[R N M]

Another Very positive review - I don’t get why ppl are comparing this to M2?! Its a M240i and should only be compared to the previous M240i with AWD and Auto.

The car looks great in this video, even the rear is acceptable although not attractive.

For $58k, there is no better daily coupe available with this performance.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by R N M

Another Very positive review - I don’t get why ppl are comparing this to M2?! Its a M240i and should only be compared to the previous M240i with AWD and Auto.

The car looks great in this video, even the rear is acceptable although not attractive.

For $58k, there is no better daily coupe available with this performance.

Yeah it’s a fast car but it’s intentionally not tuned like an M car. I’m surprised how much I like driving this car, it has some of the downgrades of newer cars like weight and isolation but to me as a whole it works here. The engine is superb and dominates the driving experience and the rest of the car is athletic enough not to interfere with the joy you get from the driveline. Similar to top of the line non M cars of old. As a street car that is, for track duty I’d still look towards a real M car.

[2045]

Originally Posted by solstice

Yeah it’s a fast car but it’s intentionally not tuned like an M car. I’m surprised how much I like driving this car, it has some of the downgrades of newer cars like weight and isolation but to me as a whole it works here. The engine is superb and dominates the driving experience and the rest of the car is athletic enough not to interfere with the joy you get from the driveline. Similar to top of the line non M cars of old. As a street car that is, for track duty I’d still look towards a real M car.

I think that's a very important point just the buyers need to know what they want and buy. If I'm in the market for a true M car I will obviously buy a M product, but I have no interest daily a M car. This car would be perfect for the task.

[gp_solo2]

Originally Posted by R N M

Another Very positive review - I don’t get why ppl are comparing this to M2?! Its a M240i and should only be compared to the previous M240i with AWD and Auto.

The car looks great in this video, even the rear is acceptable although not attractive.

For $58k, there is no better daily coupe available with this performance.

I understand your comment around comparing M240 vs M2 but I still think it is pertinent as I was cross shopping both before opting for the M240. I understand they were built for different purpose but being similarly priced it is nice to see how they compare.

Also next generation cars always being superior than the previous one my big question is…can the new M240 with M pro pack be as fast as the outgoing M2C on a track? I am still to see that track matchup.

For sure next M2 will be faster than both but the fact that only the M240 should come as an AWD it may complicate the choice between both for daily drivers in northern region like where I live.

[beamer-dreamer]

Originally Posted by gp_solo2

I understand your comment around comparing M240 vs M2 but I still think it is pertinent as I was cross shopping both before opting for the M240. I understand they were built for different purpose but being similarly priced it is nice to see how they compare.

Also next generation cars always being superior than the previous one my big question is…can the new M240 with M pro pack be as fast as the outgoing M2C on a track? I am still to see that track matchup.

For sure next M2 will be faster than both but the fact that only the M240 should come as an AWD it may complicate the choice between both for daily drivers in northern region like where I live.

Similarly priced? isn't it going to be roughly 25K difference? that's like comparing a 240i to a basic GTI (not even an R)

I think it makes sense that the 240i is designed as a performance focused daily driver, and more like a GT. and i fully expect the M2 to be a less forgiving track focused beast.. they are going to be significantly different cars

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by gp_solo2

I understand your comment around comparing M240 vs M2 but I still think it is pertinent as I was cross shopping both before opting for the M240. I understand they were built for different purpose but being similarly priced it is nice to see how they compare.

Also next generation cars always being superior than the previous one my big question is…can the new M240 with M pro pack be as fast as the outgoing M2C on a track? I am still to see that track matchup.

For sure next M2 will be faster than both but the fact that only the M240 should come as an AWD it may complicate the choice between both for daily drivers in northern region like where I live.

It's not that simple. M will be more durable/reliable and have much higher grip levels, better braking, cooling, xmsn, chassis etc. on track than the non-M. Drive each one 30-40 laps and non-m will be in pain. They are completely different vehicles. Get a proper tool for the job.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by Mavus

It's not that simple. M will be more durable/reliable and have much higher grip levels, better braking, cooling, xmsn, chassis etc. on track than the non-M. Drive each one 30-40 laps and non-m will be in pain. They are completely different vehicles. Get a proper tool for the job.

Well put.

[gp_solo2]

Originally Posted by beamer-dreamer

Similarly priced? isn't it going to be roughly 25K difference? that's like comparing a 240i to a basic GTI (not even an R)

I think it makes sense that the 240i is designed as a performance focused daily driver, and more like a GT. and i fully expect the M2 to be a less forgiving track focused beast.. they are going to be significantly different cars

I meant new M240 vs outgoing M2C not the new one which obviously won't compare in term of price and performance.

[gp_solo2]

Originally Posted by Mavus

It's not that simple. M will be more durable/reliable and have much higher grip levels, better braking, cooling, xmsn, chassis etc. on track than the non-M. Drive each one 30-40 laps and non-m will be in pain. They are completely different vehicles. Get a proper tool for the job.

Agreed but there are some use cases that falls in between like mine. Daily driver (4 seasons) that I will use for autocross and occasional high performance driving events. For similar price it wasn't an easy choice between G42 with M pro pack and an out going M2C

[solstice]

Originally Posted by gp_solo2

Agreed but there are some use cases that falls in between like mine. Daily driver (4 seasons) that I will use for autocross and occasional high performance driving events. For similar price it wasn't an easy choice between G42 with M pro pack and an out going M2C

There’s also the factor of a new car being, well new

I want my new car to not only be newly manufactured but also newly designed and equipped with up to date technology. Otherwise I could just keep my old car…

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by gp_solo2

I meant new M240 vs outgoing M2C not the new one which obviously won't compare in term of price and performance.

the same applies

3800 lbs on narrow tires, sub optimal brakes for track etc does not compre to m2c. 240 braking and entry speed will be horrid. m2c has motorport drivetrain.

take them on track at 100 deg and drive them over 2d and see how they perform.

start with brakes and tires first …

[gp_solo2]

Originally Posted by Mavus

the same applies

3800 lbs on narrow tires, sub optimal brakes for track etc does not compre to m2c. 240 braking and entry speed will be horrid. m2c has motorport drivetrain.

take them on track at 100 deg and drive them over 2d and see how they perform.

start with brakes and tires first …

Your observations are not considering the M pro package that I mentioned which consist in pretty much same tire size as the M2C (245 front, 255 rear vs 245 front, 265 rear) Pilot 4S, bigger cooling and breaks. The weight is more on the G42 but the chassis also evolved (more rigidity, etc) and have better traction due to AWD. I would not be surprise to see comparable time on some tracks and specially in autocross where you start from a stand still but only time will tell.

Again if my primary purpose would be to track my car and not being a daily I would have likely picked the M2C

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by gp_solo2

Your observations are not considering the M pro package that I mentioned which consist in pretty much same tire size as the M2C (245 front, 255 rear vs 245 front, 265 rear) Pilot 4S, bigger cooling and breaks. The weight is superior on the G42 but the chassis also evolved (more rigidity, etc) and have better traction due to AWD. I would not be surprise to see comparable time on some tracks and specially in autocross where you start from a stand still but only time will tell.

Again if my primary purpose would be to track my car and not being a daily I would have likely picked the M2C

how's weight superior on g42?

m2c's primary purpose is not track but to be a dual pupose car … track on Sun go to work on Mon. cs or gts is track animal with cage, belts, fire ext. etc

Miata will destroy you on autocross at 1/2 size but gl with your endevour, we all need to start somewhere and burn some cash to learn.

[gp_solo2]

Originally Posted by Mavus

how's weight superior on g42?

m2c's primary purpose is not track but to be a dual pupose car … track on Sun go to work on Mon. cs or gts is track animal with cage, belts, fire ext. etc

Miata will destroy you on autocross at 1/2 size but gl with your endevour, we all need to start somewhere and burn some cash to learn.

Sorry I meant more not superior (corrected it). I understand your point but I do see both as dual role cars where M2C is more track focus less good as a daily and M240 more good at being a daily less track focus. At the end it depends how much time you spend where and where you want to compromise.

By the way M240 and Miata do not run in the same class so useless comparison.

[Zyzzthetic]

Originally Posted by rjd_F30

I wish they'd make it with a manual, but this is still an insanely impressive performer for the price/class. Makes me excited for the next gen M2... this chassis with an S58, RWD and three pedals will be insane.

It will be fckn rowdy is the word mate

[stefan]

I have no need for an M2 but unless they put a manual option in the M240i I'm never buying one. It's a shame because the M240 is the right amount of performance for me and most people who are after a daily driver I would think.

[XC3LLR8]

M240i for the street, SS 1LE for the track.

Brake pad bedding for tomorrow's Chuckwalla track day...

[XC3LLR8]

@ 5:28 he says it has 245 rear tires and 235 front tires, which is wrong...unless this is the car that did the Lightning Lap with worn-out runflats and they replaced them with non-OEM sized tires.

But that wouldn't make sense either because this car has the ZTK package, which means it never came with runflats. Maybe he just read it wrong, or it got a fresh set of tires along the way and the notes he's reading from is what he saw on the car?

ZTK = 255 rear and 245 front.

[Ikester19]

Don't get why they compare the new M240i with the outgoing M2. Although they are similarly priced ATM, they are two completely different cars made for different purposes. The M2 is a track tool which is not a great daily, stiff AF suspension, Motorsport engine etc whereas the M240i is a more comfortable sports car that can be used every day.

[G42M240]

I look at this as a good excuse to update to the m performance brake kit!

[FLURP]

Originally Posted by yanks1

That color looks great in shade... more sleek, sunlight I don't like as much

I agree 100%. I placed my order with this color, and then changed it as soon as I saw one in person outside in bright sunlight.

[wspalding]

Originally Posted by R N M

Another Very positive review - I don’t get why ppl are comparing this to M2?! Its a M240i and should only be compared to the previous M240i with AWD and Auto.

The car looks great in this video, even the rear is acceptable although not attractive.

For $58k, there is no better daily coupe available with this performance.

I think it appropriate to compare to M2 with the context of comparing a daily driver that might have some days on the track versus a track car that will also do some duty as a daily driver. I longed for an M2 after I first purchased an F22, but I think based on reviews the G42 will serve my purposes perfectly and I appreciate better understanding what I’m gaining or losing in the trade-off.