[danallxt]

Originally Posted by Pentland

Yes, I was thinking unless you actually run over something or are over zealous on a speed bump, does much stuff get flicked up under the car that could damage the cooler? Agree the wheels could catch something but this cooler is in front of the wheels.

Most frontal damage I would imagine is caused by stones from vehicles in front? And keep in mind, your main radiator / windscreen is right in the firing line for that sort of stuff!

I agree, except for the speed bump, it would have to be a speed bump that is higher than your front air dam, regardless it would not matter how fast your ran the speed bump since the unit is in front of the front wheel. Note: i did take out an oil pan (different vehicle) by running a really wide speed bump too fast.

But i would pose this question...for those that do have that option, has anyone here (first hand knowledge only) damaged that cooler...if so what was the situation?

[Saturns]

I would like to see a more northern car that has been running for the past year and see how those fins look after a few 10,000's of miles.
maybe with the flow of air underneath the car and the front splitter lower than the rad fins it could be fine.

Mine isn't ZTK.
Just plastic cover.

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by danallxt

I agree, except for the speed bump, it would have to be a speed bump that is higher than your front air dam, regardless it would not matter how fast your ran the speed bump since the unit is in front of the front wheel. Note: i did take out an oil pan (different vehicle) by running a really wide speed bump too fast.

But i would pose this question...for those that do have that option, has anyone here (first hand knowledge only) damaged that cooler...if so what was the situation?

Speed bumps here can be two (sometimes more) smaller separate humps rather than one long one across the road.

You tend to straddle them to avoid bumping but the height of them can be unpredictable and many have lost a splitter on them.
You can also bump over humps and scrape the bottom of your car on the down side.

Agree - your last question is the one to answer

[desertspotter]

anyone can confirm if European cars with ZTK/M Technology package (or the equivalent name in each country and language) has also this radiator exposed?.

[Winrya]

Originally Posted by desertspotter

anyone can confirm if European cars with ZTK/M Technology package (or the equivalent name in each country and language) has also this radiator exposed?.

Excuse the dark shot but no, my uk car doesn’t have an exposed cooler. I have the pro pack (tyre/wheel/black package) and also the m sport cooling package so have the larger brakes and calipers. There were no more boxes to tick in the uk. Maybe it’s because it’s never warm here 😂

[desertspotter]

Thank you!, I was looking at some parts catalogs and for European car the cooler doesn't show up in the schematic and neither the lines and thermostat in the oil filter housing.

Also I saw before some videos (one from Germany, the other one from Spain) where they got the car in the lift and didn't look like there was a radiator the from the few frames that focus in that area, just the cover as your car

So we only have the oil to water heat exchanger and the only cooling difference from standard spec and M technology pack is the extra coolant radiator, 100% sure that this is due emissions. At least if someone is willing to intensively track his car it doesn't look a complicated retrofit

[Pentland]

In the UK, the Pro Pack is no longer an option.
Black shadow line is now standard on the M240i.

M Technology Pack (note: this is very different from the Technology Pack) is £300 and described as follows:
“With the M Technology Pack the increased heat capacity of the braking and cooling systems guarantee a long-lasting high performance under extreme driving conditions (similar to motorsport) (especially in conjunction with high outside temperatures). Includes upgrades for the drive train cooling system and the M Sport brakes.”

You must have wider 19" 893 M Double-spoke, Bi-colour alloy wheel option selected (which brings the Michelin tyres) - presumably to accommodate the larger brakes. You can have the wheels as an option without the M Technology Pack for £1250.

If you guys can hang on to March 1st, I’ll tell you if I have the extra radiator ;-)

[Winrya]

Originally Posted by Pentland

In the UK, the Pro Pack is no longer an option.
Black shadow line is now standard on the M240i.

M Technology Pack (note: this is very different from the Technology Pack) is £300 and described as follows:
“With the M Technology Pack the increased heat capacity of the braking and cooling systems guarantee a long-lasting high performance under extreme driving conditions (similar to motorsport) (especially in conjunction with high outside temperatures). Includes upgrades for the drive train cooling system and the M Sport brakes.”

You must have wider 19" 893 M Double-spoke, Bi-colour alloy wheel option selected (which brings the Michelin tyres) - presumably to accommodate the larger brakes. You can have the wheels as an option without the M Technology Pack for £1250.

If you guys can hang on to March 1st, I’ll tell you if I have the extra radiator ;-)

Just to clarify I have the £300 m technology pack. It was a bit up in the air when I ordered in April as it said improved cooling but didn’t define what that was. I added it as it was only £300 and hoped it had bigger brakes. I was over the moon when it arrived with 3 other pro pack cars without the m technology packs as even though it doesn’t sound much bigger, the calipers in particular looked massive in comparison

[desertspotter]

the photo and info from Winrya match with the last part catalog I have. but as G42 info is not complete in it I had the doubt if oil cooler is a miss or the info is acurate.


M240ix 11/21 US
oil filter housing with the thermostat and line connector (part 5) and oil cooler in radiator section



M240ix 11/21 EU
part 5 not listed as compatible for oil filter housing and oil cooler missing in radiator section

[Winrya]

Originally Posted by desertspotter

the photo and info from Winrya match with the last part catalog I have. but as G42 info is not complete in it I had the doubt if oil cooler is a miss or the info is acurate.


M240ix 11/21 US
oil filter housing with the thermostat and line connector (part 5) and oil cooler in radiator section



M240ix 11/21 EU
part 5 not listed as compatible for oil filter housing and oil cooler missing in radiator section

Autoid also have the upgraded cooling package and you can see in one of their videos of the underside there is no oil cooler

Edit: also their insta vid https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfTom...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by Winrya

Autoid also have the upgraded cooling package and you can see in one of their videos of the underside there is no oil cooler

They also have a German VIN

[desertspotter]

Originally Posted by Winrya

Autoid also have the upgraded cooling package and you can see in one of their videos of the underside there is no oil cooler

Edit: also their insta vid https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfTom...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Cristal clear for me right now, my only doubt was because part catalog is incomplete for G42 at the moment in the app I use, but your pic and autoid video confirms that we don't have the oil cooler

Originally Posted by XC3LLR8

They also have a German VIN

we were discussing about vin in other post a few weeks ago. European cars has WBA VIN even if they where built in SLP.

[Jack@AUTOID]

Originally Posted by desertspotter

Cristal clear for me right now, my only doubt was because part catalog is incomplete for G42 at the moment in the app I use, but your pic and autoid video confirms that we don't have the oil cooler



we were discussing about vin in other post a few weeks ago. European cars has WBA VIN even if they where built in SLP.

We have the ZTK track pack (with the addition oil cooler visible in the left air vent on the front bumper). We do have the skid pan.

Unless EU have different spec? With less heat capacity overall?

[desertspotter]

Originally Posted by Jack@AUTOID

We have the ZTK track pack (with the addition oil cooler visible in the left air vent on the front bumper). We do have the skid pan.

Unless EU have different spec? With less heat capacity overall?

EU cars have the additional cooler behind left vent (non M technology package only have it in the right vent), That why CO2 emissions in M Technology package is a little bit higher.

But, are you sure that it's an oil cooler and not just an extra radiator for the main coolant system?. I don't have the complete diagram for this part, but the limited info I have it' looks like bot sides are connected to the main coolant system.

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by desertspotter

EU cars have the additional cooler behind left vent (non M technology package only have it in the right vent), That why CO2 emissions in M Technology package is a little bit higher.

But, are you sure that it's an oil cooler and not just an extra radiator for the main coolant system?. I don't have the complete diagram for this part, but the limited info I have it' looks like bot sides are connected to the main coolant system.

Up until recently when people were claiming it's an additional oil cooler under the car, I thought it was a transmission cooler as the BMW Genius told me when I was ordering that the ZTK came with an additional transmission cooler and larger fan for the radiator.

[tahoeacr]

What are your oil temps running with the ZKT package? Mine run 226-228(non-ZKT). Easy driving not broke in yet. Pretty high considering there is snow everywhere. Must be the design range BMW wants it to run.

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by tahoeacr

What are your oil temps running with the ZKT package? Mine run 226-228(non-ZKT). Easy driving not broke in yet. Pretty high considering there is snow everywhere. Must be the design range BMW wants it to run.

If I had to pick an average for city driving I'd say around 223F. When I really saw it drop was driving across NM at 110-120 mph on desolate backroads. Then it dropped to high 190's to very low 200's. I prefer to see temps above 212F to make sure any condensation gets burned off. Quality synthetic oil won't even raise an eyebrow at 230F.

[desertspotter]

Originally Posted by XC3LLR8

Up until recently when people were claiming it's an additional oil cooler under the car, I thought it was a transmission cooler as the BMW Genius told me when I was ordering that the ZTK came with an additional transmission cooler and larger fan for the radiator.

transmision cooler is standard for all G42, even 220i and 230i.

[bimmabum]

Originally Posted by TJZ67201

Yup, just checked and I definitely do not have the additional oil cooler on my non-ZTK spec.

From what I can tell, there seems to be no difference in oil capacity (in regards to draining and refilling) whether or not the package is spec’ed.

Is this confirmed? ZTK with the EXTRA oil cooler does not result in extra oil capacity? And is there significant performance/temp differences to warranty getting this spec'd?