[sleeves007]

This seems to be a universal problem. Mine has been in various stages of wetness since November, the week after I took delivery. Dry days don't make a difference although we are getting average 43 degrees F here, Scotland, UK. The drivers side has started this water issue now.

[Winrya]

This is the problem with forums, I’m now waiting for my head lights to start letting water in and for a noise to start on the rear suspension 😬

[M240SLC]

Originally Posted by Winrya

This is the problem with forums, I’m now waiting for my head lights to start letting water in and for a noise to start on the rear suspension ��

Instead of curbing your enthusiasm, we're trying to curb your disappointment if it happens. lol

[sleeves007]

Other than this issue, it's the best car I have owned. It's basically a lci G20 wearing sports gear.

[advr6]

Picking up a used 2022 with ~7,500 kms that has the issue as well on the passenger side. Apparently, a replacement part (under warranty) will take a month to get to the dealer.

Is anyone on their 3rd headlight yet as I'm not sure if it's a design defect or a quality control issue?

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by Winrya

This is the problem with forums, I’m now waiting for my head lights to start letting water in and for a noise to start on the rear suspension 😬

[g42bmw]

Originally Posted by advr6

Picking up a used 2022 with ~7,500 kms that has the issue as well on the passenger side. Apparently, a replacement part (under warranty) will take a month to get to the dealer.

Is anyone on their 3rd headlight yet as I'm not sure if it's a design defect or a quality control issue?

Never had this issues with all my new BMWs in the past. Looks like a quality control issue. Mine's lot looking great right now. Going to take it in and see how long is the wait.

[Hapbob]

I don’t like this.
Water in headlamp assembly seems to be a problem and a future problem with corrosion electronics etc..
Hap

[G42UPRA]

Honestly, I'm starting to hope that the supposed "production hold" results in this and the rear thump issue getting resolved before mine goes into production.

Thanks for being guinea pigs guys!

[Winrya]

Originally Posted by FlyDrive

I've had this on my M240i too. Water appeared inside the headlights the other day after washing the car. It's the first time I've seen this happen since taking delivery in September and covering 8,000km in all weather. It dried out/drained within 24 hours though.

Of the cars where it has dried out, did it leave any water staining on the inside of the light?

[Nicolas05]

Originally Posted by Winrya

Of the cars where it has dried out, did it leave any water staining on the inside of the light?

Mine has still water inside... But a friend has his one dried up and yes, you can see the droplet stains inside, once dried.
His are getting replaced under warranty.
I brought my car in at my dealer to look at the issue, and mine will probably also be replaced as soon as they get a go from warranty.

[Winrya]

Problem with replacement is they’ll usually inflict other damage in the process. Assume bumper has to come off, so potential scuffs and they’ll likely not align the headlights correctly afterwards. I’ve no experience of bmw service (apart from poor paintwork prep upon delivery) but audi couldn’t fix one problem without causing another

[vito_java]

I’ve got condensation on my 23’ 230i as well. Scheduled an appointment with dealership in a week

[Evilmoretea]

Got the issue here too after one week and 800 miles. Will see if it drains. And yes that’s mostly inside the lens, I was surprised at the amount of water inside.

[Evilmoretea]

Update from the UK.

My dealership is saying there’s nothing wrong with it and are being hesitant to even run it up the chain to BMW to confirm there’s a fault.

They’re trying to convince me it’s normal.

Despite the drivers guide saying otherwise.

[pbw]

Originally Posted by Evilmoretea

Update from the UK.

My dealership is saying there’s nothing wrong with it and are being hesitant to even run it up the chain to BMW to confirm there’s a fault.

They’re trying to convince me it’s normal.

Despite the drivers guide saying otherwise.

That’s a poor response. I wouldn’t be happy with that amount of water. Long term effect could mess with headlight / drl too. Especially as other cars are bone dry.

[Joepep529]

Does corporate BMW know about this problem, they should and start working on this serious problem, to have such a great car and having this problem can make people sick and give a lot of stress... hopefully they figure out permanent fix, I'm waiting on my 240 to be built I pray I will not have to deal with this nonsense...BMW get to work and fix this shit already, I feel for all of you going through this problem

[Bertie74]

This looks to be a long standing issue on BMWs across the range, as it comes up in forums for other models too. I have an i4 which has headlight condensation on one side at the minute.

After two visits the dealer has agreed to replace both headlight units on my M240, but I'm not convinced it'll be a permanent fix.

[Invisiblename]

Have done 1400 miles in the UK with varying weather: cold, freezing, humid, rain, and so far (touch wood) inside of headlights are showing no sign of moisture

[Evilmoretea]

So my stance on this is that condensation “mist” as per the quote below from the driver’s guide is normal. And this will disappear after some time when the glass heats up. We are all experiencing water droplets which the guide highlights as a cause for concern and instructs you to get it checked at your dealer. My dealer is using their own discretion and basically saying we “checked” the headlights per the guide and there’s nothing wrong.

They also tried to blame me for driving through a puddle, but forgive me for thinking a brand new car could handle a little weather.

I’m my particular case the car is only 1 week old as per UK consumer law if there is a fault under 30 days then I’m entitled to a refund and this is the route I want to go down considering their level of service and attitude about the problem. They’re denying there is a fault but are suggesting they replace the headlight out of goodwill which to me sounds scammy AF… to me the act of replacing the headlight, goodwill or no goodwill, is acknowledging something is wrong. They just don’t want to give me a refund.


My reasons for believing that there is an issue is 3 fold.

1: The drivers guide indicates that my level of water droplets is an issue and I am not experiencing the “mist” they describe.

2: The issue is only present in the passenger side light and not the drivers side or the taillights, you’d sort of expect them to all react the same with the same level of condensation if there wasn’t a fault. Why, in the exact same humidity and temperature would one headlight show droplets and condensation when another shows nothing?

3: I’ve attached a picture of a white car in the dealer parking lot with the quote condensation “mist” which is completely normal and this appears uniformly across both headlight sides of multiple cars in their parking lot. No signs of droplets.

Compared with my headlight which has obvious droplets.


“During cool or humid weather, the headlight glass can mist over on the inside. When driving with the lights switched on, the condensation disappears after a short time. There is no need to replace the headlight glass.
If moisture increases, for example if there are water droplets in the lamp despite the headlights being switched on, have the headlights checked.”

[Evilmoretea]

Originally Posted by PNTDG42

Isn’t this from condensation? I don’t think it’s liquid-state water intrusion during rain storm or washing, is it? If this is due to condensation; would it not just happen again when exposed to the same sequence of environmental conditions? Regardless if they replaced it or not?

My dealer actually tried to say it’s intrusion from driving through a puddle and it’s my fault.

[PNTDG42]

Originally Posted by Evilmoretea

My dealer actually tried to say it’s intrusion from driving through a puddle and it’s my fault.

I’d guess they have as much idea as anyone else why it happens (none). I’m starting to think it’s just a matter of headlight shape and ventilation in it’s design. I’ve been in communities plagued with this, and others that never have it. Replacements are never a fix where I’ve seen it done before… they just get a new headlight that has no condensation until next time it forms.

In a Harley group I am in, there is a problem with the instrument cluster doing this. Some dealers swap them, some tell you to deal with it. 5 years of production in, and new ones still do it and so do replacements. The only fix the community found was to add their own ventilation with a few strategically placed holes drilled in the back.