[MJBO]

Classic BMW they have been doing this with iDrive for over a decade now.

I mean look at the G01 X3, it’s running a weird mismatch of iDrive 6 architecture with iDrive 7 shoehorned in. I have a 2020 X3 with the iDrive 7, but because it’s really an iDrive 6 car it misses out on some features.

It’s pretty funny though that they will have iDrive 7, 8 and 9 all on sale at once.

[JJacksonIII]

iDrive 8 users will now notice their batteries dying much quicker and will have no choice but to upgrade to the newest vehicles running iDrive 9

[s58]

Originally Posted by Connor22

Try to have the latest BMW OS challenge *IMPOSSIBLE*

[Ibiza]

This makes sense why BMW is not listed as a manufacturer to support the upcoming all-new Car Play to launch latter this year.

How secure of a platform is Android Auto, as I’m sure there will be a way to side-load apps on iDrive 9?

Will be interesting if future BMW’s with iDrive 9 will support Apple iOS digital key and wireless AppleCar play. I’m sure that a majority of BMW owners prefer Apple iOS over Google android.

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by JJacksonIII

iDrive 8 users will now notice their batteries dying much quicker and will have no choice but to upgrade to the newest vehicles running iDrive 9

That’s why long live ICE. How secure is Android auto, as I can picture remote hacking in the future.

[The-Traveler]

Everyone wants to be like the cool kid on the block, and be called a technology company. 😋#elonmuskisaloser

[TargaM2]

🥱😴 this is still a car forum right ?...I’ve not logged onto ‘pc nerds’ forum by mistake have I ?.

[Cadillac]

Originally Posted by The-Traveler

Everyone wants to be like the cool kid on the block, and be called a technology company. 😋#elonmuskisaloser

If I wanted all this crap, I would go and sit in front of my laptop or iPad.
I am glad I have a normal BMW M2 Comp with a normal set of controls...does the cell, climate, the music and tells me the revs/speed etc.
The rest of the time I am driving...this is beyond overboard...but then I guess I am old!!

[ThesaVeliona]

Game that’s BMW for you. Why else you think G42 went to iD8 in litreal second? 😂

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

This makes sense why BMW is not listed as a manufacturer to support the upcoming all-new Car Play to launch latter this year.

How secure of a platform is Android Auto, as I’m sure there will be a way to side-load apps on iDrive 9?

Will be interesting if future BMW’s with iDrive 9 will support Apple iOS digital key and wireless AppleCar play. I’m sure that a majority of BMW owners prefer Apple iOS over Google android.

I’m no developer but Android Automotive =/= Android Auto so I doubt that this will be possible. Android Automotive is likely a better platform to develop on for BMW, and depending on what the future is with infotainment system, developers as well. But with that said, I’m sure it’ll still be locked down in typical car OEM fashion, highly doubt it’s going to be a free for all like how we think of Android phones.

Also, Apple (CarPlay, Digital Key) can run on top of Android Automotive - I think many are confusing Android Auto with Android Automotive.

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by LogicalApex

lol BMW seriously?

So the 5-Series launching on a brand new platform will get iDrive 8.5, but the X1 will get iDrive 9? lol what a joke.

Then they show iDrive 8.5 is a dead end on arrival as they are ditching their own platform for Android Auto.

They really are struggling hard with the shift toward more technological features.

Stephan Durach, BMW Senior Vice President of Connected Company Development and Digital Experiences, explained this to the media at CES that BMW prefers to release the next-generation software in smaller vehicles rather than more expensive models. Why future G60 gets iDrive 8.5.

https://carbuzz.com/news/the-next-bm...n-the-5-series

[Entropy89]

It looks cool but I’ll stick with idrive 7 for as long as I can. I wish the live cockpit screen and hud were more configurable but other than that I really like id7 and its relative simplicity.

I also have no interest in carplay taking over the gauge cluster in future apple plans (not saying BMW would allow apple to do that, but its something apple is moving towards with carplay).

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

Stephan Durach, BMW Senior Vice President of Connected Company Development and Digital Experiences, explained this to the media at CES that BMW prefers to release the next-generation software in smaller vehicles rather than more expensive models. Why future G60 gets iDrive 8.5.

https://carbuzz.com/news/the-next-bm...n-the-5-series

I can't fault the strategy. Not saying there is an issue with the EQS, but the amount of problems I have witnessed with the car in general whether it's cabin-related or battery-related, I would be extremely pissed off to drive a car for a week only to land and stay in the shop because either MB doesn't have parts or MB failed to properly train and equip service departments with the proper tools to diagnose and fix cars.

If something were to fail, I don't want it anywhere near my flagship or higher-priced models until everything has gone through adequate/real-world testing.

[adc]

Wait, isn’t Android core based on Linux anyway?

Anyway, this should get our minds off the slippery path of entertainment system updates, and focused on the mainstay of the brand: the thrill of driving.

Long live whatever system I have in my 2018 M3. Classic gauges, great handling, enough power to scare both passengers and Porsches on track.

[Tejas1836]

Android OS. My god what are they thinking, very insecure OS.
No CarPlay, no BMW for me, screw that.

[kjx]

I was expecting an admission of mea culpa for the horrible iDrive 8 dash integration.

I do hope Porsche goes for Apple's equivalent instead of what BMW's done in picking Android. I can see the end of the road of my relationship with BMW.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by kjx

I was expecting an admission of mea culpa for the horrible iDrive 8 dash integration.

I do hope Porsche goes for Apple's equivalent instead of what BMW's done in picking Android. I can see the end of the road of my relationship with BMW.

LOL why? If I had a Porsche, I wouldn't want CarPlay UI anywhere near the instrument cluster. The infotainment would be the only place I would want these systems to be.

[Dr.Deep]

Car manufacturers and software:

- Ok, this is now the way to go for us
- Hmm…no let’s try this way, but this time we stick to it
- Well almost, let’s move to another platform again, maybe we gonna do better

Everything within 1 year

They change strategies like underwear

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by Connor22

Lol me with my 2022 M240i which only had ID7 for one model year.

And thank god for that.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by Dr.Deep

Car manufacturers and software:

- Ok, this is now the way to go for us
- Hmm…no let’s try this way, but this time we stick to it
- Well almost, let’s move to another platform again, maybe we gonna do better

Everything within 1 year

They change strategies like underwear

You can contribute the constant changes to Tesla. Whether you like it or not, they pretty much opened the floodgates too all of this digitalization in cars.

Mercedes is in the same boat. They announced MBUX in 2018 claiming it will be the best thing replacing the very outdated COMAND system and now they're moving away from MBUX to MB.OS - using Android Automotive.

I believe Audi is also moving towards Android Automotive for their next-generation OS as well.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by Game

How's the X1 going to get iD9 in two months when it just released with iD8 a month ago?

Production cycle and things coming out the oven... X1 is the brake point ..

[LogicalApex]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

Stephan Durach, BMW Senior Vice President of Connected Company Development and Digital Experiences, explained this to the media at CES that BMW prefers to release the next-generation software in smaller vehicles rather than more expensive models. Why future G60 gets iDrive 8.5.

https://carbuzz.com/news/the-next-bm...n-the-5-series

That response from Stephan makes BMW look even worse…

They have so little confidence in their ability to deliver technological features that they are debuting technology on lower priced vehicles to make them guinea pigs? They didn’t pay enough for stability or quality to they can be beat up on…

They need to stop what they are doing and seriously figure out how to build a “platform” that they can deploy across their lineup and support for a number of years. That way they can focus on delivering value for those vehicles over time with stuff like Remote Software Updates and new features to compete with Tesla and the like in this arena.

People really hoped they’d do that with iDrive 7 since it had RSU support. Then iDrive 8 comes quickly after and “better RSU support” only to be killed off before it makes it to any serious number of cars.

Meanwhile MB is doing a great job making MBUX a platform they can support across their lineup for years.

People don’t want to hop into a BMW and feel like every time they get into it they need to re-learn iDrive. They also don’t want to feel like they need to buy a new car to get low hanging fruit new features while the competition is pushing stuff out regularly. And even more importantly they don’t want to feel like the brand considers them not worthy of a quality product because they purchased a “low end” vehicle.

BMW is looking lost and confused.