[Squidget]

Originally Posted by wj100

I'm a little worried the G87 will feel bloated too compared to the Supra, but I guess time will tell...

I mean, it absolutely will. Supra is a 2 seater with a lot less practicality and driveability, but in return you get a smaller, tighter car.

If you don't care about all the things the Supra is bad at, and don't want the things the M cars are good at, then the Supra is the better pick. Obvious, right?

The Quadrifoglio is a great car, but also kind of out of the G87's class. It's about $20K more expensive. So sure, if that's in your budget, and the reliability (or lack of MT) isn't a dealbreaker, it's a good pick.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by truekumar

Interesting....I am actually considering the Gulia QV against the M2

The options I have lined up are:

G87 M2
Porsche 992
Gulia QV (Facelift MY24)

The Porsche is my dream car and although my wife is on 5'1 and myself only 5'8, I dont think we can make it work with out two kids in the back for too long (currently aged 11 & 7, average height boys).

So it is now down to the Gulia QV or the G87 M2

I am coming from a G20 M340i and just want something sportier looking and driveability, something a little more special for weekend drives with the family.

Your boys are going to outgrow the back seat of an M2 in about 10 minutes...

Get the Guiia QV with its 4 doors.

Weekend drives sure have come up a notch since I was a kid. My first memory of weekend drives was in a new 1960 Ford Station Wagon.

[ourlee]

Originally Posted by Skooba1231

This! Lol

Sadly I’m leaning 718 again (used)

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by ourlee

Sadly I’m leaning 718 again (used)

I tried that boat thinking I wasn't going to get an M2 as quickly as I did. $80-90k for a 2019~ LCI Cayman S is insanely overpriced for small 4 cylinder sports car. Best of luck.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Why won’t kids fit in the back of the M2 in your opinion? What happened to your family when you carried them in your M2? Did they complain?

The G87 has noticeably less headroom in the backseat compared to the F87. I know because I sat in the backseat of a G87.

[frostyrwd]

How about car seat room? How does that compare?

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by frostyrwd

How about car seat room? How does that compare?

Should be a bit more, about 50mm more knee room with the seat in the same position as in the F22/87. About 25mm less headroom, but at 1.75m / 5'9" tall I can sit in the back with my head just reaching the headliner with the carbon roof (no sun roof intrusion).

[npirnia]

Originally Posted by RockCrusher

Your boys are going to outgrow the back seat of an M2 in about 10 minutes...

Perhaps, but probably not for a couple years. My daughter is about to turn 14 and is 5’6”, she fits comfortably in the back of the M2. She does complain about the lack of a door and a window to roll down, but is otherwise comfortable.

Girls hit their growth spurt much earlier than boys and she is almost done growing at 14. Most boys will slowly increase in height and then rapidly change in the 14-16 age range.

I think the M2 can comfortably accommodate someone in the rear seat until their height is above 5’7” or 5’8”. I’m 5’11” and can fit well enough for short trips (contorting a little bit), much like sitting in the back of my friends E92 335i back in 2009ish. I wouldn’t use it as a primary “family car”, but you can put a family in it for weekend drives and such.

I think the M2 will feel more special than a 4 door Guilia, but that comes at the expense of some practicality. I wouldn’t use the M2 as a primary family car, but you certainly can put a youngish family in it for a weekend away or weekend drive.

-Nick

[kimchee411]

Originally Posted by truekumar

... something a little more special for weekend drives with the family.

Unless you're just spending a ton of time on the road with 2+2 in the car on weekends, get the 911. It's your dream car and there is no substitute, certainly not the M2. By the time your boys outgrow the back seats, you will probably be spending less time with them and not hauling both of them around everywhere.

[ourlee]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

I tried that boat thinking I wasn't going to get an M2 as quickly as I did. $80-90k for a 2019~ LCI Cayman S is insanely overpriced for small 4 cylinder sports car. Best of luck.

Yeah I’m looking sub 80 CPO and small 3000lbs is a big plus to me

[playswcars]

People forget, but initially, the Giulia Q could be had with a manual. I don't understand why they dropped it, BMW managed to keep theirs in the F80 and now the G80.

VIERsr great writeup, I need to hit up Dielsdorf for a test drive.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Why won’t kids fit in the back of the M2 in your opinion? What happened to your family when you carried them in your M2? Did they complain?

Kids grow like weeds. They'll fit until one day they won't.

Besides the fit there's the stigma -- for the want of a better word -- about riding in the back seat especially a two door.

They'll get in the back seat with no argument then like a switch being flipped they won't. 'course, when I was a kid if I had refused to get in the back seat there would have been no argument. Dad (or Mom) would have driven off and I would have had to walk.

The other problem is carrying passengers in the back seat of a 2 door is the passenger and sometimes even the driver has to get out to let the back seat passengers out.

I don't have kids. I have carried adults in the back seat of some of my 2 door cars but not on a regular basis.

My 90+ year old Dad managed to get in the back seat of my Porsche 996 Turbo so Mom could have the front seat. But he only got in the back seat a few times. And the trip was just a few minutes long.

I really like my M2. But if I had to carry passengers, even kids, on a regular basis in the back seats I'd have a 2nd car (or SUV) with 4 doors.

[eddj]

Originally Posted by truekumar

Interesting....I am actually considering the Gulia QV against the M2

The options I have lined up are:

G87 M2
Porsche 992
Gulia QV (Facelift MY24)

The Porsche is my dream car and although my wife is on 5'1 and myself only 5'8, I dont think we can make it work with out two kids in the back for too long (currently aged 11 & 7, average height boys).

So it is now down to the Gulia QV or the G87 M2

I am coming from a G20 M340i and just want something sportier looking and driveability, something a little more special for weekend drives with the family.

without a doubt take the Giulia QV if you can afford it without stretching your budget

[VIERsr]

Originally Posted by playswcars

People forget, but initially, the Giulia Q could be had with a manual. I don't understand why they dropped it, BMW managed to keep theirs in the F80 and now the G80.

VIERsr great writeup, I need to hit up Dielsdorf for a test drive.

Yes, only the very first cars (2016-2017) and not in the US.

[mtoosexy]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

Hahaha, is that true? I would risk getting my feet cut off to own that car in a manual. I grew up honing my Manual skills on a Spider and Milano. Damn those cars could handle, plus got me more than a few dates.

yes, from what i remember. They didnt want to put in the time and research to pass the american crash tests... much cheaper to ship it over here with the one transmission option.
It would have been one of my forever cars!@! had it come with the stick.

[mtoosexy]

Originally Posted by playswcars

People forget, but initially, the Giulia Q could be had with a manual. I don't understand why they dropped it, BMW managed to keep theirs in the F80 and now the G80.

VIERsr great writeup, I need to hit up Dielsdorf for a test drive.

Dude, dont tease me!!! That was my dream car for a summer... until they broke the autoamtic news :*( it was my screen saver, I had it up on the office tv for anyone interested in talking about it.

[mtoosexy]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

I tried that boat thinking I wasn't going to get an M2 as quickly as I did. $80-90k for a 2019~ LCI Cayman S is insanely overpriced for small 4 cylinder sports car. Best of luck.

ya, u lost me at cayman s.... i wouldnt suggest paying more than 60k for that.
imo, gt4 or bust, gt4 or 911. Save your pennies for another few months.

[VIERsr]

I considered the 981 GT4 before the M2, but gave up after a few weeks on the market because of the poor offer and the compromises one has to make for a used car.
The 718 GT4 was on another price level and virtually impossible to get new.

[VIERsr]

I updated the first post with updates after a month of ownership.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by VIERsr

I updated the first post with updates after a month of ownership.

It would be a pity if you got rid of it due to the intrusive driver aids that have to be switched off on every re-start. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anything beyond 2022 in the EU & EEA from a manufacturer that produces over 1000 cars that hasn't got the same issue.

Luckily in Canada the aids can all be switched off and stay off.

[VIERsr]

Originally Posted by aerobod

It would be a pity if you got rid of it due to the intrusive driver aids that have to be switched off on every re-start. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anything beyond 2022 in the EU & EEA from a manufacturer that produces over 1000 cars that hasn't got the same issue.

Luckily in Canada the aids can all be switched off and stay off.

Besides that, to make the car as I would like it to be, I would have to spend thousands of bucks, be illegal and lose the warranty.
And I am still not sure I would be 100% satisfied.

[Squidget]

I think your last paragraph is the most telling one. Since you don't need an all-rounder, you are outside of the M2's target audience. It is what it is.

And yeah, I'm glad I'm in the US where I don't have to deal with ANY of that mandatory nannie crap, or that hideous license plate holder.