compared to modern ones. Hopefully it only gets better and they don't say the M240i was so much better in the future. Let's just enjoy it while we are still able to drive the car's and not be limited to autonomous cars.

[mechman]

Originally Posted by CDN-AWD

IMHO making a heavy car into a heavier car is no achievement :

Its definitely not an achievement but thats the downside of having a common architecture.

They save way more money as a company than having to develop a 2'er specific platform.

Moreover, the average person doesn't care about it and they probably constitute ~96% of the market.

[Ikester19]

Drove the M240i yesterday and it drives very similarly to my M340i albeit in a smaller package which feels more sporty. I found a couple of downsides one of which is the steering which again is very similar to the M340i. It feels 'synthetic' a with a slow rate of turn just off centre that speeds up with more lock, and it doesn't like to do a lot of its own self-centring on the way out of corners. Also, although there is feedback from road imperfections it feels disconnected. When you're pushing on at higher speeds is when the steering feels a lot better as it quickens up and feels reassuring. Secondly, the AWD system makes it a lot less fun to drive as any tendency of the vehicle to oversteer is nipped in the bud quite quickly. Nonetheless none of this would deter me from buying this car although I hope BMW release a RWD version as rumoured, if so I think that will be the one to get if climatic conditions allow as it does for us here in Aus.

[Lightngsvt]

The issue of the wheel not self-centering, could it be corrected or improved with different alignment settings like toe or caster?

[CDN-Driver]

Originally Posted by Lightngsvt

The issue of the wheel not self-centering, could it be corrected or improved with different alignment settings like toe or caster?

… maybe but should one pay this much for a car and then have to modify it to make the steering bearable?
I think not.

[estragos]

Pity that the rear seats are so cramped, I am 5.9 tall, and my head touches the roof, so impossible to put my son at the rear, he is 15 years old and is already 6.1 tall!
For daily it would be fine, but for summer holidays ( about 6000km on 3 weeks), it's just impossible.
I really wanted to buy this car, but unfortunately I can't!
Why BMW?🤨

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by mechman

Its definitely not an achievement but thats the downside of having a common architecture.

They save way more money as a company than having to develop a 2'er specific platform.

I guess you can look at it the other way round: it's either this (weight gain due to the common platform), or no RWD-platform 2er coupe at all (but a 1er/2erGC sibling), similar to what their competitors have been doing I think. BMW just can't afford to build a bespoke small coupe platform when they have to invest so much money in their BEV and Neue Klasse things, sad as it is.

[Lightngsvt]

Originally Posted by CDN-AWD

… maybe but should one pay this much for a car and then have to modify it to make the steering bearable?
I think not.

I completely agree with you, just throwing out an idea. I've heard this complaint on the other G-series cars as well, but seems to be more hit an miss on the M340.

Originally Posted by estragos

Pity that the rear seats are so cramped, I am 5.9 tall, and my head touches the roof, so impossible to put my son at the rear, he is 15 years old and is already 6.1 tall!
For daily it would be fine, but for summer holidays ( about 6000km on 3 weeks), it's just impossible.
I really wanted to buy this car, but unfortunately I can't!
Why BMW?🤨

Fortunately BMW still offers us the M340 and M440 on the same chassis. The M240 is new and unique, and exciting, but the other offerings are excellent options as well (just more money).

Originally Posted by mbanck

I guess you can look at it the other way round: it's either this (weight gain due to the common platform), or no RWD-platform 2er coupe at all (but a 1er/2erGC sibling), similar to what their competitors have been doing I think. BMW just can't afford to build a bespoke small coupe platform when they have to invest so much money in their BEV and Neue Klasse things, sad as it is.

Very well said! The current car and its compromises are so much better than not having a proper 2-series RWD coupe! Given the size of the 3 and 4 I'm sure BMW could've made the car roomier, but then what would really differentiate it from the 4? And then it would lean more towards a GT than leaning towards a sports car.

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by estragos

Pity that the rear seats are so cramped, I am 5.9 tall, and my head touches the roof, so impossible to put my son at the rear, he is 15 years old and is already 6.1 tall!
For daily it would be fine, but for summer holidays ( about 6000km on 3 weeks), it's just impossible.
I really wanted to buy this car, but unfortunately I can't!
Why BMW?🤨

two reasons in my opinion. 1 - hybrid clar plarform vs dedicared rwd and 2 - it would have impacted M4 sales considering the price

[jefe2000]

Originally Posted by estragos

Pity that the rear seats are so cramped, I am 5.9 tall, and my head touches the roof, so impossible to put my son at the rear, he is 15 years old and is already 6.1 tall!
For daily it would be fine, but for summer holidays ( about 6000km on 3 weeks), it's just impossible.
I really wanted to buy this car, but unfortunately I can't!
Why BMW?🤨

This is a main reason why I went with the F87 M2 rather than wait for the new M2. It's my daily and it's gotta fit my kids in the back.

[DougMcL]

Just for what it's worth one of the big UK magazines CAR has just done a giant test with the M240i up against the A45 and RS3. Despite being the cheapest the BMW wins hands down.

In their conclusion, they actually praise the steering. I was surprised, but maybe it is designed to suit the type of car that the M240i is trying to be.

[Jason60051]

It weighs way too much and the rear end looks frumpy

[EXE46]

Originally Posted by Ikester19

Drove the M240i yesterday and it drives very similarly to my M340i albeit in a smaller package which feels more sporty. I found a couple of downsides one of which is the steering which again is very similar to the M340i. It feels 'synthetic' a with a slow rate of turn just off centre that speeds up with more lock, and it doesn't like to do a lot of its own self-centring on the way out of corners. Also, although there is feedback from road imperfections it feels disconnected. When you're pushing on at higher speeds is when the steering feels a lot better as it quickens up and feels reassuring. Secondly, the AWD system makes it a lot less fun to drive as any tendency of the vehicle to oversteer is nipped in the bud quite quickly. Nonetheless none of this would deter me from buying this car although I hope BMW release a RWD version as rumoured, if so I think that will be the one to get if climatic conditions allow as it does for us here in Aus.

Thanks for this, as someone with an M340i RWD, I am contemplating this as a replacement but XI is a no-go for me. Would rather keep my M340i. The RWD G42 should be a fine car since I am hoping to see a weight reduction of about 150 lbs from my car.