[DC2RtoCT9Atof87]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

Had several Honda’s top of the line. All my Honda’s were loaded to the teeth and top of the line. Ordered special custom made Brembo disc brakes at Brembo and issue persist. Rotors too little to hapdle the weight and stress on the car.
No, no warping. None of my Honda’s past 30k when sold them due to the same issue. I am one of the 1% of the people that maintain the cars to a level that very very few go. And no, no warping, car is left to cool of when washing, not to mention car was brand new. Sold it at 10k km on board when Brembo did not achieve the desired results. Better, yet, still shit due to brakes.

Chassis are very soft, frame is soft, metal sheets are soft. Ask any body shop that does frame adjustment. The BMW is the stiffer frame you can work on. Japanese are butter.

Road chassis strenght nowhere close to a bimmer. Nowhere.

LOL had a CTR for a month and is nowhere near close to any BMW. I will pick a 128i over a CTR. Anytime of the day. Better experience, better chassis, better handling.

F1 means nothing in the regular Joe car. Is a marketing thing.

Liked Honda, was good and reliable, yet, not at the level I want in any aspects. From materials to overall experience, BMW is a true driver’s car. I don’t even know why they compare them anyway. They are totally different vehicles.

Don’t know what to tell you. You sound like a fanboy which is fine. Your post is loaded with bias and your thoughts on the CTR are definitely in the minority.

I’ve tracked my EM1 and DC2R stock pads/aftermarket pads and stock rotors without issue. Albeit, I’m no pro and wasn’t racing.

To the people who say Honda can’t be/beat BMW, the aims of both companies are different. However, both are capable of producing a great performance cars.

[marksandygill]

The term 'drivers car' is such pretentious nonsense, it's like people calling themselves 'foodies' because they think they know about food!😂
You can probably have more fun in a Fiesta ST for half the cost of a Type R, would I buy either over an M2 if money was no object, not a chance!
Oddly the new Type R keeps the ugliness of the old one and manages to make it bland as well...🤦

[DC2RtoCT9Atof87]

Originally Posted by marksandygill

The term 'drivers car' is such pretentious nonsense, it's like people calling themselves 'foodies' because they think they know about food!😂
You can probably have more fun in a Fiesta ST for half the cost of a Type R, would I buy either over an M2 if money was no object, not a chance!
Oddly the new Type R keeps the ugliness of the old one and manages to make it bland as well...🤦

P car drivers would like to have a word with you.

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by marksandygill

The term 'drivers car' is such pretentious nonsense, it's like people calling themselves 'foodies' because they think they know about food!😂
You can probably have more fun in a Fiesta ST for half the cost of a Type R, would I buy either over an M2 if money was no object, not a chance!
Oddly the new Type R keeps the ugliness of the old one and manages to make it bland as well...🤦

No Fiesta ST for us over here. I agree on the Civic looks.

There’s also this; https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MuCOZryZg-s

[Remonster]

Originally Posted by NSX2M4

One's less ugly and has more power with a proper RWD: BMW

I did not think this opinion was possible, the M2 is the uglier one in this case. I have no need for another car but the Civic Type R is to nice looking that I’m almost sad I have no reason to own one. That front end is incredible.

[e90335e36m3]

Originally Posted by Remonster

I did not think this opinion was possible, the M2 is the uglier one in this case. I have no need for another car but the Civic Type R is to nice looking that I’m almost sad I have no reason to own one. That front end is incredible.

You can just see from the tenor of the discussion the M2 was not the winner. It’s the most mediocre M product of recent memory. Lost to the Supra, barely beat a 718 without SC2, lost to Civic. M2 owners are pulling at straws here to make their buying decision a good one. I’ll refrain on commenting on its looks.
It is manual though which is a win.

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

You can just see from the tenor of the discussion the M2 was not the winner. It’s the most mediocre M product of recent memory. Lost to the Supra, barely beat a 718 without SC2, lost to Civic. M2 owners are pulling at straws here to make their buying decision a good one. I’ll refrain on commenting on its looks.
It is manual though which is a win.

Do you mind expanding on your experience of driving the G87?

[e90335e36m3]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

Do you mind expanding on your experience of driving the G87?

I was never in the market for one. Saw how it looks, no thanks. Seeing how it keeps coming up short in reviews, just reinforces the mediocre looks.

[AlpineBoost]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

You can just see from the tenor of the discussion the M2 was not the winner. It’s the most mediocre M product of recent memory. Lost to the Supra, barely beat a 718 without SC2, lost to Civic. M2 owners are pulling at straws here to make their buying decision a good one. I’ll refrain on commenting on its looks.
It is manual though which is a win.

I'm not a G87 owner nor a BMW fanboy (6 Japanese, 1 BMW out of 10 cars owned) as I actually don't like most of their cars, but this is a hilarious take to me:

Lost to the Supra - Not sure what you're referring to but I'm guessing a couple YT vids. Wait for other official lap times. If you're talking about drag racing then here's C&D's results for both cars:

G87 6MT - 12.2 @ 118 mph
Supra 6MT - 12.4 @ 114 mph

G87 auto - 11.7 @ 122 mph
'21 Supra - 12.1 @ 117 mph

barely beat a 718 without SC2 - Tires or not, pretty impressive considering the 718 4.0 starts at $33,000 more than the M2.

lost to Civic - Because this guy thinks so


Seems it's everyone else pulling at straws to make this car out to not be as good as it is. Pretty weird.


2023 BMW M2 First Test: We Knew It Would Be Good … But *This* Good?
Even this base model outperforms all previous M2 variants, including the M2 Competition and CS.
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...t-test-review/

2023 BMW M2 Adopts a Potent Formula
BMW's redesigned 453-hp M2 coupe incorporates ingredients from the larger M4 to become a more effective performance drug.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-bmw-m2-drive/

2023 BMW M2 Track Test: M’s Greatest Car Gets Even Better
The M2 proves its worth on Homestead-Miami’s heat-battered tarmac
https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews...m2-track-test/

2023 BMW M2 Is Once Again Better Than the M4
The M2 is mostly M4 underneath, but it’s way better than its larger sibling.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews...w-m2-review-1/

BMW M2 2023 review
The M2 is reborn as a short-wheelbase, rear-drive-only, compact version of the M3/M4. On first impressions, it’s a cracker
https://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/m2/204894/bmw-m2-2023-review

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by AlpineBoost

I'm not a G87 owner nor a BMW fanboy (6 Japanese, 1 BMW out of 10 cars owned) as I actually don't like most of their cars, but this is a hilarious take to me:

Lost to the Supra - Not sure what you're referring to but I'm guessing a couple YT vids. Wait for other official lap times. If you're talking about drag racing then here's C&D's results for both cars:

G87 6MT - 12.2 @ 118 mph
Supra 6MT - 12.4 @ 114 mph

G87 auto - 11.7 @ 122 mph
'21 Supra - 12.1 @ 117 mph

barely beat a 718 without SC2 - Tires or not, pretty impressive considering the 718 4.0 starts at $33,000 more than the M2.

lost to Civic - Because this guy thinks so


Seems it's everyone else pulling at straws to make this car out to not be as good as it is. Pretty weird.


2023 BMW M2 First Test: We Knew It Would Be Good … But *This* Good?
Even this base model outperforms all previous M2 variants, including the M2 Competition and CS.
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...t-test-review/

2023 BMW M2 Adopts a Potent Formula
BMW's redesigned 453-hp M2 coupe incorporates ingredients from the larger M4 to become a more effective performance drug.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-bmw-m2-drive/

2023 BMW M2 Track Test: M’s Greatest Car Gets Even Better
The M2 proves its worth on Homestead-Miami’s heat-battered tarmac
https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews...m2-track-test/

2023 BMW M2 Is Once Again Better Than the M4
[I]The M2 is mostly M4 [...]

Ha, you said just about everything I wasn’t going to waste my time saying. Appreciate your effort!

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

I was never in the market for one. Saw how it looks, no thanks. Seeing how it keeps coming up short in reviews, just reinforces the mediocre looks.

Yeah, I know you didn’t.

[e90335e36m3]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

Yeah, I know you didn’t.

Good thing we have to drive or buy cars that don’t appeal to us, without seeing reviews of those cars…for the privilege of expressing our opinions on those cars.

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

Good thing we have to drive or buy cars that don’t appeal to us, without seeing reviews of those cars…for the privilege of expressing our opinions on those cars.

In English please?

[e90335e36m3]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

In English please?

I don’t need to drive a car in order to determine that it’s mediocre. The performance reviews and photos of that car are sufficient.

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

I don’t need to drive a car in order to determine that it’s mediocre. The performance reviews and photos of that car are sufficient.

You have a strange definition of Mediocre. I haven’t come across one piece of Journalism from any reputable source that calls the car mediocre.

But looking through your post history I see the pattern.

Thanks for stopping by and sharing.

[MT6]

Originally Posted by AlpineBoost

I'm not a G87 owner nor a BMW fanboy (6 Japanese, 1 BMW out of 10 cars owned) as I actually don't like most of their cars, but this is a hilarious take to me:

Lost to the Supra - Not sure what you're referring to but I'm guessing a couple YT vids. Wait for other official lap times. If you're talking about drag racing then here's C&D's results for both cars:

G87 6MT - 12.2 @ 118 mph
Supra 6MT - 12.4 @ 114 mph

G87 auto - 11.7 @ 122 mph
'21 Supra - 12.1 @ 117 mph

barely beat a 718 without SC2 - Tires or not, pretty impressive considering the 718 4.0 starts at $33,000 more than the M2.

lost to Civic - Because this guy thinks so


Seems it's everyone else pulling at straws to make this car out to not be as good as it is. Pretty weird.


2023 BMW M2 First Test: We Knew It Would Be Good … But *This* Good?
Even this base model outperforms all previous M2 variants, including the M2 Competition and CS.
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...t-test-review/

2023 BMW M2 Adopts a Potent Formula
BMW's redesigned 453-hp M2 coupe incorporates ingredients from the larger M4 to become a more effective performance drug.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-bmw-m2-drive/

2023 BMW M2 Track Test: M’s Greatest Car Gets Even Better
The M2 proves its worth on Homestead-Miami’s heat-battered tarmac
https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews...m2-track-test/

2023 BMW M2 Is Once Again Better Than the M4
[I]The M2 is mostly M4 [...]

Good Research G87 M2 Manual Transmission is an awesome car with excellent reviews.

M2 looks are nice maybe JDM inspired … the boxes in front and rear bumpers plus the rear wing as an accessory is FK8 CTR complimenting.

[NSX2M4]

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by NSX2M4

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I searched for like 10 minutes for a meme that would compliment this thread but abandoned. Yours isn't bad at all

[NSX2M4]

Originally Posted by Remonster

I did not think this opinion was possible, the M2 is the uglier one in this case. I have no need for another car but the Civic Type R is to nice looking that I’m almost sad I have no reason to own one. That front end is incredible.

Are you for real? It's a F'ing 4 door hatchback...
Please refer to prior post. NO!!! Monica....

[TheFactor]

Great comparison and Review! 👍🏻👊🏻

[chrisk03]

Originally Posted by TheFactor

Great comparison and Review! 👍🏻👊🏻

The video is a bit boring, but agreed...not sure why some are getting butt hurt or thinking these 2 vehicles wouldn't be compared or aren't in the same/similar universe. I think there's pros/cons to both, but they both seem to be darn good vehicles, esp if daily driving. Choose whichever makes you happy and enjoy it...can't go wrong with either, IMHO.

[TheFactor]

Originally Posted by chrisk03

The video is a bit boring, but agreed...not sure why some are getting butt hurt or thinking these 2 vehicles wouldn't be compared or aren't in the same/similar universe. I think there's pros/cons to both, but they both seem to be darn good vehicles, esp if daily driving. Choose whichever makes you happy and enjoy it...can't go wrong with either, IMHO.

Agreed on all accounts 👍🏻👊🏻